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Gambit808
So 50 cent thinks Boxing should adapt the theatrics of say the WWE to help sell events. I'm trying to see the big picture here as a fan of both sport (except the PG Era of WWE) but I.. I.. I.. boxing is fine the way it is. Maybe guys can use a bit of character to help sell there selves to the public, maybe stage performances can be given in between or during ring walks, maybe, but we don't need anything more extra than that.

Your Thoughts
Marcus
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 19 2012, 08:55 PM) *
So 50 cent thinks Boxing should adapt the theatrics of say the WWE to help sell events. I'm trying to see the big picture here as a fan of both sport (except the PG Era of WWE) but I.. I.. I.. boxing is fine the way it is. Maybe guys can use a bit of character to help sell there selves to the public, maybe stage performances can be given in between or during ring walks, maybe, but we don't need anything more extra than that.

Your Thoughts


I pretty much agree. Unlike wrestling boxing is the real deal. 50 wants to reenact the Mayweather-Marquez Post fight interview that Mosley interrupt for every fight LOL That would never happen. Not with emotional Guys like Carl Frotch, Jean Pascal, and Zab Judah still in the sport LMAO. I can already see riots happening in the ring, joe cortez getting slammed with a folding chair. Jim Grey getting decked in the face. Zab Judah's dad trying to fight Angel. lol it wont work for boxing!
Gambit808
QUOTE (Marcus @ Dec 19 2012, 09:20 PM) *
I pretty much agree. Unlike wrestling boxing is the real deal. 50 wants to reenact the Mayweather-Marquez Post fight interview that Mosley interrupt for every fight LOL That would never happen. Not with emotional Guys like Carl Frotch, Jean Pascal, and Zab Judah still in the sport LMAO. I can already see riots happening in the ring, joe cortez getting slammed with a folding chair. Jim Grey getting decked in the face. Zab Judah's dad trying to fight Angel. lol it wont work for boxing!

LMAO

Cshel86
Lmao at Marcus's post! laugh.gif

I like 50's idea a bit, and if you think about it, some fighters are doing it now. Guys like Pascal usually have a rap concert going on before he steps in the ring. On another note, boxing is REAL, and some guys dont really have that confidence before the first bell, so most of them would refrain from the theatrics on their way to the ring.

In wrestling, the fights results are already determined, so it shouldn't be hard to come to the ring with all of the bells and whistles.
Gambit808
Remember when the WWE tried to convert to boxing, it was called "The Brawl 4 All". Butterbean shut that shit down quick LOL. Look it up, maybe thats where 50 got this idea from.
xxxxxx
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 19 2012, 09:55 PM) *
So 50 cent thinks Boxing should adapt the theatrics of say the WWE to help sell events. I'm trying to see the big picture here as a fan of both sport (except the PG Era of WWE) but I.. I.. I.. boxing is fine the way it is. Maybe guys can use a bit of character to help sell there selves to the public, maybe stage performances can be given in between or during ring walks, maybe, but we don't need anything more extra than that.

Your Thoughts


It's not the worst of ideas, but to advertise that is what his plan is was a mistake because now people will know its fake. He shoulda just went with it without stating thats what he was gonna do.
mgrover
you cant fake bad blood, and bad blood is what all this about, the whole fights, interruptions, etc etc. I mean David Haye vs Chisora sparked up some nice controversy, whether you agree with what they did or not
BoxingStill#1
I think we boxers are just to nice in this era..

Smiling and laughing after you just got knocked out,..tapping gloves after every other round,.. whispering sweet nothings during the stare at press conferences...

I can go on but what the sport needs is more bad guy personalities. Someone for the people to hate and be made to respect. Im kinda liking Keith Therman,.. rough around the edges, smart, decent pop,.. and calls everyone out..

WWE has the perfect combination of Good vs. Bad. And thats what boxing needs..

Tell me folkes, if Floyed and Canelo take place who would be looked at as the good guy? Even though he hasnt proved half of what FLoyed has in the sport?

Or better yet, if kirkland would have kept himself in line and remained knocking guys out left and right, he coulda been the throwback tyson type guy.. who wouldnt buy a Trout Kirkland match? Or Canelo? Idk..

So yea, in a way i kinda agree wit 50
CrazyBuffalO
I like boxing as it is. The entrance concert is great as it is. No need for more than that.
Speaking of entrance concert, does anyone know the title of the song 50 Cent sang during Gamboa’s entrance to the ring in the Pacquiao-Marquez IV undercard?? It was cool as hell.
I like boxers suiting up all bling-bling with diamonds and gold outside the ring. It adds to the grandeur and the image of wealth in this sport. But other than that there’s no need to make boxers look like WWE clowns in fights.
CrazyBuffalO
Forget it I searched the title of the song on the net.
Cshel86
The only thing that will push this idea to it's greatest potential, is highlight reels/promo videos.



Promos like this, get casual fans excited about an upcoming fight.

I agree that the new generation of fighters lack personality, either that, or they lack the confidence to talk the shit that they REALLY want to talk about their opponents. Seriously though, we have the spin doctors (HBO nuthuggers) and those mindless pundits that Cheesey talked about...how hard would it be to build a good guy and bad guy?

Not hard at all, I can imagine. Again, network crews need to take more time with these highlight reels and make better promo videos. Not only that, but it needs to be on more networks than the one that the fight will be aired on.

I swear I almost hit the "buy" button when I see those WWE promos for their PPVs. Anybody remember the old days of wrestling when you had Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Kane, Mankind, and many others? Those were classic promos and I SWEAR I almost want to google those events after I see the promos.

Boxing is falling under the radar for unnecessary reasons. If guys like Gorilla Productions (You Tube sensations) can out together epic promos for free, then why in the fuck can't these network employees do it? That goes back to networks needing to hire people with a pulse, and not those "I'm just waiting for my retirement pension" douche bags who put this garbage out there for viewers to see.

No matter how over the top a promo can be, fact is, these guys still have to get in there and punch the shit out of each other. Im ready to see real fighters in the ring, not these poo-butt ass fighters who are afraid to fight real competition, because their chances of landing a big fight could possibly be jeopardized. Fuck that, fight whoever and beat their asses...the respect will come. Instead, we have guys going the Al Haymon route.

We have guys like Broner who comes to pressers in shades, gaudy jewelry, and shades and shit, but he's facing overmatched guys like Escebedo, Perez, and so on. That's just another classic example of some of these guys acting like they've already made it, and they haven't even faced anybody. Then they get fleeced by an lesser fighter, and start the retirement talks.

Boxing is all out of order...
BoxingThrone
I don't think the WWE experience would work well in boxing. Moreso than the ring action, WWE is driven on the storyline, the soap opera aspect and the in-ring interviews. It's really entertainment first, sports second.

Boxing is mostly all about the fight. I go to the fights to see the fight ... not hear music or interviews (ring card girls always provide a nice diversion though). I think that a show like HBO's 24/7 does a nice enough job creating an interesting back-story. Fabricated "beef" is lame. It's lame in hip-hop & it would be lame in boxing.

Marcus
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Dec 20 2012, 08:13 AM) *
I think we boxers are just to nice in this era..

Smiling and laughing after you just got knocked out,..tapping gloves after every other round,.. whispering sweet nothings during the stare at press conferences...

I can go on but what the sport needs is more bad guy personalities. Someone for the people to hate and be made to respect. Im kinda liking Keith Therman,.. rough around the edges, smart, decent pop,.. and calls everyone out..

WWE has the perfect combination of Good vs. Bad. And thats what boxing needs..

Tell me folkes, if Floyed and Canelo take place who would be looked at as the good guy? Even though he hasnt proved half of what FLoyed has in the sport?

Or better yet, if kirkland would have kept himself in line and remained knocking guys out left and right, he coulda been the throwback tyson type guy.. who wouldnt buy a Trout Kirkland match? Or Canelo? Idk..

So yea, in a way i kinda agree wit 50


TRUUUU! Pacquiao just sued Mayweather for defamation of character and if you notice Floyd isnt even as entertaining with the trash talk as he used to be as a result SMFH unbelievable. This is a contact sport! Trash is to be talked!

Guys like Floyd, Broner, Angel Garcia, Zab Judah, Peter Quillin, Bradley, Uncle Roger... they make this fight game entertaining.
Marcus
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Dec 20 2012, 10:34 AM) *
The only thing that will push this idea to it's greatest potential, is highlight reels/promo videos.



Promos like this, get casual fans excited about an upcoming fight.

I agree that the new generation of fighters lack personality, either that, or they lack the confidence to talk the shit that they REALLY want to talk about their opponents. Seriously though, we have the spin doctors (HBO nuthuggers) and those mindless pundits that Cheesey talked about...how hard would it be to build a good guy and bad guy?

Not hard at all, I can imagine. Again, network crews need to take more time with these highlight reels and make better promo videos. Not only that, but it needs to be on more networks than the one that the fight will be aired on.

I swear I almost hit the "buy" button when I see those WWE promos for their PPVs. Anybody remember the old days of wrestling when you had Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Kane, Mankind, and many others? Those were classic promos and I SWEAR I almost want to google those events after I see the promos.

Boxing is falling under the radar for unnecessary reasons. If guys like Gorilla Productions (You Tube sensations) can out together epic promos for free, then why in the fuck can't these network employees do it? That goes back to networks needing to hire people with a pulse, and not those "I'm just waiting for my retirement pension" douche bags who put this garbage out there for viewers to see.

No matter how over the top a promo can be, fact is, these guys still have to get in there and punch the shit out of each other. Im ready to see real fighters in the ring, not these poo-butt ass fighters who are afraid to fight real competition, because their chances of landing a big fight could possibly be jeopardized. Fuck that, fight whoever and beat their asses...the respect will come. Instead, we have guys going the Al Haymon route.

We have guys like Broner who comes to pressers in shades, gaudy jewelry, and shades and shit, but he's facing overmatched guys like Escebedo, Perez, and so on. That's just another classic example of some of these guys acting like they've already made it, and they haven't even faced anybody. Then they get fleeced by an lesser fighter, and start the retirement talks.

Boxing is all out of order...


I agree and the fact that world titles dont have the same essence and value that they used to have i think affect fighters and how bad their "bad intentions" truly are going into the fight. When you have a silver belt, diamond belt, regular champ, champ in emeritus, super champ, latino champ, or when youre 0-3-1 and cans still get a title shot i think these fights lose their intensity. Boxers dont pride themselves or want it as bad as they used to. Thats why i respect Martinez so much. Guuys like Ward and Martinez.. their attitude, bad intentions going into the fight.. even though they dont trash talk you can feel the passion. That essence of wanting to be a champion..
Kratza
Im against it, boxing is fine the way it is, some people trash talk some people dont. I really don't want to see anything scripted in boxing, leave it alone
daprofessor
QUOTE (Kratza @ Dec 20 2012, 07:10 PM) *
Im against it, boxing is fine the way it is, some people trash talk some people dont. I really don't want to see anything scripted in boxing, leave it alone


this!

leave the theatrics for the bullshit. i don't mind the extravagant/entertaining ring entrances... but let it be. it's perfect the way it is.
checkleft
As the motto goes, "you don't play boxing". Just me but I wouldn't want to risk losing focus working on ring walks or worrying about theatrics and then get ktfod.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Dec 20 2012, 08:46 PM) *
As the motto goes, "you don't play boxing". Just me but I wouldn't want to risk losing focus working on ring walks or worrying about theatrics and then get ktfod.


that's part of the coolness of ring walks. who remembers prince nazim or cory spinks? roy jones with redman and method man when roy got dropped by devalle? them shits are fun/funny.
BigFightFan
They can add all the ring walks and theatrics they want, boxing will not change. The only that can increase boxing popularity is competitive under cards. People who aren't dedicated to the sweet science will not sit around and watch 6 lackluster undercard bouts before the main event.

Network T.V. bouts and maybe another boxing reality show will increase popularity also.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Kratza @ Dec 20 2012, 06:10 PM) *
Im against it, boxing is fine the way it is, some people trash talk some people dont. I really don't want to see anything scripted in boxing, leave it alone


this
Cshel86
QUOTE (Marcus @ Dec 20 2012, 05:54 PM) *
I agree and the fact that world titles dont have the same essence and value that they used to have i think affect fighters and how bad their "bad intentions" truly are going into the fight. When you have a silver belt, diamond belt, regular champ, champ in emeritus, super champ, latino champ, or when youre 0-3-1 and cans still get a title shot i think these fights lose their intensity. Boxers dont pride themselves or want it as bad as they used to. Thats why i respect Martinez so much. Guuys like Ward and Martinez.. their attitude, bad intentions going into the fight.. even though they dont trash talk you can feel the passion. That essence of wanting to be a champion..

Yeah, world titles have lost their true meaning nowadays. What do you feel could be done differently to get these guys' names out there? Promo videos is a HUGE start, in my opinion.
Dolimite
Curtis is an interesting figure all around. After Gamboa's return to the ring it was 50 doing most of the talking, which I didn't understand. Usually the promoter says a few lines and then let's the boxer do most of the talking. He even came from the roof as Gamboa's introduction. Now Gamboa may think this will boost his name in the spot light or maybe not, I just know if I am the one getting my faced punched in then I should be doing the talking. If Fifty is putting all his eggs in one basket in Yurkois that is a mistake. This dude is calling out The Problem already! If that fight happens just put an L in the column. The what would Fifty do? Fifty is racing up to the top and he stepped on a few hands to get there. He gave Golden Boy the finger because he thought Mayweather was on board with his promotional venture then when May wasn't leaving Al Haymon he turned on May and then he ran to Arum and started a twitter battle. The problem is people are talking about Fifty and not his fighters. I just want Mayweather to say "If you don't want a promoter all up in your interview, come to TMT promotions." Good luck to Fifty and his fighter because Gamboa is really the only guy he has.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 19 2012, 07:55 PM) *
So 50 cent thinks Boxing should adapt the theatrics of say the WWE to help sell events. I'm trying to see the big picture here as a fan of both sport (except the PG Era of WWE) but I.. I.. I.. boxing is fine the way it is. Maybe guys can use a bit of character to help sell there selves to the public, maybe stage performances can be given in between or during ring walks, maybe, but we don't need anything more extra than that.

Your Thoughts



That performance by 50 was straight garbage, all he did was descend out of the air into the ring and started with his wack rap, he'd have to do better than that to get boxing the fanfare that the fake WWE/WWF brings.

I can't stand 50, he is a jack-ass fool with money still trying to front some street cred that he'll never have.
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