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Dolimite
Since Marquez and Bradley have no interest in fighting Pacquaio in September, who will be Pacman's next opponent? I do not think it would be Rios or Mile High Mike because of the war they were in earlier this year. They both should fight a soft opponent and not a major challenge like Pac. The options that I see Pac can have are all at the 140 mark. 147 is then unless Pac wants to fight someone like Devon Alexander or even possibly Lamont Peterson which would be interesting I do not see much pickings at 147. Pac could fight Zab Judah if he has a good showing against Danny Garcia, I am actually picking Danny to win that fight. He can fight either Marcos Madaina or his fellow country and Matthysee. Which would be a slug fest from the first bell. I am wondering what Arum will do because clearly the match up he wants is not going his way. So I guess we will see who he picks. Does anyone have a clue? I would not be surprised if Bob made an announcement about Pac's next opponent during the weekend of May 4th. It would be smart for him to do.
emd01
I think the Bobfather will finally get his way and we'll see Pac/JMM 5. He's going to make JMM an offer he cant refuse eventually.
pimpfighterROQ
Biggest bet right now would be Alvarado. No use in Arum putting Rios in right now for Pacquiao since he just lost. Even if Pac beats him, critics will say oh he beat a fighter who just lost his last fight. Pac needs to fight a winner that will make him look good. Alvarado is a good bet imo. Alvarado can move up to 147 or a catchweight for Alvarado's belt LOL.

Rios can fight Provodnikov at 147 then later meet with Alvarado again as welterweights.


Who knows what Bob is cookin...
mgrover
Pac vs Gamboa you heard it here haha
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 10:06 AM) *
Since Marquez and Bradley have no interest in fighting Pacquaio in September, who will be Pacman's next opponent? I do not think it would be Rios or Mile High Mike because of the war they were in earlier this year. They both should fight a soft opponent and not a major challenge like Pac. The options that I see Pac can have are all at the 140 mark. 147 is then unless Pac wants to fight someone like Devon Alexander or even possibly Lamont Peterson which would be interesting I do not see much pickings at 147. Pac could fight Zab Judah if he has a good showing against Danny Garcia, I am actually picking Danny to win that fight. He can fight either Marcos Madaina or his fellow country and Matthysee. Which would be a slug fest from the first bell. I am wondering what Arum will do because clearly the match up he wants is not going his way. So I guess we will see who he picks. Does anyone have a clue? I would not be surprised if Bob made an announcement about Pac's next opponent during the weekend of May 4th. It would be smart for him to do.



Bob Arum isn't stupid enough to put MP in with a puncher like Lucas!! I will say that should for whatever reason the JMM 5 fight doesn't happen then his safest bet is to face TB because at least we know he won't get KO'd. Bradley will humiliate him again as long as he box him but if he chooses to slug like he did vs Prov then he will get ktfo.

Personally I'd rather see him try to clear his loss to Bradley but i suspect that BA wants to try and resurrect some of MP's so called "aura of invincibility" then he'd have to match him with the likes of Rios or other come forward fighters with no defense.

Bradley deserves another chance to show that he clearly beat MP.
mgrover
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 14 2013, 07:40 PM) *
Bob Arum isn't stupid enough to put MP in with a puncher like Lucas!! I will say that should for whatever reason the JMM 5 fight doesn't happen then his safest bet is to face TB because at least we know he won't get KO'd. Bradley will humiliate him again as long as he box him but if he chooses to slug like he did vs Prov then he will get ktfo.

Personally I'd rather see him try to clear his loss to Bradley but i suspect that BA wants to try and resurrect some of MP's so called "aura of invincibility" then he'd have to match him with the likes of Rios or other come forward fighters with no defense.

Bradley deserves another chance to show that he clearly beat MP.


Forget stupid enough, I think were all forgetting who represents Lucas.

Also while I want Bradley to fight Pac I want him to just fight Marquez first, or someone with decent punching power, and him to take it and not get hurt. I can see if Pac gets him and drops him because Bradley decides to trade, all we'll here is Prodnikov ruined his chin first.

Whose that dude that used to be in Mayweather Promotions? Jessie Vargas? It'll probably be him next.
Dolimite
Bradley doesn't want the Pac fight. Both Marquez and Bradley want to fight each other and the match makes more sense than Pac fighting either one of them. I would not put Mike Alvarado against Pac after the war he took. Jessie Vargas is a good name but not a big name and Pac needs a big name. He should of fought Mayweather for that 40 million at least we would have gotten a second fight by now but oh well.

I think his options are slim, unless he wants to bring Erik Morales out of retirement.
The Original MrFactor
Juan Diaz! Pac will get a light touch in his return. Juan Diaz makes for good, action fights. He's a high volume pillow puncher who will make Pac look good. Pac will stop Diaz in a barn burner of a fight. It may go 4 or 5 rounds, then everyone can announce that Pac is back!
Jovi
Zab judah doesn't sound like a bad idea at all for a Pacquiao comeback fight.

Well its going to have to be someone Manny can look good against.

I think he may finally give Rios his chance.
Cshel86
Pac/JMM V on September 14th, 2013

Fellas, mark this down in your Hello Kitty calendars.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2013, 03:53 PM) *
Pac/JMM V on September 14th, 2013

Fellas, mark this down in your Hello Kitty calendars.

Not happening! Marquez has no reason to fight him and has stated he is no puppet and is not going to fight him. Mark it on your One Direction Calender that Marquez and Bradley will be fighting each other and Pac will be fighting Jessie Vargas or Erik M.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 07:08 PM) *
Not happening! Marquez has no reason to fight him and has stated he is no puppet and is not going to fight him. Mark it on your One Direction Calender that Marquez and Bradley will be fighting each other and Pac will be fighting Jessie Vargas or Erik M.

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C'mon Dolimite, put the bong away, or at least pass it.

Marquez is damn near 40, and he's looking for about $10-15 million dollars...no way in hell he gets that much fighting Bradley. So yes, he DOES have a reason to fight Manny, because nobody else is gonna bring him anything close to what he's asking for. I'd be surprised if he even gets $3M for a Bradley fight.

The fact that Marquez vs Bradley isn't a PPV-worthy fight, should tell you a lot. NOW, had Bradley at least knocked Manny down last summer, then we can push for a JMM/TB fight, but still, JMM aint getting the money that he's looking for, in a Bradley fight.

Didn't Marquez play the whole, "I'm not a puppet" card before the 4th fight was made? He just knocked Manny the hell out in that fight, so you cant tell me that Arum cant make a 5th fight. I agree that JMM should make a bit more in the 5th fight, maybe $3M more, but not 10-15 million.

Let's face it, Manny can go fight somebody else, and still crack about $20M, but JMM doesn't have that luxury. Hmm.... rolleyes_anim.gif
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2013, 03:22 PM) *
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C'mon Dolimite, put the bong away, or at least pass it.

Marquez is damn near 40, and he's looking for about $10-15 million dollars...no way in hell he gets that much fighting Bradley. So yes, he DOES have a reason to fight Manny, because nobody else is gonna bring him anything close to what he's asking for. I'd be surprised if he even gets $3M for a Bradley fight.

The fact that Marquez vs Bradley isn't a PPV-worthy fight, should tell you a lot. NOW, had Bradley at least knocked Manny down last summer, then we can push for a JMM/TB fight, but still, JMM aint getting the money that he's looking for, in a Bradley fight.

Didn't Marquez play the whole, "I'm not a puppet" card before the 4th fight was made? He just knocked Manny the hell out in that fight, so you cant tell me that Arum cant make a 5th fight. I agree that JMM should make a bit more in the 5th fight, maybe $3M more, but not 10-15 million.

Let's face it, Manny can go fight somebody else, and still crack about $20M, but JMM doesn't have that luxury. Hmm.... rolleyes_anim.gif

Manny makes 20 million dollars!!!! WHO KNEW!

I ain't passing shit, you ain't put nothing on this buddy! LOL. So you think JMM is playing hardball. The question I have besides money and I know money motivates everything, what other reason would he have to fight Pac? He put him to bed there is nothing that can top that nothing. So why ruin a great moment in sports history? If I am JMM I am fighting Bradley and then Rios call it a career.
bMaK
Couldn't care less. Hopefully it would be his promoter and this fool would take control of his own career.
mrchitown
If it aint JMM, I'd expect to see him in with someone who'll make him look good and make it seems like he's re-energized. I'd say Vargas but he don't bring dollars to the table. I could see it as a possibility though.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 09:43 PM) *
Manny makes 20 million dollars!!!! WHO KNEW!

I ain't passing shit, you ain't put nothing on this buddy! LOL. So you think JMM is playing hardball. The question I have besides money and I know money motivates everything, what other reason would he have to fight Pac? He put him to bed there is nothing that can top that nothing. So why ruin a great moment in sports history? If I am JMM I am fighting Bradley and then Rios call it a career.

At least on "paper", he's cracking $20M! laugh.gif

C'mon D, dont be like that, pass it homie. If I had a live bong going, you and anybody around here could take a toke, or two. Sharing is caring my brother...sharing is caring. LOL

JMM played hardball for the 3rd and 4th fight, who's to say that he wont play it again? Fact is, every time he's played, we always say him across the ring from Manny when the final word was spoken...and it WASN'T because of what he wanted.

Money is ALWAYS the key...always. Okay he knocked Manny out, mission accomplished. THIS time, he simply wants to know how much he can make for "possibly" make for doing it "again". What he can make against Bradley and Rios, he can make it ALL (plus more) against a guy that he was comfortable against and just KTFO, so why not do it again, rather than taking two uncharted chances for lesser money?

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 14 2013, 10:15 PM) *
If it aint JMM, I'd expect to see him in with someone who'll make him look good and make it seems like he's re-energized. I'd say Vargas but he don't bring dollars to the table. I could see it as a possibility though.

Right. Manny has that luxury, not Juan. Juan fought Fedchenko after the 3rd Manny fight, and the numbers weren't even worth mentioning....it was merely an exhibition. Manny on the other hand, went on to fight Bradley after the 3rd JMM clash, and scored about 700k buys and some PPV money.

I agree, Vargas doesn't bring any money. Bob will break his ass to promote Manny's next fight, but yeah, Vargas just wont make the cut. Lol
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 14 2013, 06:31 PM) *
At least on "paper", he's cracking $20M! laugh.gif

C'mon D, dont be like that, pass it homie. If I had a live bong going, you and anybody around here could take a toke, or two. Sharing is caring my brother...sharing is caring. LOL

JMM played hardball for the 3rd and 4th fight, who's to say that he wont play it again? Fact is, every time he's played, we always say him across the ring from Manny when the final word was spoken...and it WASN'T because of what he wanted.

Money is ALWAYS the key...always. Okay he knocked Manny out, mission accomplished. THIS time, he simply wants to know how much he can make for "possibly" make for doing it "again". What he can make against Bradley and Rios, he can make it ALL (plus more) against a guy that he was comfortable against and just KTFO, so why not do it again, rather than taking two uncharted chances for lesser money?


Right. Manny has that luxury, not Juan. Juan fought Fedchenko after the 3rd Manny fight, and the numbers weren't even worth mentioning....it was merely an exhibition. Manny on the other hand, went on to fight Bradley after the 3rd JMM clash, and scored about 700k buys and some PPV money.

I agree, Vargas doesn't bring any money. Bob will break his ass to promote Manny's next fight, but yeah, Vargas just wont make the cut. Lol


Aight, puff puff give! Puff puff give!!

Cshel what if Manny gets the NightQuil treatment again, you mind as well call it his career because people will say, this guy is washed up and maybe a hack. The Mayweather fight is dead, if he gets put to bed again not only is that fight dead, his career as well. Manny has everything to lose if he fights Marquez again. He should take on Jessie Vargas for a tune up then fight again either in December or January. That is what I would do.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 14 2013, 10:39 PM) *
Aight, puff puff give! Puff puff give!!

Cshel what if Manny gets the NightQuil treatment again, you mind as well call it his career because people will say, this guy is washed up and maybe a hack. The Mayweather fight is dead, if he gets put to bed again not only is that fight dead, his career as well. Manny has everything to lose if he fights Marquez again. He should take on Jessie Vargas for a tune up then fight again either in December or January. That is what I would do.

At this point, he's more vulnerable (mentally & physically) to get the Nyquil treatment, lol. We all saw how Paul Williams got floored by Sergio, then 8 months later, we all cringed as he fought Lara, with the thought in the back of our minds or seeing him in that position again.

IF he's able to come back and KO JMM, then the Mayweather fight is just as much alive now, as it ever was. Sad, but true. Though us hardcore fans who it wont ever happen, at least the public will have something to hang on to.

Manny has nothing more to lose, if he loses to Marquez. At least he would have lost to a guy that stopped him, after 3 attempts. NOW, if he got floored by a guy like Vargas, then yes, he should call it a career.
mgrover
He Should fight me I need the money and damn deposit for this house is expensive as shit. We could do a ten round exhibition were I move to the left and hope for the best lol
sduck
He should probably fight Cotto again, with fair stipulations.
aTYpicalTYrant
I don't know...... IF Marquez really prefers a 5th Title over a 5th match with Pac, Arum could just Put Pac in a position to get his belt back from Bradley. That would put Marquez in a position in which he STILL has to fight Pac to get a belt he feels is rightfully his. I'm just speculating though....
mrchitown
I'm seeing stuff on twitter from some boxing site accounts right now that says he and Alvarado will be fighting Oct 8th
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 05:34 PM) *
I'm seeing stuff on twitter from some boxing site accounts right now that says he and Alvarado will be fighting Oct 8th

Welp, that was a short lived title holder. If they fight in Macau there is no way Alvarado gets a fair shake. Plus his style is tailored made for Pac. Alvarado isn't fast and yes he adjusted to Brandon Rios but Pac is faster than Rios. Now the height might play apart but I doubt it. If Alvarado jabs his he may have a shot. This fight is going to be a slug fest. I guess this is the new definition of boxing.
emd01
JMM is about to retire. Win, lose or draw he's going to retire after his next fight. He's 40 and he was talking about retiring after tranquilizing Manny last time. This is all just a stall tactic by Marquez to get more money....his last big payday. We're definitely going to see Pac/JMM 5 next. Theres no other fight that could generate the money that it will and, imo, Manny was putting it on JMMs ass before his lil nap so its a very winnable fight for him.

Avenge that loss, make as much money as possible, get his nutty fans going again...that 5th fight is going down next.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 09:34 PM) *
I'm seeing stuff on twitter from some boxing site accounts right now that says he and Alvarado will be fighting Oct 8th

Somebody put Rios on suicide watch please! I know he's probably kicking himself in the ass, if this rumor is true.

"Yo, where my promoter? Where my rematch? Yall want threeee? Where my promoter? Where my 3???" laugh.gif

That dude was a real tool that night.

I still say that Pac/JMM 5 takes place on Mexican Independence Weekend. What better date to have it? Bob is doing his usual trick...act like he doesn't care about the fight anymore, throw other guys' names in there as smokescreen to build them, and BOOM, the fight that everybody's tired of seeing, happens again.

Bob took a shot in the dark by allowing the 3rd fight to end in that fashion, then taking the chance of making a 4th fight that nobody probably cared about. Gladly the 4th ended the way it, now he has something to work with. No way he lets Alvarado or Rios fight ANYBODY else at this point, just to lose and mess up a rubber match.

Whatever little life they have left in them, they need to go ahead and beat it out of each other in an immediate rubber match, rather than a do-gooder opportunist whacking them, and leaving Bob with yet another fighter to promote from scratch.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 06:11 AM) *
Welp, that was a short lived title holder. If they fight in Macau there is no way Alvarado gets a fair shake. Plus his style is tailored made for Pac. Alvarado isn't fast and yes he adjusted to Brandon Rios but Pac is faster than Rios. Now the height might play apart but I doubt it. If Alvarado jabs his he may have a shot. This fight is going to be a slug fest. I guess this is the new definition of boxing.


If this is true then yeah, I see an L on the record of Alvarado but this is the sport of boxing so anything can happen
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 08:19 AM) *
Somebody put Rios on suicide watch please! I know he's probably kicking himself in the ass, if this rumor is true.

"Yo, where my promoter? Where my rematch? Yall want threeee? Where my promoter? Where my 3???" laugh.gif

That dude was a real tool that night.

I still say that Pac/JMM 5 takes place on Mexican Independence Weekend. What better date to have it? Bob is doing his usual trick...act like he doesn't care about the fight anymore, throw other guys' names in there as smokescreen to build them, and BOOM, the fight that everybody's tired of seeing, happens again.

Bob took a shot in the dark by allowing the 3rd fight to end in that fashion, then taking the chance of making a 4th fight that nobody probably cared about. Gladly the 4th ended the way it, now he has something to work with. No way he lets Alvarado or Rios fight ANYBODY else at this point, just to lose and mess up a rubber match.

Whatever little life they have left in them, they need to go ahead and beat it out of each other in an immediate rubber match, rather than a do-gooder opportunist whacking them, and leaving Bob with yet another fighter to promote from scratch.


I'm dying right now, he was struggling to get that out lol..yall want to see the threeee??

I agree, I think Alvarado is possibly being used as bait to get JMM to jump at a deal. He's going to make more money then he's probably ever made in a 5th fight and he keeps alluding to the fact that he wants to retire. He can just do it one more time and retire

As for Rios and Alvarado, that's a rematch that needs to happen immediately, neither one has that much time left in the sport the way they fight IMO
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 04:43 PM) *
I'm dying right now, he was struggling to get that out lol..yall want to see the threeee??

I agree, I think Alvarado is possibly being used as bait to get JMM to jump at a deal. He's going to make more money then he's probably ever made in a 5th fight and he keeps alluding to the fact that he wants to retire. He can just do it one more time and retire

As for Rios and Alvarado, that's a rematch that needs to happen immediately, neither one has that much time left in the sport the way they fight IMO

Right! Dude's voice went from Tenor to Soprano! Yall want to the see the threeee??? Huh?

Juan needs to understand that Pac is the only one who will bring him his highest payday, unless Floyd just gets wild and decides to fight him by the end of the year...if he beats Guerrero.

I agree, Rios and Alvarado dont have too much time left, if they continue at that pace.

KOpower
He will fight either JMM or Bradley. My guess is JMM. If JMM retires, Pac fights Bradley. There is no chance Bradley fights JMM when he will make far more against Pac.
daprofessor
QUOTE (KOpower @ Apr 17 2013, 08:48 PM) *
He will fight either JMM or Bradley. My guess is JMM. If JMM retires, Pac fights Bradley. There is no chance Bradley fights JMM when he will make far more against Pac.


jmm has already stated he wants bradley or alvarado and has no interest in beating pac again.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 04:13 PM) *
Right! Dude's voice went from Tenor to Soprano! Yall want to the see the threeee??? Huh?

Juan needs to understand that Pac is the only one who will bring him his highest payday, unless Floyd just gets wild and decides to fight him by the end of the year...if he beats Guerrero.

I agree, Rios and Alvarado dont have too much time left, if they continue at that pace.


Do you think there would be anyway that Arum let's Bradley fight Mayweather?
KOpower
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2013, 08:58 PM) *
jmm has already stated he wants bradley or alvarado and has no interest in beating pac again.



I guess we will have to see. I think Pac is fighting JMM next but it wouldn't surprise me if it is Bradley. Maybe they give him a fight like Alvarado before that.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 07:13 PM) *
Right! Dude's voice went from Tenor to Soprano! Yall want to the see the threeee??? Huh?

Juan needs to understand that Pac is the only one who will bring him his highest payday, unless Floyd just gets wild and decides to fight him by the end of the year...if he beats Guerrero.

I agree, Rios and Alvarado dont have too much time left, if they continue at that pace.


Rios and Alvarado are likeable boxers but that's what makes their situation all the more worse. You want to see them compete but not at the risk of permanently damaging themselves. What's worse to me is that Alvarado doesn't have to fight that way he just easily gets lured into those type of fights

Yeah, Marquez need to stop bullshittin and take the 5. Right now he acting like Martin Payne... "I'm not paying the 5" laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 09:41 PM) *
Do you think there would be anyway that Arum let's Bradley fight Mayweather?


Hell he should, he don't like the guy no way. Just let GB buy his contract out or rent him out. He don't fuck with Bradley like that and it's obvious...a Mayweather-Bradley fight is something that I badly want to happen but Arum don't give a damn about me or the fans
mgrover
if he's fighting abroad then this fight won't be a PPV will it?
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