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BlueMercury
Cheesey1
I like Donaire, but ha, f'ing ha, f'ing ha! Nonito has apparently lost the plot.
flazi
bullshit reasoning and excuses.
Jovi
Lol this is the exact reason i dont like donaire. He's good but dam he isn't good enough to be bragging. He's letting this top rank shit get to his, Nonito has gone "Hollywood".

First off, Donaire you don't even have a perfect record. Rigondeaux is Undefeated, he hasn't as many professional fights so the only thing you can compare is more Wins. But on the flip side to that Rigondeaux has a better KO percentage, So donaire i shake my head on that note.

Second, Rigondeux has a gold medals than you have championship belts bruh, brought it back for his country 2 Olympic games in a row.

Rigondeaux is the real deal while nonito still has potential in my eyes.

He shoulda took the whack no-name fighters to build himself up AFTER he lost to Rigondeaux.
Cheesey1
Agreed with everyone.

I don't know why Rigondeaux re-signed with TR. They're playing him. The guy is such a talent. Consumate amateur and pro.
mgrover
id be happy to say Donaire by KO here and now.
checkleft
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 17 2012, 05:18 PM) *
Agreed with everyone.

I don't know why Rigondeaux re-signed with TR. They're playing him. The guy is such a talent. Consumate amateur and pro.



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QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 17 2012, 07:37 PM) *
id be happy to say Donaire by KO here and now.

This too but I want to see it, donaire will have trouble with Rigo.

P.s I would have loved to see Rigo break mares dirty ass nose with one of those beautiful counter rights if his. Cheating ass bastard
Cheesey1
Rigondeaux is literally begging for this fight. Why doesn't Donaire just let him have it? If Donaire's so superior then it should be a wrap. There are no obstacles. Same promoter, same division. Done and dusted, no?

Not that he care's but Donaire's losing beaucoup points.
mgrover
QUOTE (Jovi @ Nov 17 2012, 08:35 PM) *
Lol this is the exact reason i dont like donaire. He's good but dam he isn't good enough to be bragging. He's letting this top rank shit get to his, Nonito has gone "Hollywood".

First off, Donaire you don't even have a perfect record. Rigondeaux is Undefeated, he hasn't as many professional fights so the only thing you can compare is more Wins. But on the flip side to that Rigondeaux has a better KO percentage, So donaire i shake my head on that note.

Second, Rigondeux has a gold medals than you have championship belts bruh, brought it back for his country 2 Olympic games in a row.

Rigondeaux is the real deal while nonito still has potential in my eyes.

He shoulda took the whack no-name fighters to build himself up AFTER he lost to Rigondeaux.


if you really want to look at pointless statistics am going to say Donaire has more KOs than Rigondeaux has fights...


On the other hand of it all, Rigondeaux was caught by a nice shot in his last fight, shows he can be hurt, and who better to do it than Donaire.
daprofessor
donaire is showing me that he is scared of rigondeaux more and more when his name is mentioned. the excuses he gives are pathetic. 2 time gold medalist doesn't deserve a shot at u? u had the same extensive amateur career!? i don't recall u being an olympian. 400 fights with 12 losses isn't worthy??? the more he talks...the less i like him.

if i had to choose between mares and rigondeaux...i'd avoid him at all cost. mares is made to order for donaire. rigondeaux is not.
Cshel86
C'mon Donaire, it's not you haven't fought a long string of no-hopers as of late. You tellin' me that wont fight Rigondeaux? Fuck it, since Floyd is catching all of this flack for legitimately not fighting Manny, then ANY other fighter that I feel is avoiding another, is getting called out.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 18 2012, 10:33 PM) *
C'mon Donaire, it's not you haven't fought a long string of no-hopers as of late. You tellin' me that wont fight Rigondeaux? Fuck it, since Floyd is catching all of this flack for legitimately not fighting Manny, then ANY other fighter that I feel is avoiding another, is getting called out.

Definitely. Very disingenuous by Donaire. So Arce and the other guys he's fought are on his level and Rigondeaux isn't?
bnoles4life
I need a bigger Rigo sample to say one way or the other. **no homo**
Cshel86
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Nov 19 2012, 12:32 AM) *
Definitely. Very disingenuous by Donaire. So Arce and the other guys he's fought are on his level and Rigondeaux isn't?

Tell me about it. I think Donaire just doesn't want any unknown, hungry fighters, possibly upsetting him.

To be honest, as much as I cant stand Donaire, I say that he stops Rigondeaux. If you haven't seen the Rigo/Marroquin fight from this past September, then check it out completely. Donaire should've been all over a Rigo fight after that.
mgrover
i dont understand why donaire is being a bitch, its a fight thats all his am sure, i mean his last fight he did nothing too different, he just stopped being reckless and learned some patience at the cost of the crowd them agaim its always hard to follow a slugfest.
Franchize
My only issue with saying someone "isn't worthy of fighting you" is...the next person you fight better be. For instance Bradley turned down Khan and others to fight Casamayor...which was a bitch made move...but then he eventually got Manny. Whereas a Robert Gayrerro turned down a bunch of good fights, and eventually got a Berto fight which isn't much bigger than the fights he turned down. Donaire makes you go "wait what?" everytime his fights are announced.
checkleft
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 20 2012, 09:00 AM) *
My only issue with saying someone "isn't worthy of fighting you" is...the next person you fight better be. For instance Bradley turned down Khan and others to fight Casamayor...which was a bitch made move...but then he eventually got Manny. Whereas a Robert Gayrerro turned down a bunch of good fights, and eventually got a Berto fight which isn't much bigger than the fights he turned down. Donaire makes you go "wait what?" everytime his fights are announced.

You put it perfectly.

And guerrero f'd up, betcha he's regretting not fighting maidana after how he looked against devon his first fight at 147. Now that would have been a solid win for him unlike his aydin W.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 20 2012, 10:00 AM) *
My only issue with saying someone "isn't worthy of fighting you" is...the next person you fight better be. For instance Bradley turned down Khan and others to fight Casamayor...which was a bitch made move...but then he eventually got Manny. Whereas a Robert Gayrerro turned down a bunch of good fights, and eventually got a Berto fight which isn't much bigger than the fights he turned down. Donaire makes you go "wait what?" everytime his fights are announced.


you're not looking at the big picture in regards to bradley and guerrero. i never faulted him for passing on khan because he wanted out of his contract and was gunning for pac. only thing bigger than that is floyd. everything else is a step sideways or backwards.

same with guerrero...he wants floyd. every step he has taken has been towards floyd. i can't fault him for that. berto ain't a chump...neither was his last opponent. i can't fault the man for aiming high.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 20 2012, 11:42 AM) *
You put it perfectly.

And guerrero f'd up, betcha he's regretting not fighting maidana after how he looked against devon his first fight at 147. Now that would have been a solid win for him unlike his aydin W.


he had a shoulder injury. these things happen. like when berto tore his bicep in preparation for ortiz...it's part of the game.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 20 2012, 03:05 PM) *
he had a shoulder injury. these things happen. like when berto tore his bicep in preparation for ortiz...it's part of the game.

True but there's been some speculation he said that just to get out of the fight. As for berto I'm sure his roid use had something to do with his injury, I mean the guy was huge to begin with why the hell get roided up? His bicep was bound to explode lol
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 20 2012, 04:27 PM) *
True but there's been some speculation he said that just to get out of the fight. As for berto I'm sure his roid use had something to do with his injury, I mean the guy was huge to begin with why the hell get roided up? His bicep was bound to explode lol


he had an operation. u don't have operations to get out of fights.

as for berto's injury....could be...he did test positive.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Nov 19 2012, 08:18 PM) *
i dont understand why donaire is being a bitch, its a fight thats all his am sure, i mean his last fight he did nothing too different, he just stopped being reckless and learned some patience at the cost of the crowd them agaim its always hard to follow a slugfest.

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I just couldn't finish reading past this sentence!
Franchize
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 20 2012, 03:03 PM) *
you're not looking at the big picture in regards to bradley and guerrero. i never faulted him for passing on khan because he wanted out of his contract and was gunning for pac. only thing bigger than that is floyd. everything else is a step sideways or backwards.

same with guerrero...he wants floyd. every step he has taken has been towards floyd. i can't fault him for that. berto ain't a chump...neither was his last opponent. i can't fault the man for aiming high.


Yea but Guerrero aiming for Floyd is like ME aiming for Floyd. At some point you have to know your worth. I'm pretty sure there's a dude out there right now who think he can beat LeBron. Now LeBron may take a few ppl up on their challenges but at some point you have to be worth it. Whether Salido's roids had anything to do with it or not, Guerrero got schooled. You're right. Aydin isnt a chump but he BARELY beat Aydin (I had it a draw). You think Floyd give a flying fuck about that belt or Aydin? He ducked Paulie. He said no to a Judah fight before they could even negotiate. Reportedly, he said the same about a Matthysse fight too. He pulled out of the Maidana fight and that just disappeared. "My homie Strick told me finish your breakfast." You gotta fill out the Durex before you start reaching for Magnums lol If he fought Paulie, casual fans would be saying "Who the fuck is this big eared guy Paulie's fighting?" It seems like more people had a problem with Khan calling Floyd out than Guerrero. Khan's resume' is WAY better than his. I see the big picture, but Guerrero is stll drawing with crayola at this point.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 21 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Yea but Guerrero aiming for Floyd is like ME aiming for Floyd. At some point you have to know your worth. I'm pretty sure there's a dude out there right now who think he can beat LeBron. Now LeBron may take a few ppl up on their challenges but at some point you have to be worth it. Whether Salido's roids had anything to do with it or not, Guerrero got schooled. You're right. Aydin isnt a chump but he BARELY beat Aydin (I had it a draw). You think Floyd give a flying fuck about that belt or Aydin? He ducked Paulie. He said no to a Judah fight before they could even negotiate. Reportedly, he said the same about a Matthysse fight too. He pulled out of the Maidana fight and that just disappeared. "My homie Strick told me finish your breakfast." You gotta fill out the Durex before you start reaching for Magnums lol If he fought Paulie, casual fans would be saying "Who the fuck is this big eared guy Paulie's fighting?" It seems like more people had a problem with Khan calling Floyd out than Guerrero. Khan's resume' is WAY better than his. I see the big picture, but Guerrero is stll drawing with crayola at this point.


if u had a belt at more than one weight class...i'd agree with u. laugh.gif

losing to salido...roids or not...is not shameful. dude is a beast. as for him not facing paulie, judah or maidana....it happens. i wanted floyd to fight cotto and hatton at 140. he waited til both were shop worn to face them. sometimes the fighters we like do that. boxing is a business. i get it. he's picking his battles wisely. when it's all said and done...he may be in a better position than the guys u mentioned if he can play his cards right. i can't fault him for that. a lot of ppl bitched and moaned when floyd passed up on cotto, margarito and williams to try and get that delahoya fight. i wanted one of those fights to happen too....but i get it. floyd had bigger plans. i can't shit on guerrero for trying to do the same. it's his career....he and his ppl have to maximize their money. the same can be said for a lot of fighters. as i type this....donaire immediately comes to mind. laugh.gif
checkleft
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 21 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Yea but Guerrero aiming for Floyd is like ME aiming for Floyd. At some point you have to know your worth. I'm pretty sure there's a dude out there right now who think he can beat LeBron. Now LeBron may take a few ppl up on their challenges but at some point you have to be worth it. Whether Salido's roids had anything to do with it or not, Guerrero got schooled. You're right. Aydin isnt a chump but he BARELY beat Aydin (I had it a draw). You think Floyd give a flying fuck about that belt or Aydin? He ducked Paulie. He said no to a Judah fight before they could even negotiate. Reportedly, he said the same about a Matthysse fight too. He pulled out of the Maidana fight and that just disappeared. "My homie Strick told me finish your breakfast." You gotta fill out the Durex before you start reaching for Magnums lol If he fought Paulie, casual fans would be saying "Who the fuck is this big eared guy Paulie's fighting?" It seems like more people had a problem with Khan calling Floyd out than Guerrero. Khan's resume' is WAY better than his. I see the big picture, but Guerrero is stll drawing with crayola at this point.

Very valid point..
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 21 2012, 03:27 PM) *
Very valid point..


valid prior to his last two losses. especially his last one.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 21 2012, 01:02 PM) *
if u had a belt at more than one weight class...i'd agree with u. laugh.gif

losing to salido...roids or not...is not shameful. dude is a beast. as for him not facing paulie, judah or maidana....it happens. i wanted floyd to fight cotto and hatton at 140. he waited til both were shop worn to face them. sometimes the fighters we like do that. boxing is a business. i get it. he's picking his battles wisely. when it's all said and done...he may be in a better position than the guys u mentioned if he can play his cards right. i can't fault him for that. a lot of ppl bitched and moaned when floyd passed up on cotto, margarito and williams to try and get that delahoya fight. i wanted one of those fights to happen too....but i get it. floyd had bigger plans. i can't shit on guerrero for trying to do the same. it's his career....he and his ppl have to maximize their money. the same can be said for a lot of fighters. as i type this....donaire immediately comes to mind. laugh.gif

Ha! I agree with most of your points, even the point of Floyd passing on Cotto, Margarito, and Williams, in order to land the Oscar fight. Floyd went for the big fish, won the fight, and we all had to see Cotto, Margarito, and Williams lose to B-level fighters within a year of Floyd's win over Oscar.

Had Floyd fought Cotto and Hatton at 140....we'd never know how far those guys would've gone. Gladly, those fights didn't happen at 140, and they were much appreciated at the times that they came.

As for Robert, Saturday will tell us all that we need to know...either he loses to Berto and we see that he isn't ready for WW, or Berto once again gets fleeced by a guy moving up in weight and Robert will have made his mark.

I will openly admit (as if my hate posts haven't made it clear), I couldn't STAND Guerrero during his begging session for big fights...it was a bit embarrassing on his part (on a couple of occasions). They Aydin fight didn't show me much, I was just glad that he was fighting again.

He has SEVERAL opponents at 140, but chose to move up to 147. I just hope that he makes the most of this opportunity this weekend, so that somebody will look to give him a big shot. At his rank in the boxing world, the big names have to be impressed with you...simply calling them out, isn't enough.
Musashi100
he ducking.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 21 2012, 03:33 PM) *
valid prior to his last two losses. especially his last one.

Even in his last two fights he has lost to better fighters than guerreros ever fought. It doesn't help guerreros case that he's been extremely inactive and honestly not too impressive in any of his fights. He should have definitely fought more, maybe work his way up the divisions with more notable opponents.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 22 2012, 03:54 AM) *
Even in his last two fights he has lost to better fighters than guerreros ever fought. It doesn't help guerreros case that he's been extremely inactive and honestly not too impressive in any of his fights. He should have definitely fought more, maybe work his way up the divisions with more notable opponents.


when u consider the inactivity....him jumping up 2 weight divisions and beating an opponent who was ranked number 1 and ducked by many over the last 2 years....i was impressed with his last victory.
Franchize
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 21 2012, 01:02 PM) *
if u had a belt at more than one weight class...i'd agree with u. laugh.gif

losing to salido...roids or not...is not shameful. dude is a beast. as for him not facing paulie, judah or maidana....it happens. i wanted floyd to fight cotto and hatton at 140. he waited til both were shop worn to face them. sometimes the fighters we like do that. boxing is a business. i get it. he's picking his battles wisely. when it's all said and done...he may be in a better position than the guys u mentioned if he can play his cards right. i can't fault him for that. a lot of ppl bitched and moaned when floyd passed up on cotto, margarito and williams to try and get that delahoya fight. i wanted one of those fights to happen too....but i get it. floyd had bigger plans. i can't shit on guerrero for trying to do the same. it's his career....he and his ppl have to maximize their money. the same can be said for a lot of fighters. as i type this....donaire immediately comes to mind. laugh.gif


Hatton was undefeated and from what I hear, Cotto's people didn't want Floyd crushing their buzz ever sicne the Gatti fight. (Maybe it was just Arum) If you remember, Cotto was ringside as was Hatton looking very shook. Furthermore, even back THEN, Floyd's resume' was larger than Guerrero's. He'd beaten an undefeated Corrales, Chop Chop, Manfredy, Augustus (Burton), Sharmba Mitchell, Castillo twice, Genaro Hernandez and killed the buzz around Bruseles who was supposed to be push Cotto as the best Puerto Rican fighter in the world.

I applaud him moving up and getting a win but BARELY beating Aydin doesn't warrant him grabbing his crotch like he's got the 10 footer.

I too don't hate on a gy trying to get their money, but he knew damn well he wasn't getting that Mayweather fight anytime soon. He could have fought Maidana and Paulie in the meantime. If you cant beat them, you have no shot at beating Floyd anyway, whereas at least with Bradley, you could conceivably lose to Khan but still beat Manny.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 24 2012, 01:38 PM) *
Hatton was undefeated and from what I hear, Cotto's people didn't want Floyd crushing their buzz ever sicne the Gatti fight. (Maybe it was just Arum) If you remember, Cotto was ringside as was Hatton looking very shook. Furthermore, even back THEN, Floyd's resume' was larger than Guerrero's. He'd beaten an undefeated Corrales, Chop Chop, Manfredy, Augustus (Burton), Sharmba Mitchell, Castillo twice, Genaro Hernandez and killed the buzz around Bruseles who was supposed to be push Cotto as the best Puerto Rican fighter in the world.

I applaud him moving up and getting a win but BARELY beating Aydin doesn't warrant him grabbing his crotch like he's got the 10 footer.

I too don't hate on a gy trying to get their money, but he knew damn well he wasn't getting that Mayweather fight anytime soon. He could have fought Maidana and Paulie in the meantime. If you cant beat them, you have no shot at beating Floyd anyway, whereas at least with Bradley, you could conceivably lose to Khan but still beat Manny.


that's not how i recall it. he looked more unimpressed than anything. whatever the case....floyd called cotto a regional fighter and chose to take a long break instead of face him. i'm sure arum had everything to do with that. if brusselles got a shot at floyd....then guerrero is more than deserving.
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