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Basically the titles name here, is Andre Berto a worthy name on a resume to legitimately place you atop the ww division? Berto has looked horrible everytime he steps up his competition yet he has the power/speed to make you cautious. He is better than anyone devon or Bradley have beaten at WW but is he enough to say guerrero is a top contender? Hes coming off a long layoff an injury and a steroid scandal, what do you guys think? A solid opponent or is the ghost just being opportunistic?
daprofessor
i think berto is top 5 in the division. a win over him gives him more credibility. i was impressed when he beat aydin and i thought that was enough to make him a top contender at 147.
Cshel86
I'd be somewhat impressed with Robert. Let's not act like a guy hasn't moved up in weight and whipped Berto's ass before, so I wont be surprised if Robert pulls this one off.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 24 2012, 07:59 PM) *
I'd be somewhat impressed with Robert. Let's not act like a guy hasn't moved up in weight and whipped Berto's ass before, so I wont be surprised if Robert pulls this one off.


victor ortiz is a big dude. not sure how he was making 140 to be honest.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 24 2012, 08:14 PM) *
victor ortiz is a big dude. not sure how he was making 140 to be honest.

Haha me either. But aydin? Aydin was pretty unproven
Gambit808
It did for Ortiz.
checkleft
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 24 2012, 11:48 PM) *
It did for Ortiz.

Honestly I could see how people got amped for ortiz. At that point berto only looked bad against collazo. But after looking really bad in his past three fights against better competition maybe he just is what he is. Add the fact that it was foty worthy probably helps the launching of ortiz as well lol
Franchize
It would give him some sort of legitamacy for opening his mouth at all, but no... he still wouldnt be a top contender. Beating a ONCE budding star who may or may not be cycling off of roids doesn't mean you get to start pulling your dick out and pissing on ppl lol "You need more people." It also depends on how he won. If he destroys Berto that's one thing. If he has a performance like the one versus Aydin, who I think fought him to a draw, then that's really not all that impressive.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2012, 09:44 PM) *
Haha me either. But aydin? Aydin was pretty unproven


unproven but avoided. he was solid.
mgrover
aydin is a single handed fighter am still a fan tongue.gif guy reminds me of me when i first learned to box
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 24 2012, 09:14 PM) *
victor ortiz is a big dude. not sure how he was making 140 to be honest.

Me either, and he was bigger than Berto. The fact that he was new to the weight, just made it sad in Berto's case, though Victor was more than likely that size all along. Ortiz was pulling a Brandon Rios, before he moved up to fight Berto. I remember Ortiz always outweighing his opponents by about 13 or more lbs.

QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 25 2012, 08:52 PM) *
aydin is a single handed fighter am still a fan tongue.gif guy reminds me of me when i first learned to box

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daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 25 2012, 07:52 PM) *
aydin is a single handed fighter am still a fan tongue.gif guy reminds me of me when i first learned to box


speaking of single handed fighters....anyone read up on the guy making his pro debut with just one hand. he was born without the other. unsure.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 25 2012, 08:13 PM) *
Me either, and he was bigger than Berto. The fact that he was new to the weight, just made it sad in Berto's case, though Victor was more than likely that size all along. Ortiz was pulling a Brandon Rios, before he moved up to fight Berto. I remember Ortiz always outweighing his opponents by about 13 or more lbs.


laugh.gif


i've stood next to the dude. i'm 6ft tall...he's not much shorter and is pretty wide. i watched him beat the dog shit out of katsidis in sparring before his fight with casamayor. it was brutal. he's a big dude.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2012, 08:48 PM) *
Basically the titles name here, is Andre Berto a worthy name on a resume to legitimately place you atop the ww division? Berto has looked horrible everytime he steps up his competition yet he has the power/speed to make you cautious. He is better than anyone devon or Bradley have beaten at WW but is he enough to say guerrero is a top contender? Hes coming off a long layoff an injury and a steroid scandal, what do you guys think? A solid opponent or is the ghost just being opportunistic?

A solid opponent with a dash of opportunism. I'm looking forward to this one quite a bit.
checkleft
If he beats berto and most likely doesn't get his big fight would it be wise of him to catch ortiz or josesito off of their losses? I could easily see him losing both of those fights (ortiz could probably ko him) or closely edging them.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 28 2012, 02:01 AM) *
If he beats berto and most likely doesn't get his big fight would it be wise of him to catch ortiz or josesito off of their losses? I could easily see him losing both of those fights (ortiz could probably ko him) or closely edging them.

"If he beats Berto..." My knee-jerk reaction is that he doesn't, but I could be proven wrong. If he does, then the manner in which he does will be telling re. his chances against either Ortiz and/or Lopez.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 25 2012, 09:41 PM) *
speaking of single handed fighters....anyone read up on the guy making his pro debut with just one hand. he was born without the other. unsure.gif

Say what?

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 25 2012, 09:43 PM) *
i've stood next to the dude. i'm 6ft tall...he's not much shorter and is pretty wide. i watched him beat the dog shit out of katsidis in sparring before his fight with casamayor. it was brutal. he's a big dude.

He might be draining to make 147 lol the guy is a wide boxer
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 29 2012, 12:30 AM) *
Say what?


He might be draining to make 147 lol the guy is a wide boxer


busier than a one handed man in a boxing match....

i would guess ortiz walks around at 160. i wouldn't be shocked. when i say wide...he has broad shoulders. no homo. laugh.gif
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 29 2012, 01:14 AM) *
busier than a one handed man in a boxing match....

i would guess ortiz walks around at 160. i wouldn't be shocked. when i say wide...he has broad shoulders. no homo. laugh.gif

I know what you mean. The guy looks like a body builder during camp, probably why he has defensive problems his shoulders are really wide.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 29 2012, 01:51 AM) *
I know what you mean. The guy looks like a body builder during camp, probably why he has defensive problems his shoulders are really wide.


i think his defensive problems exist because he doesn't have anyone that can teach him proper defense. the body building thing is definitely counterproductive to boxing.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 24 2012, 07:48 PM) *
Basically the titles name here, is Andre Berto a worthy name on a resume to legitimately place you atop the ww division? Berto has looked horrible everytime he steps up his competition yet he has the power/speed to make you cautious. He is better than anyone devon or Bradley have beaten at WW but is he enough to say guerrero is a top contender? Hes coming off a long layoff an injury and a steroid scandal, what do you guys think? A solid opponent or is the ghost just being opportunistic?



Yes!

It guaranteed Vic a shot at Floyd so it should do the same for the Ghost should he ask for Floyd if he wins.
checkleft
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Oct 31 2012, 03:02 PM) *
Yes!

It guaranteed Vic a shot at Floyd so it should do the same for the Ghost should he ask for Floyd if he wins.

Good point.

But idk if I said it on this thread or another, in order for people to get excited about that fight vic had to go through a fight of the year and round of the year lol. I honestly don't think guerrero has it in him to go through what berto and vic did...
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 31 2012, 02:59 PM) *
Good point.

But idk if I said it on this thread or another, in order for people to get excited about that fight vic had to go through a fight of the year and round of the year lol. I honestly don't think guerrero has it in him to go through what berto and vic did...


I don't think the Ghost has it either and I think Berto is faster and a stronger puncher than anyone Robert has faced.
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