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Gambit808
I guess this is Canelo's Way of hinting at who he wants his next opponent to be on May 4th. The obvious choice being Cotto, but last time Canelo was publicly reported ringside for a fight in which included the fighter he intended on facing, that fighter was upset, thus him having to settle with the lesser name winner (hint, hint), so Cotto better watch it. This also fuels the rumor of Mayweather being in talk with GBP for a fight with Guerrero, while Sergio Martinez is looking to make his ring return in his home country of Argentina, so all in all Canelo may have no choice but to choose the winner of Cotto-Trout.
Cshel86
Fuck him!
p4pcrown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:24 AM) *
Fuck him!

Lol
daprofessor
if i'm cotto or trout...i tell canelo to go fuck himself.
Cshel86
Shouldn't Cotto be sitting ringside for Canelo vs Trout, and awaiting the winner? Backwards, right?
Marcus
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 02:01 PM) *
if i'm cotto or trout...i tell canelo to go fuck himself.

Trout would be an idiot to say that. Canelo would be his second biggest payday, another world title, and a crack at exposing him.
Marcus
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:59 PM) *
Shouldn't Cotto be sitting ringside for Canelo vs Trout, and awaiting the winner? Backwards, right?

SMH lmao this boxing gam is fucked up.
You know it is when you have Lara vs Martirosyan fighting for Canelo, and Trout vs Cotto for Canelo.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 09:59 PM) *
Shouldn't Cotto be sitting ringside for Canelo vs Trout, and awaiting the winner? Backwards, right?


yes and yes.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 27 2012, 10:02 PM) *
Trout would be an idiot to say that. Canelo would be his second biggest payday, another world title, and a crack at exposing him.


if i'm trout...clear out the division until canelo has no choice but to face u. at this point...if he faces canelo, he'll have to yield to canelo's demands. more than likely, he'll face him in california will he'll have to deal with canelo and a biased ref and judges. if he gets a few more pieces to the puzzle those will be bargaining chips.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Marcus @ Nov 27 2012, 09:03 PM) *
SMH lmao this boxing gam is fucked up.
You know it is when you have Lara vs Martirosyan fighting for Canelo, and Trout vs Cotto for Canelo.

I know, right? Now Canelo gets to sit back with his feet up, while all of the formidable opponents beat tha hell out of each other. This gives him just enough room to play the vulture role and pick the loser/easier fight.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:15 PM) *
I know, right? Now Canelo gets to sit back with his feet up, while all of the formidable opponents beat tha hell out of each other. This gives him just enough room to play the vulture role and pick the loser/easier fight.


would it have been more respectable if he retired briefly? unsure.gif laugh.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 09:09 PM) *
at this point...if he faces canelo, he'll have to yield to canelo's demands. more than likely, he'll face him in california will he'll have to deal with canelo and a biased ref and judges.

Aw c'mon Professor, you've got it ALL wrong...you're being too nice. Canelo drags Trout down to Mexico and avenges the ass kickin' that his brother got. Canelo will be up 3 rounds before the first bell sounds, and Suliaman will be the back-up referee just in case the actual ref has a "carefully planned" heart condition in the mid rounds. It's been planned out sir...drama in Mexico!

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 09:18 PM) *
would it have been more respectable if he retired briefly? unsure.gif laugh.gif

He could just go away for good...I wont cry about it. laugh.gif

Nah really, first GBP says that they're "moving him along slowly", all the while, we have to see worthy opponents fight each other while a spoiled untested brat gets to sit back and watch them soften each other up. THEN he slides in and makes his move...which is always a weak one. Im torn between calling him and GBP, either weasels or opportunists....
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:21 PM) *
Aw c'mon Professor, you've got it ALL wrong...you're being too nice. Canelo drags Trout down to Mexico and avenges the ass kickin' that his brother got. Canelo will be up 3 rounds before the first bell sounds, and Suliaman will be the back-up referee just in case the actual ref has a "carefully planned" heart condition in the mid rounds. It's been planned out sir...drama in Mexico!


suliaman will do this all to prove that the wbc is fine and upstanding and supports its' champions no matter what. then he'll demand that both fighters give up their trunks, gloves and wraps to sell on ebay. the proceeds will go to feed starving children in africa. (side note..."feed starving children in africa" is the name of the slush bank account that suliaman uses for his personal trips and endeavors) laugh.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 09:25 PM) *
suliaman will do this all to prove that the wbc is fine and upstanding and supports its' champions no matter what. then he'll demand that both fighters give up their trunks, gloves and wraps to sell on ebay. the proceeds will go to feed starving children in africa. (side note..."feed starving children in africa" is the name of the slush bank account that suliaman uses for his personal trips and endeavors) laugh.gif

Tell me about it! He'll find some weird way to put a twist on his shenanigans...as always. That little offshore account of his, that he uses to "feed the starving children"...what can I say about that?

He just uses that money to fund his barrage of beautiful Hispanic women..Corona girls, perhaps? Dude is the Mexican Hugh Hefner. Too bad he takes pride in ruining boxing from time to time. LOL
Gambit808
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:24 AM) *
Fuck him!

Lol damn Cshel, u really not sold on em yet huh?

I gotta say though having to settle for less, he has been making a push for tough fights this whole year, ready or not. U don't think so?
Gambit808
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 02:01 PM) *
if i'm cotto or trout...i tell canelo to go fuck himself.

Cotto knows Canelo's a money maker for GB & if he believes he's the superior, it should be easy money. Would u ignore someone who beat up your brother lol
Gambit808
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:59 PM) *
Shouldn't Cotto be sitting ringside for Canelo vs Trout, and awaiting the winner? Backwards, right?

Canelo is not a Money maker like Cotto. At this point, we know Canelo is on the come up, while Cotto can pick and choose whoever to fight and still make a good profit from it. Canelo on the other hand, is in it for fights that carry a buzz and build a profit. Though Trout is a threatening opponent, nobody knows him, in fact, more people knew Lopez than Trout because of that upset, which is why he chose him. We know money talks in this business.
Gambit808
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 27 2012, 09:18 PM) *
would it have been more respectable if he retired briefly? unsure.gif laugh.gif

Lol
Franchize
Oh how I would love to see a Canelo vs. Cotto fight!
Cshel86
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:13 PM) *
Canelo is not a Money maker like Cotto. At this point, we know Canelo is on the come up, while Cotto can pick and choose whoever to fight and still make a good profit from it. Canelo on the other hand, is in it for fights that carry a buzz and build a profit. Though Trout is a threatening opponent, nobody knows him, in fact, more people knew Lopez than Trout because of that upset, which is why he chose him. We know money talks in this business.

Exactly! Can can pick and choose whoever he wants to fight (especially for a payday), so why in the world is he fighting a younger, stronger, Trout, in a high risk-low reward fight, when Canelo should be fighting Trout? Weird. Money does talk in this business...that's why us boxing fans have to witness this tomfoolery! laugh.gif

QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 28 2012, 09:37 AM) *
Oh how I would love to see a Canelo vs. Cotto fight!

I would too, but Canelo shouldn't be sitting back and taking easy fights, while the money man is still grinding it out with hard opponents that the young buck should be fighting for experience. So I'm guessing that Canelo will step up and fight the loser of Cotto/Trout, which will be Cotto. Either that, or Cotto will get softened up in the Trout fight, and still get the W. cool.gif
sduck
damn...give Canelo a chance. Why put Cotto above Canelo? Cotto has had his shot in the spotlight, and couldn't top it. Canelo is a potential star. Either one, Cotto or Trout is a credible name for Canelo, would be some of the best names on his resume so far... especially Cotto.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:38 PM) *
Tell me about it! He'll find some weird way to put a twist on his shenanigans...as always. That little offshore account of his, that he uses to "feed the starving children"...what can I say about that?

He just uses that money to fund his barrage of beautiful Hispanic women..Corona girls, perhaps? Dude is the Mexican Hugh Hefner. Too bad he takes pride in ruining boxing from time to time. LOL


all those ass implants, breast implants, capped teeth and lipo are expensive! it's for a good cause! laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 28 2012, 10:37 AM) *
Oh how I would love to see a Canelo vs. Cotto fight!


gbp is hoping that the mayweather fight and the trout fight will take enough out of him to guarantee victory for the ginger.
daprofessor
QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 02:08 PM) *
damn...give Canelo a chance. Why put Cotto above Canelo? Cotto has had his shot in the spotlight, and couldn't top it. Canelo is a potential star. Either one, Cotto or Trout is a credible name for Canelo, would be some of the best names on his resume so far... especially Cotto.


umm...because of experience and actual accomplishment. this isn't the nba or nfl where u get respect for potential. u actually have to accomplish something. canelo is catching shit because he had an opportunity to fight him instead of josesito who came up 2 weight classes to fight him. canelo was sitting ringside when trout fought the dominican kid at homedepot. so now...after cotto and trout mix it up...canelo gets the diminished winner? they should both tell him to kick rocks.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 01:26 PM) *
all those ass implants, breast implants, capped teeth and lipo are expensive! it's for a good cause! laugh.gif

You know what Professor...you're actually onto something here. Most of these Corona girls have had some unusually big asses over the past few months...so all signs are pointing to implants.

Ha! That's it! Thank you Sulaiman, for your contribution to boxing! With all of this other nonsense going on (some of which he provides), he's actually looking out for us viewers who don't mind seeing some eye candy at fights!

He gets a few points from me, for that contribution alone.
sduck
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 28 2012, 01:32 PM) *
umm...because of experience and actual accomplishment. this isn't the nba or nfl where u get respect for potential. u actually have to accomplish something. canelo is catching shit because he had an opportunity to fight him instead of josesito who came up 2 weight classes to fight him. canelo was sitting ringside when trout fought the dominican kid at homedepot. so now...after cotto and trout mix it up...canelo gets the diminished winner? they should both tell him to kick rocks.

Well of course. I'm just saying like why put Cotto so highly important as if he has more significance in the future? Cotto has already reached his peak in star potential and is more-likely near retirement. Canelo is still rising potential, so why overshadow him?
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Nov 27 2012, 03:24 AM) *
I guess this is Canelo's Way of hinting at who he wants his next opponent to be on May 4th. The obvious choice being Cotto, but last time Canelo was publicly reported ringside for a fight in which included the fighter he intended on facing, that fighter was upset, thus him having to settle with the lesser name winner (hint, hint), so Cotto better watch it. This also fuels the rumor of Mayweather being in talk with GBP for a fight with Guerrero, while Sergio Martinez is looking to make his ring return in his home country of Argentina, so all in all Canelo may have no choice but to choose the winner of Cotto-Trout.



I agree that Canelo wants Cotto more for the obvious reasons (bigger name, shorter, older and slower opponent plus he isn't a SP) but I think many people may be leaning towards Miguel a little too much and Trout may just be the man to throw a monkey into the wrench and wreck Cinnamon's plans.

I'd love to see Canelo vs Cotto but I wouldn't mind seeing how Cinnamon handles a young, speedy, tall, lanky/rangy SP either.
daprofessor
QUOTE (sduck @ Nov 28 2012, 03:30 PM) *
Well of course. I'm just saying like why put Cotto so highly important as if he has more significance in the future? Cotto has already reached his peak in star potential and is more-likely near retirement. Canelo is still rising potential, so why overshadow him?


it's not about the future. it's about now. cotto is taking on a bigger challenge than canelo did in his last fight. if cotto should win...he's in the drivers seat. if he should lose....then canelo may be in the drivers seat. if cotto should lose and canelo chooses to fight cotto instead of trout...he will lose major respect in my eyes, much the same way pac lost respect for fighting morales instead of zahir raheem.
checkleft
Well to be fair up until now cotto hasn't fought a legit 154 pounder either. But I agree with the general consensus that Canelo has no right to big fights with his resume.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Nov 30 2012, 02:07 AM) *
Well to be fair up until now cotto hasn't fought a legit 154 pounder either. But I agree with the general consensus that Canelo has no right to big fights with his resume.


that's not fair at all!!!

cotto's resume at 154 is better than canelos period.
Franchize
I don't have an issue with Canelos less than impressive resume'. The kid is only 22. I just think he has a lot of talent and a lot of flaws, as does Cotto. That usually makes for great fights. There's so many question marks in a Cotto vs Canelo fight. Who will be the aggressor? Will Cotto's jab pay huge dividends as we know it has in the past? Will Cotto get overwhelmed by Canelo's speed and power? Will Canelo be overwhelmed with the mystique of Cotto and the fact that this will be the first time he's fighting on a big stage and the opponent still has a lot left in his tank? Who will go to the body more and who's body punches will be more effective? Was Cotto's performance vs Mayweather off of adrenaline or is it proof that he's fully resurrected his career? Will the torch be passed or will the young pup get schooled? It's just a very intriguing matchup to me. Good for boxing.
checkleft


QUOTE (daprofessor @ Nov 30 2012, 01:45 PM) *
that's not fair at all!!!

cotto's resume at 154 is better than canelos period.

I wasn't arguing that canelos was better at all. I'm just saying neither have fought a legit top 154 pounder until trout yet both have held titles.. cotto has been well taken care of at 154 except for the mayweather fight
Gambit808
Trout & Canelo made that happen to Cotto tonight LMAO!

WOOOOO!!! (RIC FLAIR), I wanted to moter-boat the shit outta Cotto's wife titties when they showed them thangs on the big screen. Jus Wanna Rub Baby oil on them Double mint twins and BBBBBBBBBBBah... give it a couple more high profile fights and Trout girl 'll be wearing the same type dresses wink.gif

Anyway this fight goes to show that Cotto don't belong at the TOP of Jr. Middleweight and he for damn sure better stay away from the TOP fights at Middleweight if that even crawls back into his cabeza. Don't know where he goes from here unless he try's for a rematch maybe. Would be tough to sell a fight (with Alverez) off of these last 2 performances we seen him get schooled, right now, it don't look good for Cotto.

Bring on Mayweather-Alverez if not Trout- Alverez.
sduck
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 2 2012, 02:49 AM) *
Trout & Canelo made that happen to Cotto tonight LMAO!

WOOOOO!!! (RIC FLAIR), I wanted to moter-boat the shit outta Cotto's wife titties when they showed them thangs on the big screen. Jus Wanna Rub Baby oil on them Double mint twins and BBBBBBBBBBBah... give it a couple more high profile fights and Trout girl 'll be wearing the same type dresses wink.gif

Anyway this fight goes to show that Cotto don't belong at the TOP of Jr. Middleweight and he for damn sure better stay away from the TOP fights at Middleweight if that even crawls back into his cabeza. Don't know where he goes from here unless he try's for a rematch maybe. Would be tough to sell a fight (with Alverez) off of these last 2 performances we seen him get schooled, right now, it don't look good for Cotto.

Bring on Mayweather-Alverez if not Trout- Alverez.

lmfao I was thinkin the same thing, I was like "damn look at them titties"
Cshel86
LMAO at Gambit and his "rapey" posts! #Creep

laugh.gif
checkleft
According to an interview on boxing scene Canelo and his team have eliminated cotto for his next fight because of his loss. Now they are saying they are willing to face trout may 4th if the negotiations with mayweather don't work out. If he indeed does fight trout may 4th (outside of cali as much as I hate to put my own state down) Id be surprised and a little impressed.

Fyi, I got a kick out of this. It turns out that trout won his first belt by beating Canelos brother! Lol talk about a selling point and something trout could talk shit about!
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 5 2012, 03:20 AM) *
According to an interview on boxing scene Canelo and his team have eliminated cotto for his next fight because of his loss. Now they are saying they are willing to face trout may 4th if the negotiations with mayweather don't work out. If he indeed does fight trout may 4th (outside of cali as much as I hate to put my own state down) Id be surprised and a little impressed.

Fyi, I got a kick out of this. It turns out that trout won his first belt by beating Canelos brother! Lol talk about a selling point and something trout could talk shit about!


if the fight happens in cali....look for controversy. sad.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 5 2012, 02:45 AM) *
if the fight happens in cali....look for controversy. sad.gif

As long as the WBC is involved, Trout can fight Canelo in the kitchen of the fuckin MGM Grand, and something will go wrong with the decision. I think Texas is notorious for shenanigans and bad decisions this year, thus far.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:08 PM) *
As long as the WBC is involved, Trout can fight Canelo in the kitchen of the fuckin MGM Grand, and something will go wrong with the decision. I think Texas is notorious for shenanigans and bad decisions this year, thus far.


the wbc takes care of its' own. smh.
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