Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Showtime Quadruple Header Preview Next Week With Garcia-Morales II
FightHype Community > BOXING HYPE > Boxing
Jack 1000
Hey All,

Showtime has a huge quadruple card next weekend! (Discuss these fights)

Morales vs. Garcia II-WBA/WBC World Jr. Welterweight Unification Championship.

Malinaggi vs Cano- WBA World Welterweight Title

Quillin vs. Jikman- WBO World Middleweight Title

Bailey vs Alexander-IBF World Welterweight Title.

Jack
mitukczuk
Stacked card. Looking forward to see Paulie in the squared circle again.

Not looking forward to Bailey vs. Alexander - I see Devon winning and outboxing Bailey. Easily.

Morales vs. Garcia - Can't wait to see if Erik still got the spark. I hope hes in shape cause I am cheering for him !
Cshel86
Quillin vs Whoever the fuck: Already a boring fight in my eyes. I hope it's the first fight, so I can make time to sort socks. I like Quillin, but his opposition as of late has been nothing to brag about.

Malignaggi/Cano: As some of us know, Cano is tough as nails. He's still a bit inexperienced, but that knockdown-dragout with Morales last September, may have served him well in the experience department. Paulie is more than likely going to box the whole time, and hopefully in spots, he decides to throw hard, so we can see where he is, in regards to power.

I've been reading his stuff on Twitter lately, and he seems amped with all intentions of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Pauile should take the decision easily, but if he slips up, he may hit the canvas or get hurt, like he did in the Lora and J. Cotto fight.

Alexander/Bailey: I've been getting pumped for this fight as of late. As most of us with two bring cells to rub together, knows that this should be a relatively easy fight for Devon. If all else fails, the shit will be better than Bailey/Jones, where the fight was a snoozer, til Jones got folded up like a Decepticon. With that in mind (the fight being), we ALL know that Devon gets wound up in EVERY fight, and works against himself, so Bailey may play into that.

Remember, Jones fought like a sissy, then tried to get comfortable in the last couple of rounds because he knew he was on his was to an easy UD. Devon could very well do the same shit, except, he'll be tired from all of that tension and grunting, which would give Bailey another chance to land a late KO. We shall see. Cant wait to hear Cunningham's instructions between rounds...it always make for a good laugh when he gets upset. laugh.gif

Garcia/Morales: I would only hope that Danny goes in there and gives Erik the blues quickly. There's no way this fight should be a knockdown dragout, that definitely wont be a good look for Danny. Everybody and their fuckin' mama and grandma have been in a war with Morales, no need for Garcia to repeat that like it happened in the first fight.

He wont get many points for a war with Morales, and he wont get many for finishing him...so he's stuck in that aspect. We know that Morales is a warrior, so who knows what Morales we'll see next weekend. Garcia's hooks will always be the answer in his fights, but I would like to see him pressure Morales, instead of waiting. Erik doesn't punch hard, but he can and will wear you down.

Speaking of hard punches, I wonder what kind of gloves they'll be wearing in this one. They wore Winning gloves last time, which are softer gloves...hence why it took Erik so long to taste the canvas. I heard Danny on the radio a week or so ago, and it sounded like he'll have his choice of gloves. Reyes gloves could spell trouble for Erik, and we saw that in his last two fights with Manny, because Manny wore Winning gloves in the first one.

Erik gives everyone problems, so its a toss-up for Danny in regards to getting in a dog fight with him or controlling the pace. IF Danny happens to look bad or loses, then the Khan KO victory will be a thing of the past. People would immediately start making excuses for Khan, and accuse Danny of not being as good as people made him out to be.

Oh what a brutal sport we, and the fans are as equally brutal. Cant wait for this card!

daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:47 PM) *
Quillin vs Whoever the fuck: Already a boring fight in my eyes. I hope it's the first fight, so I can make time to sort socks. I like Quillin, but his opposition as of late has been nothing to brag about.

Malignaggi/Cano: As some of us know, Cano is tough as nails. He's still a bit inexperienced, but that knockdown-dragout with Morales last September, may have served him well in the experience department. Paulie is more than likely going to box the whole time, and hopefully in spots, he decides to throw hard, so we can see where he is, in regards to power.

I've been reading his stuff on Twitter lately, and he seems amped with all intentions of pulling a rabbit out of a hat. Pauile should take the decision easily, but if he slips up, he may hit the canvas or get hurt, like he did in the Lora and J. Cotto fight.

Alexander/Bailey: I've been getting pumped for this fight as of late. As most of us with two bring cells to rub together, knows that this should be a relatively easy fight for Devon. If all else fails, the shit will be better than Bailey/Jones, where the fight was a snoozer, til Jones got folded up like a Decepticon. With that in mind (the fight being), we ALL know that Devon gets wound up in EVERY fight, and works against himself, so Bailey may play into that.

Remember, Jones fought like a sissy, then tried to get comfortable in the last couple of rounds because he knew he was on his was to an easy UD. Devon could very well do the same shit, except, he'll be tired from all of that tension and grunting, which would give Bailey another chance to land a late KO. We shall see. Cant wait to hear Cunningham's instructions between rounds...it always make for a good laugh when he gets upset. laugh.gif

Garcia/Morales: I would only hope that Danny goes in there and gives Erik the blues quickly. There's no way this fight should be a knockdown dragout, that definitely wont be a good look for Danny. Everybody and their fuckin' mama and grandma have been in a war with Morales, no need for Garcia to repeat that like it happened in the first fight.

He wont get many points for a war with Morales, and he wont get many for finishing him...so he's stuck in that aspect. We know that Morales is a warrior, so who knows what Morales we'll see next weekend. Garcia's hooks will always be the answer in his fights, but I would like to see him pressure Morales, instead of waiting. Erik doesn't punch hard, but he can and will wear you down.

Speaking of hard punches, I wonder what kind of gloves they'll be wearing in this one. They wore Winning gloves last time, which are softer gloves...hence why it took Erik so long to taste the canvas. I heard Danny on the radio a week or so ago, and it sounded like he'll have his choice of gloves. Reyes gloves could spell trouble for Erik, and we saw that in his last two fights with Manny, because Manny wore Winning gloves in the first one.

Erik gives everyone problems, so its a toss-up for Danny in regards to getting in a dog fight with him or controlling the pace. IF Danny happens to look bad or loses, then the Khan KO victory will be a thing of the past. People would immediately start making excuses for Khan, and accuse Danny of not being as good as people made him out to be.

Oh what a brutal sport we, and the fans are as equally brutal. Cant wait for this card!


never fails. i love it. "what tha fuck iz u doin' mang!? get out there and pepper this muthafucka with the jab and side step!!!" he gets all animated and shit. it's hilarious. i'm hoping bailey pulls another rabbit out of his hat and lands that beautiful right before the night ends. alexander and cunningham targeted him because they think he's slow and past it. he may be...but he still packs that punch. be careful what u ask for...

i get the feeling garcia/morales is going to be a tough one. morales is a guy who knows how to set shit up and danny isn't exactly a pressure fighter or someone who's going to force erik to work so that he'll tire him out. if he tries to force the pace on morales...that can back fire. sitting back fighting a slow pace is also dangerous. it really depends on which morales shows up..like u said. i like them both...so i don't know i'm rooting for one guy more than the other. all i know is that i'm looking forward to hearing angel garcia talk shit at the press conferences. laugh.gif dude is hilarious.
Gambit808
All I'm gonna say here is, I HAVE MORALES WINNING!

Out of all the potential fights out there he could have gon to, after knocking out Khan, he back tracks to a living legend who nearly clowned him the first time they fought. Idk about you guys, but I smell a upset here. (Kanye shoulder shrug)
daprofessor
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 15 2012, 03:13 PM) *
All I'm gonna say here is, I HAVE MORALES WINNING!

Out of all the potential fights out there he could have gon to, after knocking out Khan, he back tracks to a living legend who nearly clowned him the first time they fought. Idk about you guys, but I smell a upset here. (Kanye shoulder shrug)


highly likely. i don't think it's the bout he wanted. i heard him say in an interview "it's what mr haymon wants..." so i'm guessing he would have rather faced another opponent. he beat him...that should have been good enough. they're rolling the dice with this match up.

side note: what's with the kanye shrugs...and...*saying this in a kanye voice...etc..etc...? laugh.gif of all the clowns to emulate...smh.


Gambit808
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 15 2012, 05:36 PM) *
side note: what's with the kanye shrugs...and...*saying this in a kanye voice...etc..etc...? laugh.gif of all the clowns to emulate...smh.

Nah... Lol... Nah, I wasn't saying it like kanye. It was when I got threw typing my opinion, I literally shrugged my shoulders in a way that (if i were to compare) resembled Kanye after he went on stage with his rant about Beyonce video being the greatest vid of all time.

Could've used the gif to make my point better, but I just threw that out there.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 15 2012, 11:47 PM) *
Nah... Lol... Nah, I wasn't saying it like kanye. It was when I got threw typing my opinion, I literally shrugged my shoulders in a way that (if i were to compare) resembled Kanye after he went on stage with his rant about Beyonce video being the greatest vid of all time.

Could've used the gif to make my point better, but I just threw that out there.


laugh.gif that was some funny shit! thing about it though...kanye did the jordan shrug. laugh.gif

daprofessor
i love this dude!!! laugh.gif

daprofessor
shit! i posted the wrong one.

damn.... give me a sec.
mgrover
doesnt matter morales tested positive for a banned substance, although the fights going ahead. I hope this shit does not get swept under the rug, it needs to be demonized and shamed
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 18 2012, 06:47 PM) *
doesnt matter morales tested positive for a banned substance, although the fights going ahead. I hope this shit does not get swept under the rug, it needs to be demonized and shamed


yeah, i read that. it's messed up. that just adds fuel to the fire for garcia. that may play into morales' hands...we'll see. angel garcia had some pretty heated stuff to say about morales...i wonder if that positive test contributed to his tirade. he was talking about morales' mother!
BigFightFan
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 18 2012, 07:47 PM) *
doesnt matter morales tested positive for a banned substance, although the fights going ahead. I hope this shit does not get swept under the rug, it needs to be demonized and shamed

I'm thinking its a diuretic, since he has trouble making weight. Morales looks every bit of his age and needs to retire if he is not motivated to get in fighting condition. That's how people get hurt in the ring
daprofessor
here's the link...
Cshel86
Just read the banned substance bullshit...tired of fighters and athletes with this nonsense. At the same time, I love it, because it forces fighters to be justified when they ask for random testing...even if selfish shitty fans dont care.

I say they should let the fight go on, and make Morales come down to 138. LOL. What an ass, why would he even consider a banned substance. Bitch, get on an aerobics program in between fights and lose weight the right way.

Its sad that I have to say this about one of my favorite fighters, but seriously, if you can't compete...take a seat. Period
daprofessor
yeah...i had a feeling there was something up. i think it's the positive test that was reported. here's another video on the matter.

checkleft
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 18 2012, 07:47 PM) *
doesnt matter morales tested positive for a banned substance, although the fights going ahead. I hope this shit does not get swept under the rug, it needs to be demonized and shamed

Well from the report on the front page they are waiting for the results of the second sample until they decide to go on with the fight. Dannys dad already advised him not to go forward with the fight if the second is bad too.

What a terrible way to finish off an amazing career. Wth morales
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 18 2012, 07:38 PM) *
Just read the banned substance bullshit...tired of fighters and athletes with this nonsense. At the same time, I love it, because it forces fighters to be justified when they ask for random testing...even if selfish shitty fans dont care.

I say they should let the fight go on, and make Morales come down to 138. LOL. What an ass, why would he even consider a banned substance. Bitch, get on an aerobics program in between fights and lose weight the right way.

Its sad that I have to say this about one of my favorite fighters, but seriously, if you can't compete...take a seat. Period


morales didn't make weight the first fight...there should be absolutely no excuses this time. i'm disappointed to hear this about morales. angel garcia seemed pissed about the whole thing. this just added a new twist to the fight.
BigFightFan
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 18 2012, 08:21 PM) *

LMAO @ the look on oscars face
checkleft
It was a weight loss/stamina boosting drug he was caught on. Their saying it was a small trace so the morales camp claims it was tainted meat from their camp in Mexico. This could be a valid claim but I'm not sure I'm buying it, Erik is older and has had his weight problems. Plus I've heard the whole tainted meat thing before, still not buying it. He probably took it early on in camp in hope it would go away by testing time...

I know Floyd was only trying to protect himself in his own fights but this dude started a movement. Everybody is getting caught now for everything.

I wonder if the effects of this drug, once stopped, carry on after for a while? And if so if the fight goes on and morales wins can the Garcia camp fight for a no contest?
mitukczuk
This is actually quite dissapointing. Although it probably won't happen, I want Erik to come out clean from this one. Tainted meat though? Thank you, but no.
Why do people even use this...they don't want to get paid, or what? It's like 90% chance you will get caught so what's the point? I don't get it.

I was really looking forward to this fight.

Floyd had a point and I am happy the word has spreaded.
Jack 1000
Several sources claim that Morales failed a random drug test. A "B" sample will be collected and as of now the fight is still on. According tto these sources, its a medication prescribed to deal with weight loss. Not a steroid.

Story here:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/85224...center-saturday

Jack
mgrover
smh its already been a bad morning and now i have to hear this shit. i hope he gets the shit beaten out of him
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 18 2012, 08:38 PM) *
Just read the banned substance bullshit...tired of fighters and athletes with this nonsense. At the same time, I love it, because it forces fighters to be justified when they ask for random testing...even if selfish shitty fans dont care.

I say they should let the fight go on, and make Morales come down to 138. LOL. What an ass, why would he even consider a banned substance. Bitch, get on an aerobics program in between fights and lose weight the right way.

Its sad that I have to say this about one of my favorite fighters, but seriously, if you can't compete...take a seat. Period


Morales has given years to the sport and has shown heart, courage, some of the best wars. With that being said, he really needs to retire but since he hasn't......let the dude take a lil something...
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 19 2012, 04:30 AM) *
This is actually quite dissapointing. Although it probably won't happen, I want Erik to come out clean from this one. Tainted meat though? Thank you, but no.
Why do people even use this...they don't want to get paid, or what? It's like 90% chance you will get caught so what's the point? I don't get it.

I was really looking forward to this fight.

Floyd had a point and I am happy the word has spreaded.


I'm thinking the same thing. I wouldn't do anything to ruin my purse. I wish they would let us know what the substance is. A banned substance is a banned substance but I think we would be less harsh on someone taking a diuretic to make weight vs. someone taking an anabolic steriod.



daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 18 2012, 08:42 PM) *
Well from the report on the front page they are waiting for the results of the second sample until they decide to go on with the fight. Dannys dad already advised him not to go forward with the fight if the second is bad too.

What a terrible way to finish off an amazing career. Wth morales


if i'm danny...i tax the shit out of morales then give send him off to retirement with a nice ass whoopin. laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Oct 18 2012, 09:44 PM) *
LMAO @ the look on oscars face


he looked like he wanted to pull him away from the podium. laugh.gif
checkleft
QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ Oct 19 2012, 12:13 PM) *
I'm thinking the same thing. I wouldn't do anything to ruin my purse. I wish they would let us know what the substance is. A banned substance is a banned substance but I think we would be less harsh on someone taking a diuretic to make weight vs. someone taking an anabolic steriod.

I forgot the name but its a weight loss supplement that also boosts your stamina.
Cshel86
I'm sure that the only reason this fight hasn't been called off, is because of the time frame in which the positive results came about. The Peterson and Berto positive results came in time to change opponents and fight dates. This two days nonsense has left the boxing world in a frenzy.

Honestly, not many truly cared for this rematch anyway, but they've promoted the shit out of it and pulled a lot of fighters together to make this card possible. If all else fails, they can at least make Alexander/Bailey the main event. I'm sure it would at least hold the same interest as this forced rematch.

Shit, they try to give Morales another decent payday, and he does this? This whole contamination excuse, along with other excuse that fighters give when positive, is getting old. Speaking of that, where in the hell is Tarver's ass? Lol

Anyhow, I can't wait this card to come and go, thanks to the shenanigans over the past couple of days. I love Morales, but his weight situation is killing me. You're already old as fuck and still given a chance by your fans and promoters, so why give us your ass to kiss when it's time to commit? Most of all, why dick up a card full of young potential stars who still give a damn about being something in the sport?

Erik will always be great after the first bell, and all the way to the final bell...but his pre-fight nonsense is hard to stomach. If you ALREADY know that you're gonna have a hard time making weight, try to gradually shed it before you even start camp. This dude makes the banned substance look bad, because he barely made weight earlier. laugh.gif
mgrover
i don't get it, one of his results came back negative. that shit obviously seems tampered with to make it negative.

also looking into the whole contaminated food, it seems a lot of atheletes that have been caught using this drug have used that excuse, but does it come from a legitimate source or what?
BigDDatHomey
Wasn't Morales a couple pounds over for the first fight?
checkleft
QUOTE (BigDDatHomey @ Oct 19 2012, 07:03 PM) *
Wasn't Morales a couple pounds over for the first fight?

Heard he had to weigh in twice for this fight. Means he didn't make weight went to the bathroom and/or got naked and had to do it again
BigFightFan
The public is not 2 concerned about Morales failing the drug test. Peterson and berto took a lot of heat for testing positive, just saying
Cshel86
laugh.gif

So the B sample just came back positive...and not a peep about the fight being cancelled. Gotta love the bias in this sport...gotta love it.

Advice to Morales...if you're gonna fight on American television, leave the PEDs or banned substances alone. On top of that, please make weight. If you decide to fight in Mexico for your next fight, we wont care...most of us don't even have the channel to see it anyway.

If your promoters are giving you a crack at the spotlight again, especially at your age, then please don't slap us in the face from a far. Do what you want to do in Mexico, run amok if you will, but make the most of your HBO and Showtime appearances. Thanks
checkleft
Well Danny was heard saying something like "I'm not fighting a cheater" so the fight may be called off unless they throw some sort if incentive in for Danny.
Cshel86
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 20 2012, 12:19 AM) *
Well Danny was heard saying something like "I'm not fighting a cheater" so the fight may be called off unless they throw some sort if incentive in for Danny.

I just don't see Danny walking away from $1M. He's a cool dude with his head on his shoulders, but again, I don't see him walking away from $1M. He needs to tax Erik's ass before the first bell, and after the bell. laugh.gif
checkleft
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 20 2012, 12:39 AM) *
I just don't see Danny walking away from $1M. He's a cool dude with his head on his shoulders, but again, I don't see him walking away from $1M. He needs to tax Erik's ass before the first bell, and after the bell. laugh.gif

I've always wondered why a fighter who was going into a fight and found out his opponent was on something illegal and didn't fight sue the other fighter for breach of contract.. I mean Danny kept his end of the bargain if the fight doesn't happen I would sue morales for lost wages on the count that he breached the contract.
Jack 1000
According to ESPN, fight appears to be on:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/85266...ht-erik-morales

Just to make sure there are no more sudden changes, we will plan an on-going fight RBR thread in a few hours. Should be up around 6ET/4PMPT. I have no source that indicates that any cancellation would kill the rest of the card.

Jack
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2014 Invision Power Services, Inc.