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Gambit808
Seth Mitchell was the stronger fighter but not the smarter fighter. I think he should do what Lennox Lewis did after his KO loss to Rahman & instantly give it another shot instead of sitting on this fight and avoiding.
Cshel86
Avoid him like a pastor avoids a prostitute. Wait a minute...do they?
Gambit808
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:30 PM) *
Avoid him like a pastor avoids a prostitute. Wait a minute...do they?

I'd rather them prefer hoes than little boys if they do choose SMH. Seth Mitchell just thought NFL recruiters was at the fight when he got his chin checked. He can do better. Looked like he thought he could over power and walk through those shots and found out what separates the Heavyweight Division from others I think.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 21 2012, 11:00 PM) *
I'd rather them prefer hoes than little boys if they do choose SMH. Seth Mitchell just thought NFL recruiters was at the fight when he got his chin checked. He can do better. Looked like he thought he could over power and walk through those shots and found out what separates the Heavyweight Division from others I think.

Amen re. the pastors. Re. Mitchell, why not try the rematch. Remember what a jab is and learn from the counter punches that he ate in the first (Banks landed some sneaky left hands as Mitchell was rushing in) and of course the damage done in the second.
BoxingFan86
Seth just looked sloppy in that fight. No discipline, no ring intelligence, nothin'. Personally, I think he was intimidated by Banks' (trainin') background. As far as a rematch goes, hell no. Not so soon, anyway. He should wait 'til he's improved as a boxer 1st, then he should try again.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (BoxingFan86 @ Nov 23 2012, 12:17 PM) *
Seth just looked sloppy in that fight. No discipline, no ring intelligence, nothin'. Personally, I think he was intimidated by Banks' (trainin') background. As far as a rematch goes, hell no. Not so soon, anyway. He should wait 'til he's improved as a boxer 1st, then he should try again.

Mitchell definitely looked intimidated when they entered the ring.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 22 2012, 12:00 AM) *
I'd rather them prefer hoes than little boys if they do choose SMH. Seth Mitchell just thought NFL recruiters was at the fight when he got his chin checked. He can do better. Looked like he thought he could over power and walk through those shots and found out what separates the Heavyweight Division from others I think.


sad part...banks is really a cruiserweight. laugh.gif

i think he needs to go back to school. his ppl need to quiet all the talk about the klitschkos....and he needs to learn his craft. he's got a long way to go. the good news....he has plenty to work with as an athlete.
BigFightFan
I think Seth gets touched in every fight
Franchize
I say rematch. If he loses he shouldnt be fighting professionally anyway so why not?
hitman
no disrespect to banks. he's a true pro. but if mitchell can't beat him, then he really has no future. he needs to avenge that. but my guess is they will avoid it. build up some more wins, pass it off as a fluke, and then he'll get knocked out by somebody else.
Gambit808
And now we have the immediate rematch Feb. 16th according to Boxingscene. This is a 50/50 fight to me, and like I said, Seth is the stronger fighter as he showed In the 1st fight, but he's gonna have to be more than that if he's even wants to think of fighting at the Elite level. Banks pulled off the upset but going to roll the dice again and go with Mitchell for the rematch.
Cshel86
If Seth wants to pull a Shane Mosley and exercise the immediate rematch after an initial loss, then hats off to him. Sad thing is, it wasn't like Seth had an off-night, the difference in skill and experience was a wide one.

Hopefully he corrects his mistakes, defense being one of them. All of the reaching and clinching at the waist is a serial sin in the sport...surely he's learned his lesson.

VJones
So true. He's such a marketable guy....shame about his chin and lack of defense. If they can work on defensive strategy in the next 2 months...and if he can refrain from getting hit in the face....lol

No, seriously, I'm a fan of Seth's so I hope he can defeat Jonathan this time around and give us a few impressive fights in the future. But that loss put a big damper on my hopes for him as a champion. But I'm not counting him out just yet. I'll be interested to see if he shows improvement.
Gambit808
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 12 2012, 03:17 PM) *
If Seth wants to pull a Shane Mosley and exercise the immediate rematch after an initial loss, then hats off to him. Sad thing is, it wasn't like Seth had an off-night, the difference in skill and experience was a wide one.

Hopefully he corrects his mistakes, defense being one of them. All of the reaching and clinching at the waist is a serial sin in the sport...surely he's learned his lesson.

Absolutely. It's hard to see a guy like Mitchell who already is a late bloomer to begin with in the sport, improve on everything so quick in between fights especially after a TKO loss, but he certainly needs to improve on the obvious which is Defense and Surviving. I think for the most part he's gonna go back out there looking to erase what happend to him, and go for a KO of his own, because theres no doubt that he CAN hurt Banks. How/if he does that remains to be seen.
Cshel86
QUOTE (VJones @ Dec 12 2012, 03:31 PM) *
So true. He's such a marketable guy....shame about his chin and lack of defense. If they can work on defensive strategy in the next 2 months...and if he can refrain from getting hit in the face....lol

No, seriously, I'm a fan of Seth's so I hope he can defeat Jonathan this time around and give us a few impressive fights in the future. But that loss put a big damper on my hopes for him as a champion. But I'm not counting him out just yet. I'll be interested to see if he shows improvement.

So true. The writing was on the wall in the Witherspoon fight. Hopefully he can pull an Amir Khan and rack up some meaningful victories...before getting knocked out again.

QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 12 2012, 04:27 PM) *
Absolutely. It's hard to see a guy like Mitchell who already is a late bloomer to begin with in the sport, improve on everything so quick in between fights especially after a TKO loss, but he certainly needs to improve on the obvious which is Defense and Surviving. I think for the most part he's gonna go back out there looking to erase what happend to him, and go for a KO of his own, because theres no doubt that he CAN hurt Banks. How/if he does that remains to be seen.

He must be thinking of going balls to wall and getting Banks outta there. No way in hell he hangs around for 12 rounds against a guy who's been boxing for the better part of 16 years...I just cant see it. If he gets his clock cleaned again, then he can forget it. You're right, he CAN hurt Banks (as we saw in the first fight)...just hoping that he can follow up.

If he happens to stop Banks this time around, then he can fight some soft touches and make some more money...with a possible rubber match looming. In the meantime, though he'd be insulting our intelligence, he can play the "I had an off-night" card when they bring up the first fight.
VJones
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 13 2012, 11:21 PM) *
So true. The writing was on the wall in the Witherspoon fight. Hopefully he can pull an Amir Khan and rack up some meaningful victories...before getting knocked out again.


He must be thinking of going balls to wall and getting Banks outta there. No way in hell he hangs around for 12 rounds against a guy who's been boxing for the better part of 16 years...I just cant see it. If he gets his clock cleaned again, then he can forget it. You're right, he CAN hurt Banks (as we saw in the first fight)...just hoping that he can follow up.

If he happens to stop Banks this time around, then he can fight some soft touches and make some more money...with a possible rubber match looming. In the meantime, though he'd be insulting our intelligence, he can play the "I had an off-night" card when they bring up the first fight.


Yep, he definitely has to knock Banks out! Oh lord, I almost forgot about the Witherspoon fight...yeah he showed some chininess in that one. Maybe I was just trying to forget, because I wanna root for the guy so badly! =) But yeah, there will be no dethroning of the Klitchkos by that fella. Dream's over. I'm done!

It's funny because in both the Witherspoon fight and with Banks, even though I was rooting for Mitchell, I was kinda okay with a win from the other guys because they had good stories. I had seen Witherspoon on ESPN and he was sloppy and overweight, but he got with (I think, Virgil Hunter) and had changed his life and habits and he looked fairly good and I was actually enjoying him in there a bit.

And then with Banks...with Manny Stewart passing...I was kinda secretly good with Banks winning.

Cshel86
QUOTE (VJones @ Dec 13 2012, 10:43 PM) *
Yep, he definitely has to knock Banks out! Oh lord, I almost forgot about the Witherspoon fight...yeah he showed some chininess in that one. Maybe I was just trying to forget, because I wanna root for the guy so badly! =) But yeah, there will be no dethroning of the Klitchkos by that fella. Dream's over. I'm done!

It's funny because in both the Witherspoon fight and with Banks, even though I was rooting for Mitchell, I was kinda okay with a win from the other guys because they had good stories. I had seen Witherspoon on ESPN and he was sloppy and overweight, but he got with (I think, Virgil Hunter) and had changed his life and habits and he looked fairly good and I was actually enjoying him in there a bit.

And then with Banks...with Manny Stewart passing...I was kinda secretly good with Banks winning.

I agree. I hope he went straight to the gym the morning after the Banks fight, and worked on his defense. Honestly, I felt like the stage was a bit too big for him on the Broner card...that's just my personal reservation that I have no clue as where to start in regards to explaining it. laugh.gif

Had no idea about Witherspoon's life or bad habits...I gotta check that out. You got a link to it?
VJones
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 14 2012, 12:02 AM) *
I agree. I hope he went straight to the gym the morning after the Banks fight, and worked on his defense. Honestly, I felt like the stage was a bit too big for him on the Broner card...that's just my personal reservation that I have no clue as where to start in regards to explaining it. laugh.gif

Had no idea about Witherspoon's life or bad habits...I gotta check that out. You got a link to it?


I don't...but I'll look around and if I find it, I'll post.

Oh...and I know what you mean about the "the stage being too big". Remember how much emotion he had after the Witherspoon win. He cried, if you recall. I don't think it was solely because of the near calamity and triumph...I think nerves played heavily in that fight and the next. I think the pressure as he's climbed may be too much for his personality. People have placed so much expectation on him. "Next Great American Heavy-weight". Perhaps the weight of it is in fact too heavy. (Okay, couldn't help myself)
daprofessor
i hate to rain on the party...but the things mitchell needs to learn cannot happen with his current coach. at this point...he's a one trick pony who needs to go back to the drawing board and relay his foundation. the only way he secures some meaningful victories "like amir khan" at this point is if he is carefully matched "like amir khan." khan made small changes...but stopped growing/changing under roach. mitchell seriously needs to tear it all down and start over again with someone more knowledgeable. i hate to shit on his current coach like this...but i think bashir got it right in that recent interview.
Musashi100
seth needs this rematch to redeem himself as a true heavyweight fighter for fans to watch. if he decides to move on an not fight banks anymore than im not really going to be interested in seth anymore
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