QUOTE (Kratza @ Dec 9 2012, 04:25 PM)
Shel's on one LOL
that picture made is too funny but seriously i doubt he is on PEDs just people assume you cant bulk up that much without PED usage
and who do you think is the guy to derail Floyd, because i don't see anyone in the near future doing it except Canelo
I hear ya. People assume that you cant bulk up and still keep your speed, reflexes, power, and so on. That's what the issue with Pac was. Im not sure who can derail Floyd's train, but age and inactivity is still a fight that Floyd wont win...it's gotten the best of them all.
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Dec 9 2012, 04:32 PM)
HBO was swinging from Manny's nuts all night again! If I hear about fucking "Compubox" and Punchstats one more time........" Only Roy Jones made sense the whole night. The WORST "I really don't wanna be here anymore" commentary from Larry Merchant.
The commentary wasn't the best last night, but it wasn't the worst. RJJ was checking Lampley and Merchant all night long, but the funniest part of the commentary was during the Vazquez/Gesta fight! HBO had their way with insulting the lack of excitement in that fight.
QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 9 2012, 04:47 PM)
Really about the PEDs? The amount of shit Pac took when he beat Cotto and people to make it worse started believing it, then it happens to Marquez and people are like Jim Lampley in the end...
I mean when Mayweather Sr said Pacman was on PEDs a lot of people on this board ate his words up and asked for seconds, but if Roach says it, well that guy must be wrong. I think he is wrong, but just don't be such a hypocrite.
Pac was knocking heavy dudes out and taking their punches as he bulked up, and he DIDN'T lose speed, reflexes, punch resistance, and power in the process...weird.
It's funny how Team Pac knew that Juan was working with a known PED distributor and they watched him bulk up and make Manny look bad in the 3rd fight, but nobody uttered a word. NOW, that Manny was knocked cold, they want to subtly make a fuss about it.
It's weird that they didn't say much...maybe because they didn't want to draw attention to themselves by accusing Marquez. Roach can say that he isn't accusing him all he wants, but he is very much making subtle accusations...or raising concerns.
Nobody here is being a hypocrite, but Roach needs to shut his trap about it. Ivan Calderon could've knocked Manny out from that angle with a short shot. That shot had NOTHING to do with the "new power" (as Roach described it) that Juan has, it was just a short, calculated shot, that an unbalanced Manny was open for.
Nothing against Manny, but I wish he was able to speak up more in regards to his career, rather than those other dweebs (Roach, Knonz, etc) who made shit look worse for him.
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Dec 9 2012, 04:50 PM)
i doubt it. people still gon buy his fight. floyd and manny hasn't fought each other and people were still buying their fights.
Yep, sure will. I just see it slowly coming to an end, but it's NOT over. Hell, Manny actually has more opponent options than Floyd at this point.