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checkleft
Just saw the report on boxingscene.

Is he headed toward mayweather promotions?
mrchitown
I wouldn't be surprised if he signs with Mayweather promotions. He trains there and has been seen there alot even when he was still under contract wit TR. I do know he needs to fight ASAP. Inactivity kills and he aint been in the ring in quite some time
checkleft
I definitely agree with that, he needs to get a fight fast on a good network and showcase what top rank just lost.. and now he has a chance to get more lucrative deals and maybe fights as well.
Franchize
I think he'll end up fighting under Haymon. It's a win/win. He can still be cool with Floyd but he gets to be under a big time promoter. I wouldnt be surprised if Mayweather Promotions dissolves after losing Vargas' departure and focuses strictly on Floyd. Lattimore disappointed a lot of ppl, myself included.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 22 2012, 10:14 AM) *
I think he'll end up fighting under Haymon. It's a win/win. He can still be cool with Floyd but he gets to be under a big time promoter. I wouldnt be surprised if Mayweather Promotions dissolves after losing Vargas' departure and focuses strictly on Floyd. Lattimore disappointed a lot of ppl, myself included.

Haymon is a manager, so Yuri still needs a high profile promoter. Im not sure if you meant that he'll be under Mayweather promotions with Haymon as his manager. Anyhow, Im not sure Vargas made Floyd all that much money anyway, but he is Mexcian, so it's still a bit of a loss on Floyd's part.

Yuri, on the other hand, is Cuban. That has A LOT to do with why Bob didn't try to stick it to him when he wanted out of his contract. If you think about it, Cuban fighters (Lara, Rigondeaux, Gamboa) are great fighters, but there isn't a huge market here for them.

That was the main reason Arum kept the Gamoba/Lopez fight from happening, because Lopez had a HUGE fan base in PR, but didn't sell many tickets here in the U.S. Gamboa on the other hand, had no fan base here in the U.S., and Arum would dare hold a fight in Cuba...nobody in their right mind would. Lol

With all of this said, it looks to be yet another win for Arum. Gamboa can look as good as he wants in the ring, but nobody (other than the boxing community) has been making a big fuss about him. Arum has ANOTHER Mexican under his belt, that he can make a star one day...and we ALL know that it's easier for a Mexican fighter be star, rather than a Cuban fighter.

If Floyd and Ellerbe don't make big moves fast, then you're right, Mayweather Promotions just may dissolve, or end up taking the back seat to another upcoming promotional company...or worse, end up becoming another promotional company with a fighter's name on it. It's bad enough that they dont have a license to promote, but to lose a bunch of fighters add insult to injury.

boxingloner
Congratulations to Gamboa for leaving a situation he wasnt confortable in. Good for him for doing that. More boxers need to stand up for themselves and have a say in there careers. Just hopefully now he will get somewhere where he can make a real name for himself. But please dont put Al Hayman as your manager. I am sick and tired of seeing Haymans lacky Sam Watson and his stupid ass sons in the backround trying to get camera time. That really bugs, dumb idiots.

By the way, just think about this. Arum got Gamboa a shot Bam Bam Rios. A fighter that commanded attention, reguardless if you like him or not. That was a fight that I thought Gamboa had a very very good chance of winning. Now seeing how Rios really lost that fight and how weak he is at lighweight, just imagine if Gamboa ended up fighting him and winning that fght. Which he would have. Gamboa would be huge and in a position he always wanted to be in right now and looking to make the kind of money that he thinks he derserves. I thought he got bad advise for not taking the fight, but to each his own. Because being that he is Cuban he really dont have a following over here in the states.

Hopefully he gets with someone that gets him the big fights and the fights that matter, because IMO being that he is a foreign born and dont speak english he cant have anymore soft touche if he wants to draw in the american crowds. He needs to fight other killers and fights the will be big. He cant do the Andre Berto way of fighting softies or the Floyd way so to speak. He needs the Rios' or the Broner's or the Donaire's of the boxing world from here on out if he wants to make good money because otherswise nobody will care about his fights besides the very few diehards.
bnoles4life
Regardless of the promoter, showcasing Gamboa in a fight, ANYWHERE but the greater MIA area (Seminole, Hollywood, etc.), would be criminal.
Franchize
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 22 2012, 10:57 AM) *
Haymon is a manager, so Yuri still needs a high profile promoter. Im not sure if you meant that he'll be under Mayweather promotions with Haymon as his manager. Anyhow, Im not sure Vargas made Floyd all that much money anyway, but he is Mexcian, so it's still a bit of a loss on Floyd's part.

Yuri, on the other hand, is Cuban. That has A LOT to do with why Bob didn't try to stick it to him when he wanted out of his contract. If you think about it, Cuban fighters (Lara, Rigondeaux, Gamboa) are great fighters, but there isn't a huge market here for them.

That was the main reason Arum kept the Gamoba/Lopez fight from happening, because Lopez had a HUGE fan base in PR, but didn't sell many tickets here in the U.S. Gamboa on the other hand, had no fan base here in the U.S., and Arum would dare hold a fight in Cuba...nobody in their right mind would. Lol

With all of this said, it looks to be yet another win for Arum. Gamboa can look as good as he wants in the ring, but nobody (other than the boxing community) has been making a big fuss about him. Arum has ANOTHER Mexican under his belt, that he can make a star one day...and we ALL know that it's easier for a Mexican fighter be star, rather than a Cuban fighter.

If Floyd and Ellerbe don't make big moves fast, then you're right, Mayweather Promotions just may dissolve, or end up taking the back seat to another upcoming promotional company...or worse, end up becoming another promotional company with a fighter's name on it. It's bad enough that they dont have a license to promote, but to lose a bunch of fighters add insult to injury.


I think he'll work under Haymon as his manager but not under Mayweather Promotions. Sorry for the way I phrased that.
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 22 2012, 01:33 AM) *
I definitely agree with that, he needs to get a fight fast on a good network and showcase what top rank just lost.. and now he has a chance to get more lucrative deals and maybe fights as well.


Indeed he does, he's a talented fighter who is letting a considerable amount of time go by without being in the ring. He needs to get in the ring and refresh the boxing community's minds on why he's been touted as a good fighter.

I also can't wait to see who he signs with because I was just looking on twitter and the guys from max boxing says 50 cent was somehow involved in all this. Tr is definitely getting some kind of financial windfall as well according to them. If Mayweather signs him that would be a good look for him. Dirrell is another guy whose being rumored to sign with Mayweather. Looks like Floyd might be signing inactivity all the way around lol. I hope he does sign both of them and put them in the ring ASAP, I like both fighters and want to see them take that next step in their careers
duwdu
QUOTE (boxingloner @ Jun 22 2012, 12:55 PM) *
Congratulations to Gamboa for leaving a situation he wasnt confortable in. Good for him for doing that. More boxers need to stand up for themselves and have a say in there careers. Just hopefully now he will get somewhere where he can make a real name for himself. But please dont put Al Hayman as your manager. I am sick and tired of seeing Haymans lacky Sam Watson and his stupid ass sons in the backround trying to get camera time. That really bugs, dumb idiots.

By the way, just think about this. Arum got Gamboa a shot Bam Bam Rios. A fighter that commanded attention, reguardless if you like him or not. That was a fight that I thought Gamboa had a very very good chance of winning. Now seeing how Rios really lost that fight and how weak he is at lighweight, just imagine if Gamboa ended up fighting him and winning that fght. Which he would have. Gamboa would be huge and in a position he always wanted to be in right now and looking to make the kind of money that he thinks he derserves. I thought he got bad advise for not taking the fight, but to each his own. Because being that he is Cuban he really dont have a following over here in the states.

Hopefully he gets with someone that gets him the big fights and the fights that matter, because IMO being that he is a foreign born and dont speak english he cant have anymore soft touche if he wants to draw in the american crowds. He needs to fight other killers and fights the will be big. He cant do the Andre Berto way of fighting softies or the Floyd way so to speak. He needs the Rios' or the Broner's or the Donaire's of the boxing world from here on out if he wants to make good money because otherswise nobody will care about his fights besides the very few diehards.


The way I see it, if Gamboa had defeated Rios and made it big as a result, then Bob Arum would have never let him go subsequently and in peace anyways. So either way, Gamboa was screwed as a puppet with Bob, as Gamboa wouldn't necessarily be making a shitload of money under Bob. This is because, as far as one can see in recent memory, Arum only makes real money with, and for, Mexican fighters (you implied that much as well,) not counting Pacquiao, that is. Otherwise, how could a sane promoter defiantly go ahead to make so much insane money on and for Margarito after the loaded gloves scandal? For me, it was one of the reasons I've never watched Pacquiao-Margarito.

I think Gamboa, at this stage in his career, is better off fighting for/under GBP. Who knows... may be that was the scenario or bombshell Oscar promised to disclose a couple of months ago, only for him to subsequently develop cold feet?

P34c3


Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 22 2012, 03:06 PM) *
I think he'll work under Haymon as his manager but not under Mayweather Promotions. Sorry for the way I phrased that.

It's cool, if anything, it brought me to the point of wondering what any other promotional company has in store for Yuri at this point. Being the fact that Arum couldn't do much with him anyway.

If a big time promoter like Arum found it hard to make Gamboa a star, then I dont know what in the hell he's going to do with Rigondeaux. Lol. He sure as hell aint gonna get Donaire. Anyhow, Im wondering who Gamboa would be matched with to somehow cross him over into some pool of success (so to speak). He's the type of fighter that needs a promoter, though he has ring appeal, he doesn't speak English and really doesn't have that star personality...the nice guy role doesn't work for many.

Im wondering how many people have left Arum and became stars with another company. Hmmm. To my knowledge, as of late, they either got too damn old (Morales) or they left and got their own thing started (OLDH, FMJ, Cotto).

QUOTE (duwdu @ Jun 22 2012, 03:41 PM) *
The way I see it, if Gamboa had defeated Rios and made it big as a result, then Bob Arum would have never let him go subsequently and in peace anyways. So either way, Gamboa was screwed as a puppet with Bob, as Gamboa wouldn't necessarily be making a shitload of money under Bob. This is because, as far as one can see in recent memory, Arum only makes real money with, and for, Mexican fighters (you implied that much as well,) not counting Pacquiao, that is. Otherwise, how could a sane promoter defiantly go ahead to make so much insane money on and for Margarito after the loaded gloves scandal? For me, it was one of the reasons I've never watched Pacquiao-Margarito.

I think Gamboa, at this stage in his career, is better off fighting for/under GBP. Who knows... may be that was the scenario or bombshell Oscar promised to disclose a couple of months ago, only for him to subsequently develop cold feet?

P34c3

Totally agree! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 22 2012, 12:43 AM) *
Just saw the report on boxingscene.

Is he headed toward mayweather promotions?

Good for him. Free at last, free at last!!!!
Slumpage
GAMBOA!

I'm glad he got out of that Top Rank deal. Interested to see where he ends up. Considering Vargas' move, I'm thinking he's signing/signed with Mayweather Promotions. Some kinda cash + fighter deal to get Yuri outta that Top Skank contract.

Now i just wanna see him back in the ring asap and challenging all the top guys around his weight class... If Haymon can get a guy like Berto HBO coverage etc, I'm sure his expertise will be utilized in an "adviser" capacity in the re-marketing of Gamboa as one of the "elite". So long as it doesn't entail a procession of tomato cans, I'll consider this a good move for Yuri..
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Jun 22 2012, 07:08 PM) *
GAMBOA!

I'm glad he got out of that Top Rank deal. Interested to see where he ends up. Considering Vargas' move, I'm thinking he's signing/signed with Mayweather Promotions. Some kinda cash + fighter deal to get Yuri outta that Top Skank contract.

Now i just wanna see him back in the ring asap and challenging all the top guys around his weight class... If Haymon can get a guy like Berto HBO coverage etc, I'm sure his expertise will be utilized in an "adviser" capacity in the re-marketing of Gamboa as one of the "elite". So long as it doesn't entail a procession of tomato cans, I'll consider this a good move for Yuri..

If Gamboa's escape from the plantation was because of the cash + fighter deal, then that might explain the Jessie Vargas move.

I'm a massive fan of Gamboa's. Like you, I'm looking forward to seeing him back in the ring.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Jun 22 2012, 07:08 PM) *
GAMBOA!

I'm glad he got out of that Top Rank deal. Interested to see where he ends up. Considering Vargas' move, I'm thinking he's signing/signed with Mayweather Promotions. Some kinda cash + fighter deal to get Yuri outta that Top Skank contract.

Now i just wanna see him back in the ring asap and challenging all the top guys around his weight class... If Haymon can get a guy like Berto HBO coverage etc, I'm sure his expertise will be utilized in an "adviser" capacity in the re-marketing of Gamboa as one of the "elite". So long as it doesn't entail a procession of tomato cans, I'll consider this a good move for Yuri..

Whats up Slump! I knew it wouldn't be long before you dropped in on this Gamboa news.

You're right, he does need to get back in the ring asap, he's not getting any younger. I cant come off the top of my head with a viable opponent for him at the moment, since the featherweight division isn't ringing any bells in my head at the moment. Some how, some way, the Gods need to find a way to get Chris John's ass in the states to fight.

I think a Broner fight is waaaay too soon for Yuri, but more so waaay too soon for the fans. Yuri could come back at 130 and have a few noteworthy fight, because its obvious that Broner wont be at 130 for long...so they can meet at 135. So I guess our imaginations can run wild about some possible 130 lb matchups for Yuri.
Slumpage
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Jun 22 2012, 09:59 PM) *
If Gamboa's escape from the plantation was because of the cash + fighter deal, then that might explain the Jessie Vargas move.

I'm a massive fan of Gamboa's. Like you, I'm looking forward to seeing him back in the ring.


Yeah, just read on here that Vargas' contract with Floyd had already expired, so his move to Top Rank may not be connected with Gamboa's release at all. However I reckon it prob helped in easing the Bobster's grasp on Yuri, knowing he was getting a decent undefeated Mexican fighter from the same guys who he considered at least involved with f'ing up his whole Gamboa vs Rios fight/windfall.

I'm not a big Vargas fan, but I do think he's a solid fighter who can get better and become an attraction. His fight with Josesito Lopez which he won was good scrap and fun to watch. Good luck to him...

Now I just wanna see how far Yuri can go in the potentially short time he may have. Dude is already 30, 31 at the end of this year. He needs to get it popping real quick...
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Jun 23 2012, 12:50 PM) *
Yeah, just read on here that Vargas' contract with Floyd had already expired, so his move to Top Rank may not be connected with Gamboa's release at all. However I reckon it prob helped in easing the Bobster's grasp on Yuri, knowing he was getting a decent undefeated Mexican fighter from the same guys who he considered at least involved with f'ing up his whole Gamboa vs Rios fight/windfall.

I'm not a big Vargas fan, but I do think he's a solid fighter who can get better and become an attraction. His fight with Josesito Lopez which he won was good scrap and fun to watch. Good luck to him...

Now I just wanna see how far Yuri can go in the potentially short time he may have. Dude is already 30, 31 at the end of this year. He needs to get it popping real quick...

Probably at least four to five years of top notch performing from Gamboa. I can't imagine that the promoters aren't circling like sharks and that he'll be in the ring soon.

Re. Vargas, let's see who TR puts him in the ring with and what he does.
Slumpage
Personally, I think he might be better off going with GBP... That way he should get decent dates and opposition.
Franchize
If he signs with MP, that would be the ultimate touche' lol
Cshel86
Anybody see any potential Gamboa opponents at 130, in the event that he doesn't return as a featherweight? I'm looking for hardcore fan responses and fights that actually makes sense...dont wanna hear Broner or Donaire's name. rolleyes_anim.gif
Franchize
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 25 2012, 08:06 PM) *
Anybody see any potential Gamboa opponents at 130, in the event that he doesn't return as a featherweight? I'm looking for hardcore fan responses and fights that actually makes sense...dont wanna hear Broner or Donaire's name. rolleyes_anim.gif

no2.gif Diego Magdaleno?
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 25 2012, 09:03 PM) *
no2.gif Diego Magdaleno?

Not bad for a comeback/tune-up fight. Hell if it happens on Showtime (which Magdaleno fought on recently), it could be an upset. Lol
Slumpage
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 25 2012, 08:06 PM) *
Not bad for a comeback/tune-up fight. Hell if it happens on Showtime (which Magdaleno fought on recently), it could be an upset. Lol


See now that's a fight I could see GBP making, they don't seem to mind putting in their "stars" in with live opposition. Obviously we get the odd tomato can, but by an large they do alright. If Yuri got that fight and did a number on Magdaleno (obviously i think he would, cool.gif ) that'd be a good entrance to the 130 division... Maybe Roman Martinez? think he's got a fight coming up tho..

So umm, any further news, cos it's been hard for this Gamboa fan dammit! Nearly a year an this dude aint fought yet, I know its due to the evil Bobfather etc.... Still, this dude got me waiting like he's Mayweather or some shit. Why every bandwagon I jump on gotta be on a long ting, it's just like queues at the supermarket, always pick the slowest moving one...
Cshel86
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Jun 26 2012, 07:43 PM) *
See now that's a fight I could see GBP making, they don't seem to mind putting in their "stars" in with live opposition. Obviously we get the odd tomato can, but by an large they do alright. If Yuri got that fight and did a number on Magdaleno (obviously i think he would, cool.gif ) that'd be a good entrance to the 130 division... Maybe Roman Martinez? think he's got a fight coming up tho..

So umm, any further news, cos it's been hard for this Gamboa fan dammit! Nearly a year an this dude aint fought yet, I know its due to the evil Bobfather etc.... Still, this dude got me waiting like he's Mayweather or some shit. Why every bandwagon I jump on gotta be on a long ting, it's just like queues at the supermarket, always pick the slowest moving one...

Hahaha!!! Whaddup Slump! You're right, it is hard out here for a Gamboa fan...you'd swear he was Floyd by the way his fans are waiting to see him fight again. I would expect him to be matched against an old tomato can to knock the rust off, and Magdaleno would be a good scrap while it lasts. He's undefeated and comes to fight, though I remember him getting dropped by Fernando Beltran a few months ago...he still won the fight.

I have to see more of Roman Martinez, maybe I've seen him fight "by accident" as I've seen many up and coming fighters duke it out on FNFs. Ha! I just looked up what a "queues" was..and this is what followed..."Queue management is a hopeless endeavour. One cannot calculate the structure of man." Good luck with that....sounds like it has a lot to do with long lines and shit (help me out here). laugh.gif
Slumpage
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 26 2012, 10:05 PM) *
Hahaha!!! Whaddup Slump! You're right, it is hard out here for a Gamboa fan...you'd swear he was Floyd by the way his fans are waiting to see him fight again. I would expect him to be matched against an old tomato can to knock the rust off, and Magdaleno would be a good scrap while it lasts. He's undefeated and comes to fight, though I remember him getting dropped by Fernando Beltran a few months ago...he still won the fight.

I have to see more of Roman Martinez, maybe I've seen him fight "by accident" as I've seen many up and coming fighters duke it out on FNFs. Ha! I just looked up what a "queues" was..and this is what followed..."Queue management is a hopeless endeavour. One cannot calculate the structure of man." Good luck with that....sounds like it has a lot to do with long lines and shit (help me out here). laugh.gif


Magdaleno could get similar treatment to what Angel Manfredy got from Floyd if he faces Gamby. I think his gameness will lead him to get caught up in the storm that is "El Ciclon". However he did look like he can box an counter, so I aint gon straight write the dudes hopes off...

Queues are just that, a line at the till... You know how it is, whichever line you pick takes the longest, seems like i got that luck with fighters too...

As for Roman Martinez, last time I saw him fight he got upset in a tough scrap with UK dude Ricky Burns. He's a bit raw, but has some power, kinda like a lesser known Juan Ma Lopez imo...
Cshel86
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Jun 27 2012, 06:21 AM) *
Magdaleno could get similar treatment to what Angel Manfredy got from Floyd if he faces Gamby. I think his gameness will lead him to get caught up in the storm that is "El Ciclon". However he did look like he can box an counter, so I aint gon straight write the dudes hopes off...

Queues are just that, a line at the till... You know how it is, whichever line you pick takes the longest, seems like i got that luck with fighters too...

As for Roman Martinez, last time I saw him fight he got upset in a tough scrap with UK dude Ricky Burns. He's a bit raw, but has some power, kinda like a lesser known Juan Ma Lopez imo...

Ha! Those queues are no joke from what I've read. It cant be any worse than the shit we deal with in the States...here is a bit similar. For instance, Wal Mart will a thousand fuckin' customers, but there are usually about 4 registers open. laugh.gif I try to mindfuck myself into thinking that Im getting in a shorter line, but those usually take the longest.

As for Yuri, he shouldn't have any trouble getting through his first couple of opponents after knocking off the rust. I hope age doesn't become a factor for him. He hasn't been in any wars, so he should okay. I wouldn't mind him fighting Salido again!
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