QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Dec 27 2012, 10:27 PM)
It's an excellent question about JMM's current contract status with Top Rank. I do remember him signing that 3 fight deal.
The thing is, Arum is usually great at covering his bases with stuff like this. I believe that since the 3rd Pacman - JMM fight, he's been in cash-out mode with regard to Manny.
Which means, that he would want to make sure that he had multiple fights left on the contracts of whoever was in line to fight Manny.
Bradley is locked down and isn't going anywhere. Rios is the same. I believe it's possible that a contract extension was carried out with JMM on the DL in advance to the 4th Pacman fight.
Remember, when Cotto was considering his options, it was pretty clear in the news that there was contract - related rumblings. We haven't heard anything similar for JMM.
If he was a promotional free agent, then I say bring it on and let's make this fight happen.
However, the very fact that Arum was quick to speak on a possible 5th Pacman fight tells me that he has a signed contract in his back pocket.
Sigh. Good men die young. Evil, slimy, wretched blood sucking parasites like Arum live forever it seems.
Excellent points about Arum lining his pockets and having Manny in cash-out mode. We could still have a JMM/Bradley and a JMM/Rios fight in the wings...smart move Arum.
The talks of that 5th fight IMMEDIATELY after the ending of the 4th fight, is all too reminiscent of the ending of the 3rd fight where Arum broke his neck to announce a 4th fight. Arum's probably had his own ass covered before the ink even dried for the 4th fight.
QUOTE (Franchize @ Dec 28 2012, 07:22 AM)
Normally, I'd say n way in hell because JMM is a Top Prank guy but I can't see JMM passing on some flat rate offer Mayweather throws at him like Manny did. I can see Floyd offering Marquez like 15-20 mill and Marquez being like "Fuck you Arum, you'd better make this work." I can't see him peacefully declining like Manny has. Marquez is way more vocal about Arum. Let's not forget he accused Arum of a conspiracy after the 3rd fight.
I couldn't see JMM passing up 15-20M offered from Mayweather (which is a crazy amount). The kicker is, Arum wouldn't even allow his biggest cash cow to accept 40M, so Juan has waaaay heavier lifting to do, before he can ever get Bob to break a sweat.
As much as I dont like Arum, truth is, Marquez wouldn't have been in a position to make a huge payday ANYWHERE else, other than under Arum's banner. IF he happens to be a free agent and GBP is entertaining a Mayweather rematch, then Juan should thank Arum for a what he did for him with the last two Manny fights.
Had Marquez not been CHALLENGED to bulk up and fight Manny for a 3rd and 4th time, I doubt if he'd have the motivation to do it against any other opponent. Honesltly, I saw Marquez losing interest in boxing (due to limited opposition) after the first Mayweather fight. Hell, he looked SO out of place while sharing the ring with a young Diaz for the first fight.
I thought we were pretty much seeing the last days of Marquez, until he got the Mayweather fight. Even in that fight, he didn't look his best...maybe because he was pissed about the weight and how Floyd handled it at the weigh-in, though I cant imagine how you could be mad at a guy for putting another $600k in your pocket.
I felt bad for Marquez for having to take a Diaz rematch, when he CLEARLY flattened Diaz in the first fight. Again, I thought we were seeing the last of him. He hit his peak in the Katsidis fight. I didn't see much motivation from him after that, though he still has the skills to fight whoever.