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checkleft
Can't say I didn't see this coming. Like I said I just don't trust 50

http://www.boxingscene.com/tmt-promotions-...t-boxing--57010
mrchitown
Damn you Check lol, you beat me to it......with that said, I'll wait til more info comes out but if the rumors are true then that's a sad thing. I was really looking forward to seeing what they could do as a boxing promotional company.

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a 50/50 thing between the 2 of them, we all know they both have egos and sometimes that can stand in the way of productive business. In the end, I hope they can keep their friendship in tact. F*ck money, that comes and goes, but real friends don't
Musashi100
from what i heard it all because of floyd not taking care of business. 50 cent was trying get things moving while floyd just wanted to chill an party.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:05 PM) *
from what i heard it all because of floyd not taking care of business. 50 cent was trying get things moving while floyd just wanted to chill an party.


im not surprised, floyd has doing a lot of partying lately
checkleft
QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Sep 13 2012, 12:05 AM) *
from what i heard it all because of floyd not taking care of business. 50 cent was trying get things moving while floyd just wanted to chill an party.

I doubt it but who knows. Im pretty sure its about money, 50 kinda put his foot in his mouth with that whole "I bet you you won't be promoting Floyd his next fight" to gbp. But if Floyd just wanted to party then why give him all the fighters? This situation is pretty confusing
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 12 2012, 11:21 PM) *
I doubt it but who knows. Im pretty sure its about money, 50 kinda put his foot in his mouth with that whole "I bet you you won't be promoting Floyd his next fight" to gbp. But if Floyd just wanted to party then why give him all the fighters? This situation is pretty confusing


Don't know where you been, maybe you just keep up with the boxing aspect of shit but Floyd has been partying hard since he got out of jail.

Do you have a twitter and if so do you follow Mayweather on twitter?? The man is at 3 or 4 different clubs a week, not to mention his notorious gambling at casinos he likes to do. No one knows what happen but as I said before hopefully they can remain friends. You seem to have a strong dislike for 50 which is kind of weird to me
mrchitown
QUOTE (Musashi100 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:05 PM) *
from what i heard it all because of floyd not taking care of business. 50 cent was trying get things moving while floyd just wanted to chill an party.


He was here in Chicago some weeks back, I know he's been all over since he got out of jail. But the twist to that is people don't know that Floyd has ZERO endorsement deals, he makes up for that in club appearances and things of that nature. So I wouldn't doubt that he was down with forming TMT and not being business like. Besides anybody who really keeps up with him knows after his fights he goes on these things called his "victory tour"

I wouldn't be surprised if the blame here was equal. But I bet the details will slowly unfold, I was really excited to see what TMT could possibly do for the sport of boxing, it's a big letdown in my view. I see people just jumping the gun and blaming 50 then you got people jumping the gun blaming Floyd. Not even taking the time and let them speak on it to get the truth about what's going on, but then again most people with air in their lungs have no common sense so I shouldn't expect it to be displayed, especially on the internet
mrchitown
And more truth reveals itself.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-50-cen...-venture--57016

I never thought that he would do something like this, they should make a movie out of this crap because this sounds like some soap opera bullshit. I wish Floyd would say something about it, I'm sure more "facts" will come out in the following days
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 01:30 AM) *
Don't know where you been, maybe you just keep up with the boxing aspect of shit but Floyd has been partying hard since he got out of jail.

Do you have a twitter and if so do you follow Mayweather on twitter?? The man is at 3 or 4 different clubs a week, not to mention his notorious gambling at casinos he likes to do. No one knows what happen but as I said before hopefully they can remain friends. You seem to have a strong dislike for 50 which is kind of weird to me

It's not that I just know 50 isn't one to stick to something. He finds a niche milks it for what its got and either dumps it or sells it to someone else. He's smart but he's smart for himself only.

I actually don't have a Twitter or FB or any of that lol but I know Floyd parties just as 50 knows Floyd parties, I mean they went on tour together. That's why I think it doesn't make sense, 50 knows this, he was the business man going into it. Floyd was just the biggest draw to this company (talent wise and name wise).
Musashi100
well 50 has made his move now. shit bout to go down now, hopefully this is just all a ploy idk lol.
checkleft
Woe. Yeah if they are splitting up it definitely wasn't over partying, this is looking like some pay back sort of stuff lol.

Or going out on a long shot and guestimating that this is their way or trying to get the pac mayweather fight done but it doesn't look like it Haha
Hotsauce
i see the problem.

50 hired a former top rank matchmaker and floyd didn't like that.

also he probably didn't want to ruined his relationship with haymon and gbp.
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 13 2012, 02:16 AM) *
It's not that I just know 50 isn't one to stick to something. He finds a niche milks it for what its got and either dumps it or sells it to someone else. He's smart but he's smart for himself only.

I actually don't have a Twitter or FB or any of that lol but I know Floyd parties just as 50 knows Floyd parties, I mean they went on tour together. That's why I think it doesn't make sense, 50 knows this, he was the business man going into it. Floyd was just the biggest draw to this company (talent wise and name wise).


50 did some snake stuff, you were correct in a previous statement because something just doesn't seem right about this. i have hard time believing that them 3 out of all the people you could imagine, was going to join forces lol. Koncz studied habitual liar at the university of Bob Arum so I don't trust him lol. Hopefully they get back on track but this is a horrible way to do business, ironically I don't know how successfully 50 will be now. Boxing fans aint like hip hop fans, he'll have to deal with some backlash from this
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 13 2012, 02:41 AM) *
Woe. Yeah if they are splitting up it definitely wasn't over partying, this is looking like some pay back sort of stuff lol.

Or going out on a long shot and guestimating that this is their way or trying to get the pac mayweather fight done but it doesn't look like it Haha


I don't think it was over the partying, 50 has been doing interviews this week and he keep saying Floyd is different. Shiiit anybody who be doing 23 and 1 in JAIL will come out different. But 50 wouldn't get into much more then that, there are reports that 50 was trying to be proactive an that Floyd was just going thru the motions, I don't know if that's true or not but this is one big soap opera
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 03:56 AM) *
50 did some snake stuff, you were correct in a previous statement because something just doesn't seem right about this. i have hard time believing that them 3 out of all the people you could imagine, was going to join forces lol. Koncz studied habitual liar at the university of Bob Arum so I don't trust him lol. Hopefully they get back on track but this is a horrible way to do business, ironically I don't know how successfully 50 will be now. Boxing fans aint like hip hop fans, he'll have to deal with some backlash from this



lol i don't believe that either
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 13 2012, 03:01 AM) *
i see the problem.

50 hired a former top rank matchmaker and floyd didn't like that.

also he probably didn't want to ruined his relationship with haymon and gbp.


Who is the matchmaker he hired?

I think Floyd maybe didn't like the back and forth with GBP also, and let's not forget that when Dirrell became a TMT member, he dumped Haymon as his manager
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 04:00 AM) *
Who is the matchmaker he hired?

I think Floyd maybe didn't like the back and forth with GBP also, and let's not forget that when Dirrell became a TMT member, he dumped Haymon as his manager


read this


http://fighthype.com/news/article13222.html
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 13 2012, 04:03 AM) *


I just read it, maaan I smell a setup, I'm not gon say who I think was behind it but Floyd was definitely played in this situation
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 04:05 AM) *
I just read it, maaan I smell a setup, I'm not gon say who I think was behind it but Floyd was definitely played in this situation


after i read that, i was like "OH SHIT"
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 04:00 AM) *
Who is the matchmaker he hired?

I think Floyd maybe didn't like the back and forth with GBP also, and let's not forget that when Dirrell became a TMT member, he dumped Haymon as his manager



i wonder why after reading that article
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 13 2012, 04:17 AM) *
i wonder why after reading that article


I was wondering that from jump, why would you fire the most powerful figure (arguably) in boxing? It just don't add up
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 13 2012, 04:30 AM) *
I was wondering that from jump, why would you fire the most powerful figure (arguably) in boxing? It just don't add up



yep because at the time i was thinking "who would dumped al haymon?"
checkleft
If this article on the front page is right Floyd is a lot smarter then people give him credit for.. and I knew that mf'er 50 was up to some shit, that guy doesn't care about anything or anyone but his pocket book. From the look of it they were tryin to set up cotto too! (If this is true)
Hotsauce
I do remember tmt wanted to signed cotto but cotto turned them down
BigFightFan
Is the Top Rank affiliation the reason why Julio signed a deal to endorse 50's SK energy drink? I'm surprised Floyd trusted him after being screwed by J Prince in the past. 50 spoke real disrespectful during that interview by saying everyone waits on him to feel generous to give them a payday, so I'm sure there is validity to the beef. I'm just waiting on the facts to come out.

pacco_diablo
This who story sounds eerily similar to Luca Brasi "joining" Sollozzo's gang. Manny P. and 50 joining up??? Someone is being set up, and someone will be sleeping with the fishes, financially at least.
mitukczuk
I don't think Floyd and 50 have some troubles between themselves. I smell business behind all this. I won't pay it any attention until I see some statements from 50 or Floyd themselves.
Gambit808
QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Sep 13 2012, 10:27 AM) *
I don't think Floyd and 50 have some troubles between themselves. I smell business behind all this. I won't pay it any attention until I see some statements from 50 or Floyd themselves.

Agreed, until I hear something back from either, it's just a rumored story to me.
BigFightFan
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Sep 13 2012, 12:21 PM) *
Agreed, until I hear something back from either, it's just a rumored story to me.

Where there is smoke, there's fire! It's some truth to this story, we are just waiting on the particulars
boxingloner
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

By the way I think its a great idea if 50cent's whole idea about TMT was to have both Mayweather and Pacquiao involved. I mean who wouldnt want to have the two biggest guys in boxing as part of your business venture. But realistically that happening was zero to none as egos get in the way. Personally i think originally Floyd was down with the TMT thing but once 50cent told him he'd like Pacman part of it too thats when things fell apart with them. I think 50cent wants to make a huge splash in the boxing world and be the man behind making Mayweather-Pacman finally happen and what better way to make it happen by having everyone in it together. Who knows but its great soap opera.
daprofessor
for a boxing promotional company who hasn't exactly promoted a single boxing match....they sure know how to get attention. laugh.gif

it's disappointing to hear that he hired the old toprank match maker. i was wondering who they would align themselves with in that regard because it will be very instrumental in their success. golden boy has shot itself in the foot while oscars childhood buddy has been trying to learn the ins and outs of matchmaking. dkp and toprank have proven track records with their matchmaking...and that is an area often over looked by promotional companies new to the sport.
Hotsauce
so is manny fighting jmm or thats a rumor?
leonthegee
You see how Gamboa and others contracts were turned over to Mayweather Promotions? Im betting that was the plan all along. This whole thing smells like a setup.
mrchitown
The reason why I think there is validity to this is because of the eery similarities in the tactics of 50 lately. For those of you who want proof there's a riff, I told you he was on the Rickey Smiley morning show talking about Floyd and not in a friendly way. Youtube it or google it. He's been doing interviews all this week with other radio show hosts and making similar comments

The eery connection I'm speaking of is 50's headphone line, he did an interview about 2 to 3 weeks back making cryptic remarks about the company, which is called SMS audio, Sleek by 50 for you old heads lol. Come to find out last week, he's being sued by the makers of SMS, he invested in the company and stole the idea and tried to sell it to a rival company, using the same technology and plans that SMS presented to him

Now he says he's "out of the headphone business". It's apparent that he's hearing ideas and stealing them for himself and his own personal gain. Karma is a bitch and if 50 somehow forms a company with Manny who seems to be dumb as rocks when it comes to business, I don't see success behind it. Boxing fans don't like sh*t like this, he and who he aligns himself with will face some form of backlash
Gambit808
Wow lol, just wow...

Can't wait to see how this whole thing plays out.

Seat-belts on people!
BigFightFan
Bob arum wins again! U have to love the old guy
http://www.thisis50.com/m/blogpost?id=7845...Post%3A30427543
duwdu
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 13 2012, 03:01 AM) *
i see the problem.

50 hired a former top rank matchmaker and floyd didn't like that.

also he probably didn't want to ruined his relationship with haymon and gbp.


Hotsauce nailed it here...IMHO. These are probably the most succinct reasons why Floyd & 50 would want to grow apart, just like that.

In addition to the latest insight to the whole saga as provided by mrchitown in his latest post above this, I think 50 came into the whole thing wanting to make quick money/turn over off the May-Pac potential mega fight, and then get out. Unfortunately, he (50) found out it wouldn't be that straightforward. Especially if his claim is true that he raised/put up that $40mil Floyd once offered to Pac.

P34c3
daprofessor
was it really a reign? outside of signing a few top notch fighters....they really didn't do anything.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 11:41 AM) *
was it really a reign? outside of signing a few top notch fighters....they really didn't do anything.

It was a joke bro lol. So many people were talking crazy like 50 was gonna save boxing and be a different kind of promoter and work all sorts of wonders, but like you mentioned they didnt even promote an event and he already dumped his fighters.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (duwdu @ Sep 14 2012, 09:24 AM) *
Hotsauce nailed it here...IMHO. These are probably the most succinct reasons why Floyd & 50 would want to grow apart, just like that.

In addition to the latest insight to the whole saga as provided by mrchitown in his latest post above this, I think 50 came into the whole thing wanting to make quick money/turn over off the May-Pac potential mega fight, and then get out. Unfortunately, he (50) found out it wouldn't be that straightforward. Especially if his claim is true that he raised/put up that $40mil Floyd once offered to Pac.

P34c3



so basically 50 was just looking out for himself?

what about those other fighters he had signed?
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 14 2012, 12:57 PM) *
It was a joke bro lol. So many people were talking crazy like 50 was gonna save boxing and be a different kind of promoter and work all sorts of wonders, but like you mentioned they didnt even promote an event and he already dumped his fighters.


there is so much more to boxing than meets the eye.

there's a reason arum would have no problem dealing with 50 over al haymon. let's figure it out....one guy is a harvard educated business man....one guy isn't. do the math. laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 02:09 PM) *
there is so much more to boxing than meets the eye.

there's a reason arum would have no problem dealing with 50 over al haymon. let's figure it out....one guy is a harvard educated business man....one guy isn't. do the math. laugh.gif


Cold professor, that's just cold man lmao
Hotsauce
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 02:09 PM) *
there is so much more to boxing than meets the eye.

there's a reason arum would have no problem dealing with 50 over al haymon. let's figure it out....one guy is a harvard educated business man....one guy isn't. do the math. laugh.gif


lmao damn
duwdu
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 14 2012, 01:19 PM) *
so basically 50 was just looking out for himself?

what about those other fighters he had signed?


One will have to wonder.

The way 50 has been singing his own tune all alone and unforced all over the place recently, makes one think he feels really insecure. I wish we'll just hear from Floyd as well while this is hot. For now, the closest to Floyd talking that one is getting is probably in the front page articles by Ben. As has already posted by some, the whole world will have to wait for the whole story to unravel, so all can move on.

P34c3
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 02:09 PM) *
there is so much more to boxing than meets the eye.

there's a reason arum would have no problem dealing with 50 over al haymon. let's figure it out....one guy is a harvard educated business man....one guy isn't. do the math. laugh.gif

Exactly. That's why I was so skeptical with 50s involvment in boxing

But as far as the fighters he signed I read somewhere that he was gonna turn them over to mayweather promotions
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 14 2012, 02:36 PM) *
Cold professor, that's just cold man lmao


cold, but true. i'm not trying to diss 50...but al haymon does business with much bigger stars and usually writes their checks. ppl got it twisted. i had to laugh when i saw kevin ioles list of boxing's most powerful ppl. 50 shouldn't have even been on the list.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 05:46 PM) *
cold, but true. i'm not trying to diss 50...but al haymon does business with much bigger stars and usually writes their checks. ppl got it twisted. i had to laugh when i saw kevin ioles list of boxing's most powerful ppl. 50 shouldn't have even been on the list.


i agree with that.

50 hasn't done anything yet.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Sep 14 2012, 06:20 PM) *
i agree with that.

50 hasn't done anything yet.


exactly! that's the problem with this country...we reward ppl for potential rather than actual accomplishment. then when ppl do accomplish shit....everyone tries to knock them down.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 07:25 PM) *
exactly! that's the problem with this country...we reward ppl for potential rather than actual accomplishment. then when ppl do accomplish shit....everyone tries to knock them down.



word
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 14 2012, 05:46 PM) *
cold, but true. i'm not trying to diss 50...but al haymon does business with much bigger stars and usually writes their checks. ppl got it twisted. i had to laugh when i saw kevin ioles list of boxing's most powerful ppl. 50 shouldn't have even been on the list.


I used to like his journalism pieces, now it seems as if he's a puppet...read into that what you will haha

He shouldn't have been on the list, maybe the should've did a honorable mention for the people who "could" become power players in boxing
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