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Kratza
Dont know if many of you have seen DeGale but i really dont see anything special, i mean yeah he won a gold medal but Groves gave him more than he could handle and so handed him his first loss, i truly think its a matter of time before he gets exposed by a true super-middleweight, he's asking for a title shot next year but the title holders at 168 are way too big of an ask for him and i think he should just stay fighting his journeymen opponents and grovel to get a rematch with 'Ugly boy' as he says
Cheesey1
I don't think DeGale's lacking substance. He's only 15 fights into his career, so the current level of opposition is generally commensurate. Technically he's solid. My main critique is what cost him the Groves' match i.e. periodic lack of activity during the bout (I thought DeGale just eked that one out). He also needs to work on his finishing and a bit more movement.

As far as him saying that he can face Froch next year, or 2014, why not? Even if he loses, which is the more likely outcome, he's still young enough that he can learn from it. I wasn't surprised to read some of the negative responses to him mentioning Froch, but how else is a young, clearly talented, boxer supposed to find out his true capabilities?

So if he faces a top super mw next year, the odds are definitely against him, but if he wants to test himself, then nice one 'Chunky.'
mgrover
yes he is
Cshel86
Not even sure if I've ever seen DeGale fight before...maybe by accident (FNF or an international stream). Am I missing something here?
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 12 2012, 10:01 AM) *
Not even sure if I've ever seen DeGale fight before...maybe by accident (FNF or an international stream). Am I missing something here?

You've watched him before. On WealthTV about two months ago against that tough French guy with the long name - Hadillah Mohoumadi.

Re. the overhyped question, if he's overhyped then surely so is Groves. Comparable records and comparable opposition. I don't consider either guy undeserving of praise, they're just still growing as pros.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Dec 13 2012, 09:29 AM) *
You've watched him before. On WealthTV about two months ago against that tough French guy with the long name - Hadillah Mohoumadi.

Re. the overhyped question, if he's overhyped then surely so is Groves. Comparable records and comparable opposition. I don't consider either guy undeserving of praise, they're just still growing as pros.

Yep, I did see him. Was that the same time that McCloskey got stopped by Corley?
checkleft
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Dec 12 2012, 06:56 AM) *
I don't think DeGale's lacking substance. He's only 15 fights into his career, so the current level of opposition is generally commensurate. Technically he's solid. My main critique is what cost him the Groves' match i.e. periodic lack of activity during the bout (I thought DeGale just eked that one out). He also needs to work on his finishing and a bit more movement.

As far as him saying that he can face Froch next year, or 2014, why not? Even if he loses, which is the more likely outcome, he's still young enough that he can learn from it. I wasn't surprised to read some of the negative responses to him mentioning Froch, but how else is a young, clearly talented, boxer supposed to find out his true capabilities?

So if he faces a top super mw next year, the odds are definitely against him, but if he wants to test himself, then nice one 'Chunky.'

I thought he won the groves fight to. But I don't think he's over hyped, good talent, nice style. He's got less then twenty fights and he can box. He has quite an ego tho which is what I think what turns people off from him (which is weird because Europeans usually eat that shit up and he isn't even really liked where he's from).

Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 13 2012, 09:59 AM) *
Yep, I did see him. Was that the same time that McCloskey got stopped by Corley?

I'm not sure if that was the same day as McCloskey/Corley.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 13 2012, 12:50 PM) *
I thought he won the groves fight to. But I don't think he's over hyped, good talent, nice style. He's got less then twenty fights and he can box. He has quite an ego tho which is what I think what turns people off from him (which is weird because Europeans usually eat that shit up and he isn't even really liked where he's from).

Yeah, the ego hasn't helped, but he's toned it down a lot.
checkleft
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Dec 13 2012, 07:17 PM) *
Yeah, the ego hasn't helped, but he's toned it down a lot.

Yea, and this is off topic but Wth is up w/ some of these foreign fighters and theit pictures. Ive seen two pretty homosexual pictures by the klitchkos (naked together, one behind the other lol) and one of degale to o (he's like nude in a boxing stance) Wtf..?!? Seriously lol that's some odlh and victor ortiz shit
Cshel86
QUOTE (Cheesey1 @ Dec 13 2012, 07:16 PM) *
I'm not sure if that was the same day as McCloskey/Corley.

Okay, nevermind. I read your column on UK blog on the front page. I remember his face now, and yes I saw him recently on Wealth TV. Now if I could only remember who Hadillah Mohoumadi fought recently. He didn't fight on May 5th, that was actually Marco Huck vs Ola Afolabi. It was killing me, I HAD to go back and see who that was.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 14 2012, 09:49 AM) *
Okay, nevermind. I read your column on UK blog on the front page. I remember his face now, and yes I saw him recently on Wealth TV. Now if I could only remember who Hadillah Mohoumadi fought recently. He didn't fight on May 5th, that was actually Marco Huck vs Ola Afolabi. It was killing me, I HAD to go back and see who that was.

I mentioned him in the W.I.B because he fought last weekend. There's also a seperate article on him on the blog, but I didn't write that.
Cheesey1
QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 13 2012, 09:21 PM) *
Yea, and this is off topic but Wth is up w/ some of these foreign fighters and theit pictures. Ive seen two pretty homosexual pictures by the klitchkos (naked together, one behind the other lol) and one of degale to o (he's like nude in a boxing stance) Wtf..?!? Seriously lol that's some odlh and victor ortiz shit

Thank God that I haven't seen either photo.

I hear you though, photos like that are unnecessary and unwarranted. Not a good look.
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