QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 19 2012, 11:15 AM)
Check, I'm tracking and conceded its usage as both dangerous and dubious. However, my only point is it isn't "performance enhancing" and one of WADA's initial reasons for for banning it, was due to potentially fatal risk should it be abused. However, like you have mentioned, it's used as a masking agent, further solidifying WADA's stance against it.
Now, if anyone thinks that's why BOXING, is banning it, you're crazy. Boxing is of the belief, diuretics enable guys to unfairly make weight, not so much the "PED" advantage. I mean, after all, boxing doesn't believe there is a "steroid or PED problem", right? LMBO!!!!
QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Jun 19 2012, 12:56 PM)
Diuretics are absolutely Performance Enhancing Drugs.
Using these drugs, you're unnaturally cutting weight, which allows you to compete in lower weight divisions against smaller guys.
Ergo, you're taller, have more reach, more punch resilience (you're fucking 3 weight classes higher during the fight) and greater power.
It may not be "directly" enhancing your performance, like HGH or EPO does, but it most certainly allows for tacit and unfair advantages in a fight.
Then why have weight classes to begin with, if the miracle of modern day drugs allows light heavyweights to cut to middleweight ?
It's also a huge problem in MMA.
Anderson Silva fights at 185 lbs., but is known to walk around at AT LEAST 220 lbs.
You tell me how a 37 year old man cuts damn near 40 pounds during training camp naturally, at an age when it's increasingly difficult to lose weight.
Easy. It's not possible NATURALLY.
Wow, good stuff guys! I cant help but to agree with both of your points. As Noles mentioned, boxing has this delusional and negligent grip on PEDs, and feels that "everyone behaves themselves" because they're professionals. This is the hurt business and guys know that they'll be forgotten about (or twice forgotten) if they lose a big (crossover or crossroads) fight...depending on their level of popularity coming into the fight.
It's also a known fact that this is a gladiator's sport, so appearing as if you cant compete in your own division (or higher), spells "fucked", and often pushes guys out of the picture. If you can cut weight and compete with (or bully) fighters and get paid to do it, then there's no need to fight at a reasonable weight and look shitty or get exposed for being such.
I dont really see the severity of them labeling it a PED, but if it masks it, then it's just as bad, I would suppose. It dilutes your urine, and since that's the only useless ass test that they perform, then it can indeed be looked at as something significantly illegal.