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daprofessor
that he will test no matter...and it was up to them if they wanted to join him or some bullshit like that? now he's saying he won't fight rigondeaux unless he tests. hopefully rigondeaux agrees and this fight happens.
bnoles4life
Rigo should test....I can't fault Nonito.
leonthegee
Rigo did agree publicly when he was lobbying for the match a while back. And also in negotiations as well according to Nonito. Its easy to agree when your talking to a reporter. Then when the contracts in front of you they flake out.
checkleft
Duck. Donaire has been ducking the top guys in every division for like 2 years now...

Edit: just read a report that said Rigo has no problem with testing. Sounds more like Donaire is having cold feet, Btw did nishioka, arce, or mathebula do testing?
Dolimite
http://www.boxingscene.com/rigondeaux-no-i...-request--62555

So what is your next excuse Filipino Flab? Just take the challenge and be done with this. I don't think The Filipino Flab is ready for the Cuban.
mrchitown
Well Rigondeaux seemingly just wanted the terms of the agreement in Spanish, nothing wrong with that. This seems to be adding more intrigue to the fight. Doanire is acting as if he championed drug testing. I'm looking forward to this fight
gwapo
Rigondeaux should take the test. There's nothing to worry if you are not a user or not hiding any.
mgrover
I wonder who else wanted people to take a test... that guy must of been ducking so hard....
mgrover
QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 20 2013, 02:55 AM) *
Duck. Donaire has been ducking the top guys in every division for like 2 years now...

Edit: just read a report that said Rigo has no problem with testing. Sounds more like Donaire is having cold feet, Btw did nishioka, arce, or mathebula do testing?

Don't think so
Slumpage
Is it me or is Donaire really tryna back out of this fight? I mean Rigo says he wants a contract in Spanish before he signs it, seeing as he can only speak Spanish, this is fine..

As soon as Donaire hears about any kind of delay in the contract signing, he's instantly reporting to the media that there are problems and that he will look elsewhere?!

Plus lets not forget how they started throwing Vic's name around all of a sudden too???

I like Nonito as a fighter, and he generally has taken challenging fights, or at least worthy fighters. However this recent aversion to a fight with G-Rig is kinda weird. Mares he gets a pass due to the whole GBP/TR mess. That is not the case in regards to G-Rig tho...

Oh and you guys are right, what happened to the whole, " I don't care if my opponent takes the tests" crap Nonito was talking. You don't care if Arce an them don't, but G-Rig.. Better make sure huh? loool!
Cshel86
He better NOT be trying to weasel his way outta this one! It seems that the reports are conflicting a bit, so I'm not sure what to believe right now.
mgrover
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Feb 20 2013, 03:15 PM) *
Is it me or is Donaire really tryna back out of this fight? I mean Rigo says he wants a contract in Spanish before he signs it, seeing as he can only speak Spanish, this is fine..

As soon as Donaire hears about any kind of delay in the contract signing, he's instantly reporting to the media that there are problems and that he will look elsewhere?!

Plus lets not forget how they started throwing Vic's name around all of a sudden too???

I like Nonito as a fighter, and he generally has taken challenging fights, or at least worthy fighters. However this recent aversion to a fight with G-Rig is kinda weird. Mares he gets a pass due to the whole GBP/TR mess. That is not the case in regards to G-Rig tho...

Oh and you guys are right, what happened to the whole, " I don't care if my opponent takes the tests" crap Nonito was talking. You don't care if Arce an them don't, but G-Rig.. Better make sure huh? loool!


its probably because of the stuff thats come out about Gamboa that he's a bit nervous about.
Slumpage
QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 20 2013, 10:32 AM) *
its probably because of the stuff thats come out about Gamboa that he's a bit nervous about.


Maybe...

But the only link between Gamboa and G-Rig is nationality I think. Plus his name wasn't in the notepads with everyone elses and Gamboa's... So if that is his reasoning, its a bit boo really. If anything I see it as more of an attempt to establish a link between the Cuban Olympian Gamboa's alleged PED use and the also former Cuban Olympian G-Rig. Like he's suggesting it, when all G-Rig did was ask for a translated version of the contract.

Either way, that still doesn't explain the change in attitude Nonito's had. From "let them juice so long as i'm clean" to "hey, I need to make sure this guy aint cheating yo". To me, that speaks more on his perception of G-Rig as a threat than anything else. Besides, G-Rig was the one who said he wanted to do the testing, so its unlikely that testing was ever an issue for him. He prob wasn't even looking to get the contract in Spanish for that purpose. He probably just wanted to make sure he wasn't signing anything stupid financially or otherwise.

That said, i'm of the opinon that at least all title fights should have some kind of stricter testing. So i'm not 100% against Donaire's stance, just the way he's gone about it in this instance.
mgrover
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Feb 20 2013, 03:43 PM) *
Maybe...

But the only link between Gamboa and G-Rig is nationality I think. Plus his name wasn't in the notepads with everyone elses and Gamboa's... So if that is his reasoning, its a bit boo really. If anything I see it as more of an attempt to establish a link between the Cuban Olympian Gamboa's alleged PED use and the also former Cuban Olympian G-Rig. Like he's suggesting it, when all G-Rig did was ask for a translated version of the contract.

Either way, that still doesn't explain the change in attitude Nonito's had. From "let them juice so long as i'm clean" to "hey, I need to make sure this guy aint cheating yo". To me, that speaks more on his perception of G-Rig as a threat than anything else. Besides, G-Rig was the one who said he wanted to do the testing, so its unlikely that testing was ever an issue for him. He prob wasn't even looking to get the contract in Spanish for that purpose. He probably just wanted to make sure he wasn't signing anything stupid financially or otherwise.

That said, i'm of the opinon that at least all title fights should have some kind of stricter testing. So i'm not 100% against Donaire's stance, just the way he's gone about it in this instance.


What'd be nice is if you can just have like a press conference for contract signing, makes it so much harder for people to back out from shit haha
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 19 2013, 09:55 PM) *
Duck. Donaire has been ducking the top guys in every division for like 2 years now...

Edit: just read a report that said Rigo has no problem with testing. Sounds more like Donaire is having cold feet, Btw did nishioka, arce, or mathebula do testing?


yeah...he sounds petrified to me. it was too easy for him to state that his contract hasn't been signed yet and that he doesn't have to fight rigondeaux. i remember hearing that rigondeaux agreed to testing as well.

great point about nishioka, arce and mathebula...and exactly the one i was trying to make.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Slumpage @ Feb 20 2013, 10:15 AM) *
Is it me or is Donaire really tryna back out of this fight? I mean Rigo says he wants a contract in Spanish before he signs it, seeing as he can only speak Spanish, this is fine..

As soon as Donaire hears about any kind of delay in the contract signing, he's instantly reporting to the media that there are problems and that he will look elsewhere?!

Plus lets not forget how they started throwing Vic's name around all of a sudden too???

I like Nonito as a fighter, and he generally has taken challenging fights, or at least worthy fighters. However this recent aversion to a fight with G-Rig is kinda weird. Mares he gets a pass due to the whole GBP/TR mess. That is not the case in regards to G-Rig tho...

Oh and you guys are right, what happened to the whole, " I don't care if my opponent takes the tests" crap Nonito was talking. You don't care if Arce an them don't, but G-Rig.. Better make sure huh? loool!


seriously...this guy is losing credibility by the second.
sduck
I wonder what he'd be scared of...
mrchitown
Now he's threatening to pull out again because allegedly Rigo's signature on the contract for VADA testing was not his own, and he gave a 12pm ultimatum to Team Rigondeaux or he says he's pulling out. He's also complaining about Heredia being in Rigo's camp. He said he has concerns with Rigo working with a known PED supplier, this clown is forgetting that he's closely linked to Conte

And Arum has just came out and said he was there when Rigondeaux signed the VADA contract, somebody's full of shit and I'm starting to think it's Nonito "flabby" Donaire
mgrover
QUOTE
ADMIN: According to Nonito, after verifying that USADA was not even contacted by Rigondeaux's team via USADAs news release, and the sudden inability to attain a phone number or whereabout of Rigondeaux for VADA, Dunkin will release a statement based on the contractual obligations required in his contract for the validity of this fight. Thank u for ur support in cleaning the sport.

well...fuck this fight better happen
Dolimite
http://www.boxingscene.com/team-rigondeaux...a-claims--62744

The Filipino Flab don't want any of Rigondeaux. He might get exposed. Rigo is just as fast if not faster and he packs a punch. Yeah he don't want any.
checkleft
QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 20 2013, 11:22 AM) *
What'd be nice is if you can just have like a press conference for contract signing, makes it so much harder for people to back out from shit haha

That's what I'm talking about!


QUOTE (daprofessor @ Feb 20 2013, 01:11 PM) *
yeah...he sounds petrified to me. it was too easy for him to state that his contract hasn't been signed yet and that he doesn't have to fight rigondeaux. i remember hearing that rigondeaux agreed to testing as well.

great point about nishioka, arce and mathebula...and exactly the one i was trying to make.

I got that, just trying to work off your point. Now that the guy in the other corner has a pulse he starts testing his opponents?

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Feb 24 2013, 12:52 AM) *
Now he's threatening to pull out again because allegedly Rigo's signature on the contract for VADA testing was not his own, and he gave a 12pm ultimatum to Team Rigondeaux or he says he's pulling out. He's also complaining about Heredia being in Rigo's camp. He said he has concerns with Rigo working with a known PED supplier, this clown is forgetting that he's closely linked to Conte

And Arum has just came out and said he was there when Rigondeaux signed the VADA contract, somebody's full of shit and I'm starting to think it's Nonito "flabby" Donaire

Exactly, heredia and conte are like brothers from another mother. This dude is starting to grow feathers, he keeps this shit up he'll get a sponsorship from aflak
mgrover
Supposedly he's said he's signing it anyway. Signing it today even am praying lol
checkleft
QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 25 2013, 05:02 AM) *
Supposedly he's said he's signing it anyway. Signing it today even am praying lol

Let's hope so. I've been waiting for him to have a legitimately opponent to see what he's about because its undeniable that he has shown flashes of brilliance, and now that he possibly is facing a threat he starts coming out with this stuff..? If this fight doesn't happen I'm done taking this guy serious on any level. I mean Rigo nearly got kod his last fight and he's way smaller than donaire, Wtf is this guys deal.
mgrover
QUOTE (checkleft @ Feb 25 2013, 01:42 PM) *
Let's hope so. I've been waiting for him to have a legitimately opponent to see what he's about because its undeniable that he has shown flashes of brilliance, and now that he possibly is facing a threat he starts coming out with this stuff..? If this fight doesn't happen I'm done taking this guy serious on any level. I mean Rigo nearly got kod his last fight and he's way smaller than donaire, Wtf is this guys deal.


If he kept a cool head I think he'd win the fight. But if he keeps going on this way, I think he'll actually get in his own way too much.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 24 2013, 07:04 PM) *
http://www.boxingscene.com/team-rigondeaux...a-claims--62744

The Filipino Flab don't want any of Rigondeaux. He might get exposed. Rigo is just as fast if not faster and he packs a punch. Yeah he don't want any.


i watched an interview where he started out with that same bullshit "he isn't worthy, blah,blah,blah..." and he went on to switch his tone. he knows rigondeaux is a threat and i can sense the fear. he knows this is going to be his toughest fight to date. if he was scared of nishioka...and that dude made him think and work hard...it's about to get real. i honestly believe it's an even fight....and it's a super fight. i just hate to see nonito make himself look bad with all these bullshit excuses and contradictions. just shut the fuck up...let your management take care of shit...prepare for the fight and let your fighting speak for you!!!

on a side note...i'm with the poster on that link who stated...'i'll believe nonito is clean when he stops working with conte.' anyone who thinks conte is the bad guy gone good...i have a bridge i want to sell you.
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