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It will be a war, but Lopez will have to get Alvarez out of there to win. "Cinnamon Head" is one of the favorite sons of Bob Arum and the second-favorite son of the WBC with Chavez being the first. There's something about an undefeated fighter on a Top Rank show, where the stars are catered to in some of the officiating. (With HBO's pom-poming of course.) Judges don't want the "O" to go on a star's show. The best Lopez gets on the cards is a draw. It will probably be a fight that most will have 115-113 Lopez, 116-112 Lopez and a 114-114 draw.
The judges will go the other way with 115-113 Alvarez twice and a 115-113 Lopez card.
Jack
The judges will go the other way with 115-113 Alvarez twice and a 115-113 Lopez card.
Jack
This is a big card for a non-PPV!
What fights are going to be on Showtime Extreme? We know that Lopez-Alvarez is on Showtime, and I think Gonzalez-Ponce Deleon is the supporter. But what will Showtime Extreme Have? The time grid only shows a one-hour duration for those fights, which I presume will be:
Leo Santa Cruz vs. Eric Morel
Marcos Madiana- Soto Karass.
Jack
What fights are going to be on Showtime Extreme? We know that Lopez-Alvarez is on Showtime, and I think Gonzalez-Ponce Deleon is the supporter. But what will Showtime Extreme Have? The time grid only shows a one-hour duration for those fights, which I presume will be:
Leo Santa Cruz vs. Eric Morel
Marcos Madiana- Soto Karass.
Jack
14 pounds above his weight class spells doom for Cinderfella, he gets stopped in 9.
Maidana stops Jesus, I think both guys hit the canvas at one point, it's a don't blink fight.
Maidana stops Jesus, I think both guys hit the canvas at one point, it's a don't blink fight.
Shoot!
I think I put the poll wrong! I voted Alvarez by close decision and it did not register. The total votes I don't think are being counted.
Jack
I think I put the poll wrong! I voted Alvarez by close decision and it did not register. The total votes I don't think are being counted.
Jack
I believe Lopez is bigger than people realize. He fought Jessie Vargas a year ago, but the fight wasn't at 140...it was at 142, and Lopez hit 142 on the head. I believe he only put on 2 more lbs for the Ortiz fight, coming in at 144 lbs.
He's basically been a WW the whole time. Alvarez on the other hand, is a big 154 lber, and Im expecting him to come in fight night at 167-170, while Lopez may crack 156, while weighing in at 150. I hope to God that he isn't trying to hit 154 on the head, but if so, he better stick to the game plan.
I've never seen Canelo's inside game, but he'll surely need it in this one because Lopez likes to fight at close quarters. I've never seen Canelo bullied or moved around against his own will, and Lopez will be Man of the Year, if he's able to keep Canelo uncomfortable and unbalanced.
That equals less time for Canelo to sit down on a shot that will make Lopez see the little birdies. The moment Lopez decides to go into Mexican overdrive, we'll see him sustain shots that he "may" not be able to take all the way til the final bell.
I give Lopez 85% credit for the Ortiz fight. Why? He got hit way more than he was supposed to, even though he showed great head movements with most of Victor's hooks. He bullied the bully in a few rounds and spots of the fight. I wont give that much credit for power, because Ortiz's head movement is so shitty at times. So yes, I blame Victor's carelessness for the broken jaw, not so much as Lopez's power.
Lopez by UD (close), if he stays in Canelo's chest, keeps him off balance, and bullies him. Canelo by TKO in the mid rounds, if Lopez's heart and thirst to hurt Canelo, prevails. I'll be a man and stick with the Lopez close UD, instead of playing it safe. I'll take responsibility for anything going opposite of how I predicted.
He's basically been a WW the whole time. Alvarez on the other hand, is a big 154 lber, and Im expecting him to come in fight night at 167-170, while Lopez may crack 156, while weighing in at 150. I hope to God that he isn't trying to hit 154 on the head, but if so, he better stick to the game plan.
I've never seen Canelo's inside game, but he'll surely need it in this one because Lopez likes to fight at close quarters. I've never seen Canelo bullied or moved around against his own will, and Lopez will be Man of the Year, if he's able to keep Canelo uncomfortable and unbalanced.
That equals less time for Canelo to sit down on a shot that will make Lopez see the little birdies. The moment Lopez decides to go into Mexican overdrive, we'll see him sustain shots that he "may" not be able to take all the way til the final bell.
I give Lopez 85% credit for the Ortiz fight. Why? He got hit way more than he was supposed to, even though he showed great head movements with most of Victor's hooks. He bullied the bully in a few rounds and spots of the fight. I wont give that much credit for power, because Ortiz's head movement is so shitty at times. So yes, I blame Victor's carelessness for the broken jaw, not so much as Lopez's power.
Lopez by UD (close), if he stays in Canelo's chest, keeps him off balance, and bullies him. Canelo by TKO in the mid rounds, if Lopez's heart and thirst to hurt Canelo, prevails. I'll be a man and stick with the Lopez close UD, instead of playing it safe. I'll take responsibility for anything going opposite of how I predicted.
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Sep 11 2012, 09:21 AM) 
It will be a war, but Lopez will have to get Alvarez out of there to win. "Cinnamon Head" is one of the favorite sons of Bob Arum and the second-favorite son of the WBC with Chavez being the first. There's something about an undefeated fighter on a Top Rank show, where the stars are catered to in some of the officiating. (With HBO's pom-poming of course.) Judges don't want the "O" to go on a star's show. The best Lopez gets on the cards is a draw. It will probably be a fight that most will have 115-113 Lopez, 116-112 Lopez and a 114-114 draw.
The judges will go the other way with 115-113 Alvarez twice and a 115-113 Lopez card.
Jack
The judges will go the other way with 115-113 Alvarez twice and a 115-113 Lopez card.
Jack
the ginger is with golden boy promotions....but i get what you are saying. it still applies.
Late round stoppage for Saul "Canelo" Alvarez! I just don't see Lopez surviving those same bombs Canelo landed on Mosley
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 11 2012, 03:25 PM)
the ginger is with golden boy promotions....but i get what you are saying. it still applies.
Yea, I was thinking of Chavez-Martinez when I typed that. Correct-No Alvarez-Lopez is not Arum, it is Golden Boy. But the "O" record and the WBC support still applies.
Jack
Jack...Im rolling with your scorecard predictions, if it happens to go to the cards. I'm actually predicting that one of these guys will try to end it early...
I think Lopez looks like a giant killer for the 1st 5 or 6 rounds, then Alvarez size advantage takes over for a late stoppage. Size matters and will be on display for this fight. Shame on them for taking this guy who will be game for the fight. lopez gets more respect in losing than Alvarez gets in winning.
Im going out on a limb and I voted Lopez by close desicion. Canelo relys more on percision punching rather than volume, meaning he can be outworked in rounds. The question is can Lopez hang blow for blow with Canelo? Canelos teams betting he cant.
Hey All,
What fights for this card are gonna be on Showtime? And what fight (or fights) are gonna be on Showtime Extreame? For the main card, Tribune Media Services, which does the data for TWC shows a 4hr 30 min run time! Holy shit! Is that gonna be three fights that night on the main event channel? I have not been able to find out what undercard fights are going to go to what channel.
Jack
What fights for this card are gonna be on Showtime? And what fight (or fights) are gonna be on Showtime Extreame? For the main card, Tribune Media Services, which does the data for TWC shows a 4hr 30 min run time! Holy shit! Is that gonna be three fights that night on the main event channel? I have not been able to find out what undercard fights are going to go to what channel.
Jack
Showtime-
Santa Cruz-Eric.
Maidana-Soto Karass.
Jhonny-PDL.
Alvarez-Lopez
Xtreme-
Thomson-Claudio
Don't know the other one, Eddie Gomez-Quinton Whitaker, Carlos Valcarcel-Andres Gutierrez, Francisco Vargas-Victor Sanchez
Santa Cruz-Eric.
Maidana-Soto Karass.
Jhonny-PDL.
Alvarez-Lopez
Xtreme-
Thomson-Claudio
Don't know the other one, Eddie Gomez-Quinton Whitaker, Carlos Valcarcel-Andres Gutierrez, Francisco Vargas-Victor Sanchez
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