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Dolimite
Yesterday was a display of what boxing is about. Hit and not get hit. Rigondeaux put on a boxing clinic and had a virtuoso performance against a so called top 5 pound for pound fighter. Many people believed because Rigondeaux did not stand and one place to trade shots they viewed the fight as being boring or Rigondeaux running. However fighters like Rios, Alvarado, Pacquiao, Marquez, Morales, Bradley, and a slue of other fighters who stand toe to toe and take punishment are considered "real" boxers.

What concerns me about the above mentioned fighters are they will have serious health issues after their career is over. Here are my list of fighters that I feel will have serious health issues after their career is over, please add to the list if I missed any fighters.

1. Rios
2. Alvarado
3. Pacquiao
4. Marquez
5. Bradley (if starts fighting like he did against Ruslan)
6. Ruslan P.
7. Paulie M. (he gets hit way to much for my liking)
8. El Perro Agulo (spelling is off, sorry)
9. Kermit Cintron
10. Victor Ortiz
11. Khan (he gets hit way too much)
emd01
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 07:00 AM) *
Yesterday was a display of what boxing is about. Hit and not get hit. Rigondeaux put on a boxing clinic and had a virtuoso performance against a so called top 5 pound for pound fighter. Many people believed because Rigondeaux did not stand and one place to trade shots they viewed the fight as being boring or Rigondeaux running. However fighters like Rios, Alvarado, Pacquiao, Marquez, Morales, Bradley, and a slue of other fighters who stand toe to toe and take punishment are considered "real" boxers.

What concerns me about the above mentioned fighters are they will have serious health issues after their career is over. Here are my list of fighters that I feel will have serious health issues after their career is over, please add to the list if I missed any fighters.

1. Rios
2. Alvarado
3. Pacquiao
4. Marquez
5. Bradley (if starts fighting like he did against Ruslan)
6. Ruslan P.
7. Paulie M. (he gets hit way to much for my liking)
8. El Perro Agulo (spelling is off, sorry)
9. Kermit Cintron
10. Victor Ortiz
11. Khan (he gets hit way too much)

12. Zab Judah
13. Shane Mosley
14. Lamont Paterson
pimpfighterROQ
It really depends on how a person is. Just because a fighter took punches does not mean they will suffer health issues. Look at Julio Caesar Chavez. Guy had more than a 100 fights and he's more alert and oriented than his son. Marvin Hagler is doin fine hell even Holyfield and Tyson are doing great.


It really does depend. Its like a lottery. But every punch they take brings them closer to those health problems.
BrutUalBK
Toney, he already slurs terribly.
mgrover
Holyfield was terrible when he was still fighting hard.
Dolimite
QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Apr 14 2013, 07:52 AM) *
It really depends on how a person is. Just because a fighter took punches does not mean they will suffer health issues. Look at Julio Caesar Chavez. Guy had more than a 100 fights and he's more alert and oriented than his son. Marvin Hagler is doin fine hell even Holyfield and Tyson are doing great.


It really does depend. Its like a lottery. But every punch they take brings them closer to those health problems.

Just cause they look good does not mean they are. Hearns always looks like he is lost or has no idea where he is, Haglere left the game early cause he really didn't like boxing so he went to shoot movies. So he got out when he still had brain cells. Holyfield looks drunk and if you hear and look at Tyson's movements and speech he seems to get confused but they are not as apparent as others. Duran even looks slow. Chavez Sr. looks slow and old. But maybe that has to be with his drug use and a combination of getting hit in the head. So who knows.
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (emd01 @ Apr 14 2013, 10:20 AM) *
12. Zab Judah
13. Shane Mosley
14. Lamont Paterson

15. Robert Guerrero (his last couple and his next one)

Agree with Kahn. After he gets rocked, his heart comes out and then keeps getting tagged....
bMaK
All of them. Y'all look at the damage they take in the fights, or the lack of damage for some, and always overlook the work they put in in the gym.
bMaK
Sweet Pea was a great defensive fighter. Today he still looks and sounds like shit.

Floyd is arguably the greatest defensive fighter in boxing. He's got a permanent busted rib, has had issues with a knee, elbow, and shoulder.

I'm pretty sure his hands are gonna be killing him when he gets up in age.
mrchitown
You could make the case that anyone who steps thru those ropes will end up having health issues. Just because a fighter is defensive doesn't mean they're immune from it, though brawlers would immediately set off alarms for something like this, you really just have to wait and see how it plays out
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 02:36 PM) *
Just cause they look good does not mean they are. Hearns always looks like he is lost or has no idea where he is, Haglere left the game early cause he really didn't like boxing so he went to shoot movies. So he got out when he still had brain cells. Holyfield looks drunk and if you hear and look at Tyson's movements and speech he seems to get confused but they are not as apparent as others. Duran even looks slow. Chavez Sr. looks slow and old. But maybe that has to be with his drug use and a combination of getting hit in the head. So who knows.


I'd attribute that to more of his lifestyle outside the ring then in it
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 14 2013, 06:06 PM) *
I'd attribute that to more of his lifestyle outside the ring then in it

touche but I am sure taking blows to the head did not help.
neophyte7
QUOTE (pimpfighterROQ @ Apr 14 2013, 11:52 AM) *
It really depends on how a person is. Just because a fighter took punches does not mean they will suffer health issues. Look at Julio Caesar Chavez. Guy had more than a 100 fights and he's more alert and oriented than his son. Marvin Hagler is doin fine hell even Holyfield and Tyson are doing great.


It really does depend. Its like a lottery. But every punch they take brings them closer to those health problems.




good points--- JAKE LOMATTA WAS BORN IN 1922-- LOOKS good and can talk pretty well.. He took loads of punches---
bnoles4life
QUOTE (bMaK @ Apr 14 2013, 09:50 PM) *
All of them. Y'all look at the damage they take in the fights, or the lack of damage for some, and always overlook the work they put in in the gym.


STG, I was going to mention the endless rounds of sparring, as well. So, I'll go w/ all of them, too.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (bMaK @ Apr 14 2013, 09:55 PM) *
Sweet Pea was a great defensive fighter. Today he still looks and sounds like shit.

Floyd is arguably the greatest defensive fighter in boxing. He's got a permanent busted rib, has had issues with a knee, elbow, and shoulder.

I'm pretty sure his hands are gonna be killing him when he gets up in age.


I'd attribute that more to the "nose candy" than what happened inside the ring....though, I'm sure being punched in the head may exacerbated his troubles.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 10:00 AM) *
Yesterday was a display of what boxing is about. Hit and not get hit. Rigondeaux put on a boxing clinic and had a virtuoso performance against a so called top 5 pound for pound fighter. Many people believed because Rigondeaux did not stand and one place to trade shots they viewed the fight as being boring or Rigondeaux running. However fighters like Rios, Alvarado, Pacquiao, Marquez, Morales, Bradley, and a slue of other fighters who stand toe to toe and take punishment are considered "real" boxers.

What concerns me about the above mentioned fighters are they will have serious health issues after their career is over. Here are my list of fighters that I feel will have serious health issues after their career is over, please add to the list if I missed any fighters.

1. Rios
2. Alvarado
3. Pacquiao
4. Marquez
5. Bradley (if starts fighting like he did against Ruslan)
6. Ruslan P.
7. Paulie M. (he gets hit way to much for my liking)
8. El Perro Agulo (spelling is off, sorry)
9. Kermit Cintron
10. Victor Ortiz
11. Khan (he gets hit way too much)


paulie doesn't belong on that list. even when he took beatings against cotto and hatton...it wasn't no where near what the others suffered. i'd take marquez off that list too.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 14 2013, 09:06 PM) *
You could make the case that anyone who steps thru those ropes will end up having health issues. Just because a fighter is defensive doesn't mean they're immune from it, though brawlers would immediately set off alarms for something like this, you really just have to wait and see how it plays out


i'll agree with this...most of the damage occurs in the gym.
daprofessor
QUOTE (bMaK @ Apr 14 2013, 08:50 PM) *
All of them. Y'all look at the damage they take in the fights, or the lack of damage for some, and always overlook the work they put in in the gym.


missed this. exactly. how u been B!?
Cshel86
All fighters deal with some type of health issue after their career is over, even if it's just a nagging injury. Some will have waaaay worse injuries than the others though.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 07:57 PM) *
All fighters deal with some type of health issue after their career is over, even if it's just a nagging injury. Some will have waaaay worse injuries than the others though.


i didn't even make it to the pros and i have a bad shoulder...and joint pain in my wrist and knuckles. sad.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 08:00 PM) *
i didn't even make it to the pros and i have a bad shoulder...and joint pain in my wrist and knuckles. sad.gif

And there you have it people.

I think Oscar's back still bothers him to this day....Tyson too. That shit catches up eventually.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 09:17 PM) *
And there you have it people.

I think Oscar's back still bothers him to this day....Tyson too. That shit catches up eventually.


u learn to live with it....but it's there....reminding u....everyday.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 10:26 PM) *
u learn to live with it....but it's there....reminding u....everyday.

Right. Funny how guys think you have to be in Gatti/Ward type fights to sustain lifelong injuries. From guys I know that have fought and/or still fighting, have complained that the nagging injuries are the worst.
Gambit808
I see your point with this post, but if I think of the "Big Picture" I can argue that pretty much all fighters are affected health wise with boxing long term, even Floyd Mayweather with his hands and ribs. This is apart of these guys life's and I think anything but some sort of health issues after a full career, is one lucky iron built MF lol.
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