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mitukczuk
Since I have created the topic about Danny Garcia, I think it's only fair to create one about Daniel Jacobs who came back after his long battle with cancer, which in itself is a lifetime accomplishment.

I was listening to some of his after-fight interviews and man, what a cool dude. I know his opponent wasn't top-notch, but at least he chose someone with a winning record for his comeback. I noticed he got hit couple of times in that fight, but otherwise I really liked his D which seems to be a mixture of various styles - shoulder roll etc. No question about the speed and power. He got care-less against Pirog, who is a freak anyway, protected, but still a freak.

What do you think is next for him ? Possible match-ups ? I don't want to see him rush things, but man...what a champ he would make.


daprofessor
i liked the little bit i saw from jacobs. he seems to be throwing great punches. i know his opponent was limited...but i'm looking at danny's movement...and he's back! great story...and u can see he realizes that he has a second lease on life. u can see it in his expressions and passion and hear it in his voice. life is truly a gift and i believe he intends to make the most of it.

pirog is protected? he fought jacobs! that was a roll of the dice.
checkleft
Well I think cheesy asked me during the fight thread and he filled me in on how he did. Daniel has always been a stand up nice kid. And going through what he has been through just makes me respect him even more, he makes a good comeback from something like that will be legend even of people don't acknowledge it.
mitukczuk
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 22 2012, 12:14 PM) *
pirog is protected? he fought jacobs! that was a roll of the dice.


And hasn't fought in the US ever since. Jacobs fight is in my opinion an exception to the rule. I wish Pirog would fought someone worthy, its a waste of talent seeing him fighting guys like Maciel. At least he doesnt have that title anymore, but the clock is ticking. I was really impressed with the way he fought.

Anyways, I like what Danny did in the fight too. I guess he could have waited with the KO and get some rounds under his belt but I am certainly not complaining about seeing punches like those he threw. Mean. I liked his movement too and that D, although he didn't give me a chance to see it later on in the fight, seemed great. Always nice to see a young guy with such nice skill set.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 22 2012, 01:43 PM) *
And hasn't fought in the US ever since. Jacobs fight is in my opinion an exception to the rule. I wish Pirog would fought someone worthy, its a waste of talent seeing him fighting guys like Maciel. At least he doesnt have that title anymore, but the clock is ticking. I was really impressed with the way he fought.

Anyways, I like what Danny did in the fight too. I guess he could have waited with the KO and get some rounds under his belt but I am certainly not complaining about seeing punches like those he threw. Mean. I liked his movement too and that D, although he didn't give me a chance to see it later on in the fight, seemed great. Always nice to see a young guy with such nice skill set.


pirog was scheduled to fight golovkin on hbo in the u.s. that's not the kind of match up u make if you're trying to protect a fighter. he had an injury so he had to pull out...but i'm thinking that fight is going to happen eventually.
HazConvictedFelonMane
Jacobs gets much love.
mitukczuk
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 22 2012, 12:47 PM) *
pirog was scheduled to fight golovkin on hbo in the u.s. that's not the kind of match up u make if you're trying to protect a fighter. he had an injury so he had to pull out...but i'm thinking that fight is going to happen eventually.


No argument there, Professor. I still stand behind my statement though. Although fighting in the US alone doesn't mean anything, I still think that staying in Russia is not the way to go if you want to make it..especially when you have (used to have) that title around your waist. Sturm's situation was the same, but at least he got fucked over with that De La Hoya bs decision so he had a reason not to do it. Just my two cents.

Anyways, who do you think Danny should fight ?
Franchize
First and foremost, I admire his perserverance to even CONSIDER returning to boxing after being paralyzed from his cancer. Secondly, I didnt see all of the fight but that KO was incredible. He made that dude look like he went over the middle for a slant route and Ray Lewis hit him. Jacobs punch pretty much said to cancer...who's paralyzed now?
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 22 2012, 12:47 PM) *
pirog was scheduled to fight golovkin on hbo in the u.s. that's not the kind of match up u make if you're trying to protect a fighter. he had an injury so he had to pull out...but i'm thinking that fight is going to happen eventually.

Pirog is a fishy character. He did beat Danny but he beat him while he was in a terrible situation (believe his grandma or mom died like a few days before the fight). And after that everytime he was up for a big fight he would get "injured". And some fishy ass injuries like ice skating accidents and from using the sledge hammer on the tire. And in between all of this it felt like he was making soup cause he fought nothing but tomatoes. And I would understand if the guy was a prospect but isn't pirog like 32?
Cshel86
Great comeback win for Jacobs...while it lasted. Franchize, you didn't miss much, it was only one round. LOL. Anyhow, I'm glad to see dude back in the ring.

Was it me, or did Danny seem strong as hell? Dude seemed built like an ox. Maybe a Quillin fight would be in his not too distant future. They may know Ishida in there with him in the mean time.

I think Pirog just has some shitty management, but that's what I heard a year ago.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 22 2012, 02:07 PM) *
No argument there, Professor. I still stand behind my statement though. Although fighting in the US alone doesn't mean anything, I still think that staying in Russia is not the way to go if you want to make it..especially when you have (used to have) that title around your waist. Sturm's situation was the same, but at least he got fucked over with that De La Hoya bs decision so he had a reason not to do it. Just my two cents.

Anyways, who do you think Danny should fight ?


sturm is aligned with a big time promoter in germany and they tend to make a decent buck over there fighting mediocre opposition. i wouldn't put pirog in the same category because i think his situation is different. he doesn't have a big time promoter. hbo chose to act like he didn't exist after his fight with jacobs. i guess no one had options on his next fights when he won. they should have...because i think he's a really good fighter.

as for danny...i think they should take their time with him and match him appropriately. there's no rush...test the waters....build him back up. eventually...i'd like to see him get back to a title shot. maybe a rematch with pirog? he's in a deep division.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 22 2012, 02:27 PM) *
Pirog is a fishy character. He did beat Danny but he beat him while he was in a terrible situation (believe his grandma or mom died like a few days before the fight). And after that everytime he was up for a big fight he would get "injured". And some fishy ass injuries like ice skating accidents and from using the sledge hammer on the tire. And in between all of this it felt like he was making soup cause he fought nothing but tomatoes. And I would understand if the guy was a prospect but isn't pirog like 32?


yeah, i didn't like the circumstances surrounding the fight with jacobs and pirog and at the time...i thought it was a factor. i didn't know about his injuries being fishy with pirog. that happens in boxing. if it's a pattern...then it's definitely worth questioning. i'd like to see him aligned with an american promoter to get him on tv here. i recall reading an interview where he stated he wanted to fight here more often because this is where the best are...blah,blah,blah... hbo should have brought him back after that win over jacobs. as for his opposition...trying to get real opponents to fight in russia isn't easy. not many will go overseas to take a fight against a guy like pirog.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 22 2012, 02:06 PM) *
yeah, i didn't like the circumstances surrounding the fight with jacobs and pirog and at the time...i thought it was a factor. i didn't know about his injuries being fishy with pirog. that happens in boxing. if it's a pattern...then it's definitely worth questioning. i'd like to see him aligned with an american promoter to get him on tv here. i recall reading an interview where he stated he wanted to fight here more often because this is where the best are...blah,blah,blah... hbo should have brought him back after that win over jacobs. as for his opposition...trying to get real opponents to fight in russia isn't easy. not many will go overseas to take a fight against a guy like pirog.

Well pirogs boat might have sailed since he hasn't really done much and he has no belt anymore.
Cheesey1
Danny Jacobs deserves another relatively safe match up before going into the deep end. I don't mean a tomato can, but nothing too crazy.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Oct 22 2012, 10:27 PM) *
Danny Jacobs deserves another relatively safe match up before going into the deep end. I don't mean a tomato can, but nothing too crazy.

Ishida
Plah
QUOTE (mitukczuk @ Oct 22 2012, 02:07 PM) *
No argument there, Professor. I still stand behind my statement though. Although fighting in the US alone doesn't mean anything, I still think that staying in Russia is not the way to go if you want to make it..especially when you have (used to have) that title around your waist. Sturm's situation was the same, but at least he got fucked over with that De La Hoya bs decision so he had a reason not to do it. Just my two cents.

Anyways, who do you think Danny should fight ?


A match with Andy Lee o Macklin should be good.
Franchize
I think Danny could be a star in boxing. He has a lot of talent. Furthermore, he is probably the most poised Brooklyn fighter I've ever seen. He has tons of charisma and is very well spoken on the mic. He's very personable and obviously has a very inspiring story. I agree thought that he should be brought back gradually. The mere fact that he is fighting is a triumph in itself. Put him in there with a guy like Corey Spinks. Lol Low risk, decent name.
mitukczuk
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 23 2012, 09:18 AM) *
I think Danny could be a star in boxing. He has a lot of talent. Furthermore, he is probably the most poised Brooklyn fighter I've ever seen. He has tons of charisma and is very well spoken on the mic. He's very personable and obviously has a very inspiring story. I agree thought that he should be brought back gradually. The mere fact that he is fighting is a triumph in itself. Put him in there with a guy like Corey Spinks. Lol Low risk, decent name.


Exactly my point, man. Well said!

In one of the post-fight interviews he said himself he wants to take things slow and not rush it. The title will eventually come, I am sure.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 22 2012, 08:55 PM) *
Well pirogs boat might have sailed since he hasn't really done much and he has no belt anymore.


did he get stripped? i know he had issues with his back. hopefully he'll be back.

i know korobov is another guy who just disappeared and looked very promising. he was dealing with injuries as well. they get the better of the best of us...
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 23 2012, 10:18 AM) *
I think Danny could be a star in boxing. He has a lot of talent. Furthermore, he is probably the most poised Brooklyn fighter I've ever seen. He has tons of charisma and is very well spoken on the mic. He's very personable and obviously has a very inspiring story. I agree thought that he should be brought back gradually. The mere fact that he is fighting is a triumph in itself. Put him in there with a guy like Corey Spinks. Lol Low risk, decent name.


i agree with everything but the part about cory spinks. he doesn't deserve the beating danny would put on him.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 23 2012, 01:51 PM) *
i agree with everything but the part about cory spinks. he doesn't deserve the beating danny would put on him.

I'm with you on this one. But even though he wants to take it slow he really needs some stiffer competition so he doesn't get surprised by another pirog

Just read on ring he will be on the cotto undercard. This is great for him, keeping active and maybe if he gets a decent opponent he might get tv exposure.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2012, 04:35 PM) *
I'm with you on this one. But even though he wants to take it slow he really needs some stiffer competition so he doesn't get surprised by another pirog

Just read on ring he will be on the cotto undercard. This is great for him, keeping active and maybe if he gets a decent opponent he might get tv exposure.


nice!!! hopefully they televise his fight this time.
Cshel86
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2012, 05:35 PM) *
he really needs some stiffer competition so he doesn't get surprised by another pirog

Exactly!

He needs to be prepping to avenge that loss.
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