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Jack 1000
They ripped each other apart for six and half rounds, in a fight compared to many of boxing's classic brawls! Will anything be different this time? Can Alverado win? If Alverado wins, do you think they might have a trilogy in the style of Gatti-Ward?

Predict and comment!

Jack

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Plah
Ríos by TKO again. Pointless fight imo. And they're not classic boxers, they're 2 guys hitting each other at will with little to no defense.
leonthegee
Rios will win. He shouldnt even be fighting this dude again. Ya the first fight was good but Rios should be looking to make bigger moves. A fight with Alvarado is a lateral move at best. But Top Rank dont have the roster. He has no choice but to fight the same dudes over again. He should be fighting Bradley. Rios is a bum. His chin wont hold up against the top contenders at 140. But he'll win this fight by KO.
Franchize
I see this happening the same way. Alvarado will start outboxing Rios but it will be too tempting to revert back to his old ways because Rios is so easy to hit. Then he'll get KO'd
sduck
There's two possible outcomes with this rematch. Either the same fight, or Alverado brushes up on his skills and beats Rios, then we'll possibly have a trilogy.
Jack 1000
I voted Rios by TKO. Same as the first fight. There's maybe a 10% chance that Alverado could try to box, and win forcing a trilogy. However, 5% of that 10% just left town. hahahaha! Alverado and Rios and natural brawlers. Rios can't box (i.e Abril) and Alverado can't really either. (or won't.) This is reflective of so many of boxing's classic brawls of the past. Except neither of these guys has the experience or skill to compete with legendary brawlers. However, in today's world of boxing where classic wars and guys are not fighting as often as in the past, I am thrilled to see it again. But no trilogy unless we get some controversy, or a tactical Alverado win. The chances of this being another brawl are high and intense!

Jack
daprofessor
My prediction....very little defense...very many landed punches...bumps and bruises...damaged brain cells....and no where enough money for the amount of time that will be removed from each guys career. Both guys will have severe headaches afterwards. Lampley and merchant jr will shit their pants with excitement.
Jack 1000
What I don't get,

I understand that critics of this rematch would like to see these guys move up in there careers. I can understand that I guess. But why was it OK for Gatti and Ward to fight each other three times, but for some its not OK for Rios and Alverado to fight twice? I think that the second Ward and Gatti fights are over-ratede by the media, but we are still getting two guys who want to give the fans another great show, are ready to go to war and thrill the fans again! Jake Lamotta and Sugar Ray Robinson fought six brutal fights in a relatively short time frame and no one talked about them fighting too much.

At the same time, boxing is much more safety conscious today than when Robinson and Lamotta fought. But the Ward-Gatti trilogy was not that long ago. It's hard to draw that comparison, fans loving the brawls of the past, wishing for more today, but there is the health concerns that people have today where brawls with tough, but B-grade level fighters lead to shorter careers.

Sometimes I think there is too much caution today, and I would like to go back in time to the classic boxing of the 40's-70's. However, back than, we didn't have all the medical evidence that is now available.

The thing with Rios and Alverado is that, I think they are made for each other to produce wars, BUT neither can box well, so if either of these guys move up to fight someone who can box and box well, they are likely to lose. The public today has a short memory, and when they lose to a boxer, Rios-Alverado I will gradually fade. Doing this rematch, gets boxers who are evenly matched, fighting each other, away from the politics and bullshit with too many bigger guys who don't fight each other. Too many fighters today don't fight in the championship unification matches, and don't fight often enough.

Let's just hope for another great fight, and at the same time, the proper rest and health consideration if either or both take too many shots.

Jack
Cshel86
Good stuff Jack

I'm not all that pumped for this one, maybe because it seemed to have come too soon. As a boxing fan, I have no reason to complain, because I'd be more pissed if both of these two were matched against bums...so I'll proudly stfu in those regards. laugh.gif

The one thing that I'm not on board with, is the whole Gatti/Ward comparison...or the hopes of it being "the next" Gatti/Ward trilogy. I believe that the media and HBO should allow it to be whatever it becomes. I appreciated Pac/Morales, Pac/JMM, Morales/Barrera, Gatti/Ward, Marquez/Vasquez, Bowe/Holyfield, for what they were.

I believe that Alvarado/Rios has been plagued by media expectations..

I have Alvarado by a hard decision in this one. I believe that he'll be smarter this time around, and only engage in spurts, to preserve some type of excitement in the fight. Regardless of what the crowd expects, he will play it safe in this one...that way, he can secure a rubber match, even if it's not immediate.

Alvarado doesn't have much to look forward to, if he loses this one. Who's out there for him? Bradley? Marquez (maybe)? Rios on the other hand, can be promoted to a decent extent, and land bigger fights. So, Rios can get outboxed in this one (as we've seen before), and STILL have something to look forward to, unlike Mike.

checkleft
QUOTE (Plah @ Mar 20 2013, 05:59 PM) *
Ríos by TKO again. Pointless fight imo. And they're not classic boxers, they're 2 guys hitting each other at will with little to no defense.

I did not think everyone would see things like me. Doubt rios will lose even if he gets outboxed. It seems to me arum is gonna juice this boy up to the media to be the new cesar chavez and milk it until the utters look like raisins. I just get the feeling he will fight alvarado win by Tko or robbery fight some light touches then eventually fight very aged pac and marquez to bump his resume and then the "everyone is ducking rios" saga will begin, which of course is not true its just that gbp owns about the whole welterweight/Jr welterweight division.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Mar 24 2013, 12:14 AM) *
What I don't get,

I understand that critics of this rematch would like to see these guys move up in there careers. I can understand that I guess. But why was it OK for Gatti and Ward to fight each other three times, but for some its not OK for Rios and Alverado to fight twice? I think that the second Ward and Gatti fights are over-ratede by the media, but we are still getting two guys who want to give the fans another great show, are ready to go to war and thrill the fans again! Jake Lamotta and Sugar Ray Robinson fought six brutal fights in a relatively short time frame and no one talked about them fighting too much.

At the same time, boxing is much more safety conscious today than when Robinson and Lamotta fought. But the Ward-Gatti trilogy was not that long ago. It's hard to draw that comparison, fans loving the brawls of the past, wishing for more today, but there is the health concerns that people have today where brawls with tough, but B-grade level fighters lead to shorter careers.

Sometimes I think there is too much caution today, and I would like to go back in time to the classic boxing of the 40's-70's. However, back than, we didn't have all the medical evidence that is now available.

The thing with Rios and Alverado is that, I think they are made for each other to produce wars, BUT neither can box well, so if either of these guys move up to fight someone who can box and box well, they are likely to lose. The public today has a short memory, and when they lose to a boxer, Rios-Alverado I will gradually fade. Doing this rematch, gets boxers who are evenly matched, fighting each other, away from the politics and bullshit with too many bigger guys who don't fight each other. Too many fighters today don't fight in the championship unification matches, and don't fight often enough.

Let's just hope for another great fight, and at the same time, the proper rest and health consideration if either or both take too many shots.

Jack



honestly, i'm not a fan of the gatti/ward trilogy. the first fight was enough for me. i didn't need the next two. also...same can be said for the vasquez/marquez 2,3,4.

i am a fan of the morales/barerra trilogy, pac/morales trilogy and marquez/pac 1-4. those guys did not lack in skill and they didn't beat each other senseless for the most part.
The Original MrFactor
Alvarado seemed to be in control of the 1st fight. Then got drawn into a brawl and got caught and stopped. i see him simply boxing and eventially stopping Rios by the middle rounds. A comfortable win by Alvarado, in a fight that slightly disappoints.
Cshel86
Am I the only one that voted for Alvarado by close decision???

Something tells me that he's just gonna box the whole time...

But wait...the media is expecting this rematch to top Bradley/Provodnikov?! I soooo hope that Alvarado doesn't get sucked into another tit-for-tat fight. If so, he needs to take the pointers that his corner was trying to give him the first time around.
Jack 1000
From Yahoo Sports,

Alverado from the first fight admits that he had no game plan other than to fight and says "I will do the same thing, but with fewer mistakes."

Story here:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--slugg...-181555756.html

Jack
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