QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 21 2012, 02:38 PM)
i often wonder if the judges are intoxicated during fights. there needs to be sobriety and vision tests given to judges prior to them scoring bouts. i believe it takes a certain level of intelligence and the ability to focus to score a fight. i don't believe most judges have the attention span or understanding necessary to score bouts. i believe that everyone is influenced by jim, larry and manny during the bouts, whether they choose to acknowledge it or not. that includes fans watching...and those sitting ringside. i can't tell u how many times i talk to fans and hear them reiterate some bullshit larry merchant spewed during a fight. i know what it is i am seeing. i don't need a talking head to spin it for me.
there are several factors that go into scoring bouts. clean punching, effective aggressiveness, defense, ring generalship...
most times...judges will score for the aggressor. i don't always agree with that...especially when the aggressor misses a lot of punches. in the case of this bout though, both guys missed plenty of punches. cotto was putting intelligent pressure on floyd and cutting the ring off effectively which ended with floyd on the ropes for the majority of the fight. both had plenty of partially blocked shots...and both landed clean ones. most of cotto's clean shots were to the body but u can't deny that he hit mayweather cleanly to the head more than any of mayweathers previous opponents. floyd landed some good head shots...but his right was partially blocked most times. his left uppercut was the one that started to land towards the end of the bout. the commentary gave cotto very little credit for anything he did. the judges and "incompetent-box" also seemed to do the same. there is no way i can justify only giving cotto two rounds. you are giving him very little credit. i would suggest turning down the volume and score with ur eyes...not ur ears or heart. i gave cotto 5 rounds. it's pointless now...but i should have done a thread where i score it round by round with explanations. it seems to be the norm where ppl just accept injustice. i'm not saying cotto won...but he clearly didn't get the scores he deserved. incompetent scoring is what's bad for the sport and turns fans away. this was not the biggest crime in the sport. bouts like cloud/campillo and lara/williams put this one to shame. watching the bout live...i scored it 8-4 for floyd. watching it a second time i scored it 7-5 for floyd.
Yeah judges dont clearly score rounds, and all of that "scoring blood" and "effective aggression" is a bunch of bullshit too. They were giving Manny rounds in his last fight for "effective aggression", but there were several rounds where he couldn't maintain that aggression because he was getting turned and countered. He was so busy trying to prove to the ref that he was headbutted (when his cut occurred), rather than fighting back.
Lederman's card are right just as often as Im right when Im in a drunken argument...hardly ever. As for Cotto winning 5 rounds, I can respectfully agree to disagree. If anything, he won 3 rounds, but to say 4 or 5 is a stretch...he just did better than most expected...which is why I feel he knocked Floyd down a peg.
The fact that Miguel was upset after the fight was a bit baffling...hopefully he was upset about the scores, because he surely cant think that he won that fight. He gave the first few rounds away, and the fact that Floyd was throwing combinations THAT early in a fight is very telling.
I agree with the body shots, but again, it's hard to look good against this guy. You can look good against Manny (as several have proven), but they aren't going to give it to you on the cards for obvious reasons. If you hit Mayweather with a punch that doesn't fold him or snap his head back (which most people's eyes are trained to see since he defends well), then 9 out of 10, they'll chalk it up as your punch being "deflected".
Im not for injustice by any stretch of the imagination, but this is boxing, so there's nothing we can do about it. Hell, Salido was beating the dog shit out of Lopez in the rematch and was about to get robbed if he didn't score the KO. If Cotto knew in his heart that he didn't get the scores that he deserved, then fine...but to walk away pouting as if you won the fight, is plain crazy.