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Gambit808
I recently read off Boxingscene about how Canelo wants to again, negotiate a fight with Mayweather for Cinco De Mayo weekend since the bad luck ginger head man again, had to witness a fighter he expected to win, obviously not win. Though that would make Mayweather the obvious plan B, the article would go on to read that he (Canelo) feels it would be difficult given the fact that Mayweather has plans to return to the ring in Febuary 2013 & later IN THE SAME YEAR of September 2013, and when it comes to making the terms to Who, What, When, Where to fight, we all know who wins that battle.

Now, if in fact that is true and things do not AGAIN go "Canelo's Way", then that (to me) leaves 1 opponent out of 6 potentials, who could possibly make that date in Febuary and my bet is on... Robert "The Ghost" Guererro.

Not Trout (too soon), Not Pacquiao (for reasons that would take 3 years to explain), Not Bradley(though it has been said that he is scheduled to fight in Febuary against an opponent TBA), Not Alverez, Not Maidana... If a Mayweather return in Febuary is true, then I can't think of no other opponent that makes more sense than a scrap with The Ghost. It's Sellable, It's a good test to see how/if Mayweather can still handle a busy, durable southpaw with a good chin and some technical boxing skills as well, why not?

Your Thoughts

xxxxxx
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 4 2012, 10:25 PM) *
I recently read off Boxingscene about how Canelo wants to again, negotiate a fight with Mayweather for Cinco De Mayo weekend since the bad luck ginger head man again, had to witness a fighter he expected to win, obviously not win. Though that would make Mayweather the obvious plan B, the article would go on to read that he (Canelo) feels it would be difficult given the fact that Mayweather has plans to return to the ring in Febuary 2013 & later IN THE SAME YEAR of September 2013, and when it comes to making the terms to Who, What, When, Where to fight, we all know who wins that battle.

Now, if in fact that is true and things do not AGAIN go "Canelo's Way", then that (to me) leaves 1 opponent out of 6 potentials, who could possibly make that date in Febuary and my bet is on... Robert "The Ghost" Guererro.

Not Trout (too soon), Not Pacquiao (for reasons that would take 3 years to explain), Not Bradley(though it has been said that he is scheduled to fight in Febuary against an opponent TBA), Not Alverez, Not Maidana... If a Mayweather return in Febuary is true, then I can't think of no other opponent that makes more sense than a scrap with The Ghost. It's Sellable, It's a good test to see how/if Mayweather can still handle a busy, durable southpaw with a good chin and some technical boxing skills as well, why not?

Your Thoughts


Of course it "looks" like Mayweather will be fighting Guererro, but we must look at all sides to this. #1 We all know money talks & they dont call him "Money" for nothing. #2 When was the last time Mayweather fought 2 times in 1 year? Like 5 years ago?? #3 We havent heard nothing from Team Mayweather(Leonard or Floyd himself) about what his plans are. Unitl then we only know what we hear from other sources.

Gambit808
QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Dec 4 2012, 10:56 PM) *
Of course it "looks" like Mayweather will be fighting Guererro, but we must look at all sides to this. #1 We all know money talks & they dont call him "Money" for nothing. #2 When was the last time Mayweather fought 2 times in 1 year? Like 5 years ago?? #3 We havent heard nothing from Team Mayweather(Leonard or Floyd himself) about what his plans are. Unitl then we only know what we hear from other sources.

#1 Of coarse we know with Mayweather "Money Talks" lol, I can't be the only one that thinks this fight can sell. Can u honestly not see the big picture on how this fight can be sold?

#2 True... No argument there, seeing is believing.

#3 Also True... Just giving my 2 cents on the possibility of if it's true, which opponent makes more sense to fit the bill. I Gamble, therefore I encourage bold predictions.
daprofessor
squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Cshel86
QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Dec 4 2012, 10:56 PM) *
When was the last time Mayweather fought 2 times in 1 year? Like 5 years ago??

If we want to go by a "school year", then yes he's fought twice. Sadly, that isn't the case here. You're right, dude hasn't fought twice in a calender year, in about 5 years. LOL

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Dec 5 2012, 02:56 AM) *
squeaky wheel gets the oil.

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Honestly, I'm so over Canelo making himself famous by spewing these dude's names out.

Floyd- We haven't heard SHIT from Team Mayweather, and everybody and their grandma's uncle's cousin wants to fight him, so why even mention him?

Cotto- He just lost, so GBP can save the whole, "Well, we WERE gonna fight Cotto, but he lost". No yall weren't, cut the BS.

Trout- Canelo's too damn scared to fight him...wouldn't wanna derail that Canelo hype train, now would we?

Kirkland- nowhere to be found.

Molina- he'll make Canelo look like shit, but flying wombats will invade the ring and Molina will be blamed and disqualified for it. Either that, or Molina will get knocked down Canelo, just to make the count, and Pat Russell will be ref that fucks it up. He'll finish the count and ask Molina if he's okay, Molina will happen to sneeze, and Russell will call the fight off. Molina's luck.

Angulo- seems like a good fight, but that will more than likely happen later and actually be a B.A.D. card.

Ortiz- is he still on a liquid diet?

With this in mind, Canelo and GBP needs to just STFU and sign that K-9 fight. They didn't sign the mofo for no reason. All of this bullshit will flushed away with a K-9 fight being signed. Then the bullshit "Who's next for Canelo?" talks will resume after he takes K-9's belt and give him that payday that he's been crying about.
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:51 PM) *
If we want to go by a "school year", then yes he's fought twice. Sadly, that isn't the case here. You're right, dude hasn't fought twice in a calender year, in about 5 years. LOL


laugh.gif

Honestly, I'm so over Canelo making himself famous by spewing these dude's names out.

Floyd- We haven't heard SHIT from Team Mayweather, and everybody and their grandma's uncle's cousin wants to fight him, so why even mention him?

Cotto- He just lost, so GBP can save the whole, "Well, we WERE gonna fight Cotto, but he lost". No yall weren't, cut the BS.

Trout- Canelo's too damn scared to fight him...wouldn't wanna derail that Canelo hype train, now would we?

Kirkland- nowhere to be found.

Molina- he'll make Canelo look like shit, but flying wombats will invade the ring and Molina will be blamed and disqualified for it. Either that, or Molina will get knocked down Canelo, just to make the count, and Pat Russell will be ref that fucks it up. He'll finish the count and ask Molina if he's okay, Molina will happen to sneeze, and Russell will call the fight off. Molina's luck.

Angulo- seems like a good fight, but that will more than likely happen later and actually be a B.A.D. card.

Ortiz- is he still on a liquid diet?

With this in mind, Canelo and GBP needs to just STFU and sign that K-9 fight. They didn't sign the mofo for no reason. All of this bullshit will flushed away with a K-9 fight being signed. Then the bullshit "Who's next for Canelo?" talks will resume after he takes K-9's belt and give him that payday that he's been crying about.


I don't even have to read the poster's name to know it's CShel86. Keep keepin it real...
flazi
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 5 2012, 08:51 AM) *
Molina- he'll make Canelo look like shit, but flying wombats will invade the ring and Molina will be blamed and disqualified for it. Either that, or Molina will get knocked down Canelo, just to make the count, and Pat Russell will be ref that fucks it up. He'll finish the count and ask Molina if he's okay, Molina will happen to sneeze, and Russell will call the fight off. Molina's luck.


Ortiz- is he still on a liquid diet?

LMAO. Molina tears into this guy and gets tore into by the judges and the ref. Molina is our generation's road warrior.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 5 2012, 12:51 PM) *
If we want to go by a "school year", then yes he's fought twice. Sadly, that isn't the case here. You're right, dude hasn't fought twice in a calender year, in about 5 years. LOL


laugh.gif

Honestly, I'm so over Canelo making himself famous by spewing these dude's names out.

Floyd- We haven't heard SHIT from Team Mayweather, and everybody and their grandma's uncle's cousin wants to fight him, so why even mention him?

Cotto- He just lost, so GBP can save the whole, "Well, we WERE gonna fight Cotto, but he lost". No yall weren't, cut the BS.

Trout- Canelo's too damn scared to fight him...wouldn't wanna derail that Canelo hype train, now would we?

Kirkland- nowhere to be found.

Molina- he'll make Canelo look like shit, but flying wombats will invade the ring and Molina will be blamed and disqualified for it. Either that, or Molina will get knocked down Canelo, just to make the count, and Pat Russell will be ref that fucks it up. He'll finish the count and ask Molina if he's okay, Molina will happen to sneeze, and Russell will call the fight off. Molina's luck.

Angulo- seems like a good fight, but that will more than likely happen later and actually be a B.A.D. card.

Ortiz- is he still on a liquid diet?

With this in mind, Canelo and GBP needs to just STFU and sign that K-9 fight. They didn't sign the mofo for no reason. All of this bullshit will flushed away with a K-9 fight being signed. Then the bullshit "Who's next for Canelo?" talks will resume after he takes K-9's belt and give him that payday that he's been crying about.


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Jack 1000
Whoever it is,

It has to be a big money maker guy with little risk for Floyd's first fight back. I was gonna say Pavlik, who I think is really shot but is a money maker. According to Max Boxing, Pavlik is fighting Ward in January. For Ward, a name guy, but an easy payday, same for Floyd. But, Floyd fights now only once a year, so the number of fights left due to age is gonna be limited.

Jack
The Original MrFactor
Well, I don't see Floyd fighting an Arum guy. If he does, then that throws all his credibility regarding the Pacquiao fight out the window. I once thought it would be Bradley, which makes sense, but he's Arums fighter, so it doesn't. Guerrero would make the most sense after that. Guerrero can be ready in February. Guerrero is beatable and will take short money to make it happen. Plus he's a credible welterweight in that he just beat Andre Berto.
xxxxxx
So Team Mayweather(Leonard & Floyd himself) now have stated they plan to fight May 4 vs TBA & Sep 14th vs TBA...both being at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. This is terrific news if it comes to fruition. 99% of the time when Leonard comes out with a statement it is very simple, accurate, professional & to the point when it comes to Floyd. Now the question is who will be the 2 opponents? Or will it be the same opponent(highly unlikely, but possible)? In my opinion...If I was Golden Boy and Team Mayweather i would announce a 4 man tourney in the 147-154 pound divisons. With Floyd & Canelo in opposite fights. I know, I know...weve seen "plans" get interupted before, but with the right 4 men any matchup would be nice. They could match Canelo vs K-9 in a unification fight on 1 side and you could get the Mayweather-Ghost matchup on the other. Mayweather could even ask the Ghost to come to 154 if they planned on having an undisputed 154 pound Champion after the 2 fights. Or there is always a Mayweather-Canelo fight right away in May or Mayweather could wait for Pacman( depending the results). This will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Gambit808
QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Dec 6 2012, 12:07 AM) *
So Team Mayweather(Leonard & Floyd himself) now have stated they plan to fight May 4 vs TBA & Sep 14th vs TBA...both being at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. This is terrific news if it comes to fruition. 99% of the time when Leonard comes out with a statement it is very simple, accurate, professional & to the point when it comes to Floyd. Now the question is who will be the 2 opponents? Or will it be the same opponent(highly unlikely, but possible)? In my opinion...If I was Golden Boy and Team Mayweather i would announce a 4 man tourney in the 147-154 pound divisons. With Floyd & Canelo in opposite fights. I know, I know...weve seen "plans" get interupted before, but with the right 4 men any matchup would be nice. They could match Canelo vs K-9 in a unification fight on 1 side and you could get the Mayweather-Ghost matchup on the other. Mayweather could even ask the Ghost to come to 154 if they planned on having an undisputed 154 pound Champion after the 2 fights. Or there is always a Mayweather-Canelo fight right away in May or Mayweather could wait for Pacman( depending the results). This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Makes sense

I'm sticking with the Mayweather-Guerrero bit, and the K-9 Bundrage idea sounds like a sell. Ya know, for a champion (Bonderage) he has been on the shelf for sometime now so I wouldn't be surprised if GBP kept him there as a back up.

Pacman has it in tough this Saturday. Though I'll be streaming this "one-too-many" kinda fight, being 2-0-1 seems like Pacquiao is asking to be upset.

We'll see.
Franchize
I have no idea about the Cinco de Mayo fight but I think the September fight will be Danny Garcia. I think Angel will run his yap in some post fight interview if Danny KO's Zab and the whole room will pause like "uh oh." I don't think Oscar wants Canelo fighting Floyd quite yet. I don't think they see Canelo as the "new thing". I think they're trying to make him an actual icon. Danny is a "new thing", who has a big name now, but I don't think they mind sacrificing him to the big bad wolf lol. I think a Garcia vs Mayweather fight is much easier to sell than Guerrero. I think Mayweather will use the September fight to take over another market. Wouldn't be surprised if he fought in the Barclays. If that beef with him and 50 is genuine, that would be a real rash on 50's gens. He secretly HATES Jay-Z but respects him. In the biggest dick contest 50 always wants to have with moguls, your ex-friend/ biggest fighter in the sport fighting in your rivals arena is like a penis pump lol
Plah
QUOTE (Franchize @ Dec 6 2012, 02:54 PM) *
I have no idea about the Cinco de Mayo fight but I think the September fight will be Danny Garcia. I think Angel will run his yap in some post fight interview if Danny KO's Zab and the whole room will pause like "uh oh." I don't think Oscar wants Canelo fighting Floyd quite yet. I don't think they see Canelo as the "new thing". I think they're trying to make him an actual icon. Danny is a "new thing", who has a big name now, but I don't think they mind sacrificing him to the big bad wolf lol. I think a Garcia vs Mayweather fight is much easier to sell than Guerrero. I think Mayweather will use the September fight to take over another market. Wouldn't be surprised if he fought in the Barclays. If that beef with him and 50 is genuine, that would be a real rash on 50's gens. He secretly HATES Jay-Z but respects him. In the biggest dick contest 50 always wants to have with moguls, your ex-friend/ biggest fighter in the sport fighting in your rivals arena is like a penis pump lol

Hmmm makes sense. And better for Danny if he loses his 0 against Floyd and makes a nice very payday instead of losing it to Matthysse and not getting nowhere near the same amount of money.
Franchize
QUOTE (Plah @ Dec 6 2012, 05:43 PM) *
Hmmm makes sense. And better for Danny if he loses his 0 against Floyd and makes a nice very payday instead of losing it to Matthysse and not getting nowhere near the same amount of money.


Yup, plus Golden Boy won't have to pay THAT much for Danny. They'll probably appease him by letting him walk out first. Letting him fighting where he'll already have fought twice. Oscar will hype up the fight and remind people that Danny is a champion and he has belts blah blah blah. Floyd wont care much about entering the ring first. He'll say that he's happy to be fighting a stong, young champion at his best (clearly a jab at Manny lol). He'll call Danny a young lion with tremendous punching power, then the week of, as Garcia and his pops are fuming with confidence, he'll begin talking shit at a rate that maybe even Angel can't handle and take the cool right outta Danny's walk lol. Him and Ellerbe will be sitting back with the "This nigga here" face and collect another pay day agaist a guy who's probably going to make about 1/8th of what he is. Win/Win for all parties involved.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Plah @ Dec 6 2012, 04:43 PM) *
Hmmm makes sense. And better for Danny if he loses his 0 against Floyd and makes a nice very payday instead of losing it to Matthysse and not getting nowhere near the same amount of money.


The trash talk between Danny's father and Floyd Mayweather, would be a big sell alone! It would be a big money fight, but not so easy of a fight for Floyd.

Jack
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