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daprofessor
he's had some great black fighters over the years....but ali was a finished product that didn't need much marketing. same can be said for leonard. he guided floyd early in his career but imo did not promote floyd as well as he could have or half as much as he promoted dlh or pacquiao. is he just not in touch? or does he just not care? rigondeaux has displayed exceptional skill like we haven't seen in quite some time. this guy has some amazing accomplishments on his resume.

world unified champion in just 10 pro fights
2 time gold medalist
2 time pan am gold medalist
2 time world cup champion

had almost 400 fights as an amateur with only 12 losses and hasn't been defeated in 10yrs.

he just beat the fighter of the year '12 very convincingly and he's going to be a hard sell??? is arum serious? the opposition is out there for rigondeaux to stake his claim at greatness. we have an opportunity to see another truly great fighter accomplish great things.

fights i'd like to see that are very doable.

mares
moreno
agbeko
nishioka
darchinyan
wv2

if he should move up...
gary russell
mickey garcia

those are just off the top of my head. in my mind....we just saw a megafight. the two very best in the division and rigondeaux proved he was a level above the fighter of the year. so now he has to suffer because arum is either incompetent or racist? bullshit!!! push this guy!!! don't punish him for his greatness. give the fans what they deserve and stop with the bullshit agendas.

Jovi
Rigondeaux/Moreno was a fight i was thinking of last night that i think would be awesome. Honestly i don't want to see him against any of Nonito's leftovers, I haven't heard from them after they lost to Nonito. Unless it was all 4 of the opponents he had last year in one night, haha like Rigondeaux said he could do before. No doubt that he can't either.

..Anyways, i dont wanna name call but Racist is a good word to describe Arum. All the fighters that he has been hyping up lately have been light skinned. To his credit its not like he has any good White fighters he can hype up. but i once heard a quote from the Elite group that they would rather die than call a Negro their brother. That's cold, but its all i think of.

Tried to take away Rigondeaux's shine after the win. He did the same thing to Bradley too, his win wasn't as clear but if your own Promoter was against your win that's just a kick in the nuts. Lol has anyone heard anything from Clottey after the Pacquiao fight?

I hope new fighters don't sign to top Rank, they should just look at the most famous fighters in Top rank as an example of how they DON'T want their career to be. compare that to the fighters who left.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 03:24 PM) *
Rigondeaux/Moreno was a fight i was thinking of last night that i think would be awesome. Honestly i don't want to see him against any of Nonito's leftovers, I haven't heard from them after they lost to Nonito. Unless it was all 4 of the opponents he had last year in one night, haha like Rigondeaux said he could do before. No doubt that he can't either.

..Anyways, i dont wanna name call but Racist is a good word to describe Arum. All the fighters that he has been hyping up lately have been light skinned. To his credit its not like he has any good White fighters he can hype up. but i once heard a quote from the Elite group that they would rather die than call a Negro their brother. That's cold, but its all i think of.

Tried to take away Rigondeaux's shine after the win. He did the same thing to Bradley too, his win wasn't as clear but if your own Promoter was against your win that's just a kick in the nuts. Lol has anyone heard anything from Clottey after the Pacquiao fight?

I hope new fighters don't sign to top Rank, they should just look at the most famous fighters in Top rank as an example of how they DON'T want their career to be. compare that to the fighters who left.


i hate to call him a racist...but the pattern is there. he had the peterson brothers, anthony 'the messenger' thompson, zahir raheem, clottey...bradley is still going...but it seems evident.

as for rigondeaux facing all 4 of last years opponents...i hear u. i think wv2 still has something. nishioka may be a waste...but darchinyan just beat that undefeated p.r. kid.
The Original MrFactor
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.
daprofessor
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM) *
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.


i think it's based on the color black...but i'll agree to disagree.

rigondeaux has the power to end a fight with either hand. there are plenty of come forward fighters out there to match him against and he will shine. arum made it a point to match pacquiao up with mexican after mexican because their styles were perfect for pacquiao. do u think he will do the same for rigondeaux? i don't. i gave the list of available opposition. it's really not hard for any of those fights to be made. the question is...will bob make them? or will he punish rigondeaux for beating his next filipino star?
mgrover
I don't get Arum, isn't he rich enough yet?
Cshel86
Bob's an old senile douche, and has no problem showing it.

Does he have enough somewhat golden goose to match Rigondeaux up against? If so, then he'd better step carefully, or end up ruining it like he Juanma/Gamboa. Somebody asked a while, why in the hell hasn't Bob had all of Rigondeaux's fights in FL?

Aside from the PPVs that he was on, his fights should've been in FL to reach out to the Cuban fan base, if there is a Cuban boxing fan base in FL. I guess it's easier said than done, and apparently Bob knows something that we don't about marketing Rigo in FL. Maybe taxes has a lot to do with it.

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daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM) *
Bob's an old senile douche, and has no problem showing it.

Does he have enough somewhat golden goose to match Rigondeaux up against? If so, then he'd better step carefully, or end up ruining it like he Juanma/Gamboa. Somebody asked a while, why in the hell hasn't Bob had all of Rigondeaux's fights in FL?

Aside from the PPVs that he was on, his fights should've been in FL to reach out to the Cuban fan base, if there is a Cuban boxing fan base in FL. I guess it's easier said than done, and apparently Bob knows something that we don't about marketing Rigo in FL. Maybe taxes has a lot to do with it.

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that would be a step in the right direction. the other step is to keep him out east because they seem to appreciate skillful boxing moreso than out west. stack the undercards right...put in front of opposition that will bring out the best in him...and he'll shine. this guys time is limited. i think he's the rare fighter that shines with real challenges ala floyd. there's no reason this guy shouldn't be headlining his own shows from here on out.

the win against donaire was HUGE!!! he didn't just narrowly beat him, he schooled donaire who is supposed to be a p4p fighter. that's not exactly on the level with what marquez did to pac...but it's up there.
BrutUalBK
I call it as I see it; if the wheel is round then it is what it is and Bob Arum has done an exceptional job of not promoting his black fighters in the same manner in which he celebrates his mexican and filipino fighters.

Bob Arum is a the biggest racist Jewish person in boxing!!
Jack 1000
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM) *
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.


Arum has been showing positive racial bias to the Mexican, Hispanic, and Latin American and Latino fighter populations for years. He plays off of that because it makes money for him. Yes, I think Bob has some issues with racism toward African-American fighters. Even those that make money. HUGE Money. Bob Arum despises Floyd Mayweather and his management team with passionate hatred. This began years ago when Floyd was fighting on regular HBO and Floyd compared the money he was making from Arum to a slave wages contract. There are other fighters who have strong Mexican, Latin American, Latino base who have also severed ties with Arum. Delahoya for example.

Now Bob is saying things like, "Fans aren't stupid they want to see action, not some star fight tomato cans once every six months, but two-sided fights." Maybe so. However, Arum never said anything like that when he would for years promote PPV's with his stars against mediocre competition. It really boils down to a distrust from Arum no matter what. In his own words, "Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth."

Does Arum really create a racial issue with African-American versus Mexican fighters? Or is he negatively prejudiced to the style of the pure boxer, regardless of race, if he feels that said fighter does not make money for him. Examples would be Tim Bradley and now Rigondeax. Bob, maybe even subconsciously has been very disrespectful to their accomplishments, UNTIL Tim had that war with Ruslan. It stands to reason now, is Ringo going to be forced to have a war to gain Bob's respect? And if he doesn't have a war, will Bob throw him under the bus because he's a "boring boxer?"

Jack
mgrover
Rigos going to unfortunately pay the price for his win. Arums already on damage control stating that Donaire the dude who lost will most likely fight Salido next and has been going on about Donaire having weight issues etc etc. I hate to say it but if Rigo came into the pro game just a bit earlier.
Dolimite
I think he is racist and I hate to pull that card. But looks how he shits on certain fighters. I do not think Arum likes boxers that actually have the intelligence to think for themselves. He just like to be in control and whoever he can not control he tries to destroy or discredit. He hates Floyd because he out thought him, he hates ODH because he jumped shipped and he hates any fighter that shows a backbone which is why he is having issues getting the Pac and Marquez fight done. Some of these fighters are so desperate that they would do anything just to land a fight and get a little money so they sign an unfair contract. He uses the athletes and does what he wants with them. But the ones who see him for the snake he is he demonizes or punish. My opinion.
bnoles4life
Delahoya, Haymon or whom the eff ever, needs to be looking at that July 15th date (if I'm not mistaken, Rigo's contract termination date) and make Rigo an offer he can't refuse (no, not that kinda of offer....)

Long story short, I'm confident Arum, at a minimum, is a bigot.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 15 2013, 05:34 PM) *
Rigos going to unfortunately pay the price for his win. Arums already on damage control stating that Donaire the dude who lost will most likely fight Salido next and has been going on about Donaire having weight issues etc etc. I hate to say it but if Rigo came into the pro game just a bit earlier.


rigondeaux destroys a guy like salido. make that fight instead. or even rigondeaux vs garcia. i think he beats them both. not sure if his team is ready to move him up though.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 15 2013, 05:42 PM) *
I think he is racist and I hate to pull that card. But looks how he shits on certain fighters. I do not think Arum likes boxers that actually have the intelligence to think for themselves. He just like to be in control and whoever he can not control he tries to destroy or discredit. He hates Floyd because he out thought him, he hates ODH because he jumped shipped and he hates any fighter that shows a backbone which is why he is having issues getting the Pac and Marquez fight done. Some of these fighters are so desperate that they would do anything just to land a fight and get a little money so they sign an unfair contract. He uses the athletes and does what he wants with them. But the ones who see him for the snake he is he demonizes or punish. My opinion.


your opinion isn't far off.
Jovi
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Apr 15 2013, 04:37 PM) *
Arum probably is a racist, but I think his failure to promote black fighters is based on the color green. There is a huge market for Latino's, Pinnoys and the great White hope. The NFL and NBA have black sports demographics on lockdown. Its that simple.

I think some of the things he said after the fight about Rigondeaux were disgusting. Thats like breach of contract type stuff. Arum was honest, but he should have lied his ass off. The promoter is also in the business of marketing the guy and selling fights. He did Rigo no favors after the fight.


The market does explain it. I wanted to say racist but more that he just hated Blacks because he still be riding on Latinos and Asians. I would say Pinnoys but he has taken a liking to Zou Shiming but it all has to do with that $$$.

NBA and NFL does have the demographic on lockdown, i think it has to do with how Commercial they are compared to Boxing. The rising Black stars is lacking compared to Basketball and Football and Boxing isn't on TV as much. On ESPN the only thing i hear on there is Floyd Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Its sad how much ESPN slacks on Boxing. And you dont really see boxers balling out like all these other sports stars. You have Floyd being Flashy actually showing you can get money in boxing (If he had Endorsements he would be killing it). Them showing Boxers with small houses in regular neighborhood isnt really motivating anyone to take the beating in the ring if they aint getting much money to ball out .

The least he could have said about Rigo was "He is the best at 122", just said he is skilled but not entertaining. What an idiot, he should have blamed the entertainment on Nonito being scared to throw punches because he either missed or got hit with that Left hand. But he the hate seems alittle apparent, this dude is a 2 time gold Medalist and dominated the champion at 122 and is now the New champ and the Best at 122 and is called not entertaining. He shouldn't even have commented on that. Disrespectful.

I either haven't read around enough but anyone who saw the fight just said that Rigo did his thing and Nonito didn't know what he was doing. Nonito even said he got schooled. I was even surprised when my Cousin was saying how those judge's cards were too BS, He's a Nonito fan and he's Filipino.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) *
The market does explain it. I wanted to say racist but more that he just hated Blacks because he still be riding on Latinos and Asians. I would say Pinnoys but he has taken a liking to Zou Shiming but it all has to do with that $$$.

NBA and NFL does have the demographic on lockdown, i think it has to do with how Commercial they are compared to Boxing. The rising Black stars is lacking compared to Basketball and Football and Boxing isn't on TV as much. On ESPN the only thing i hear on there is Floyd Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Its sad how much ESPN slacks on Boxing. And you dont really see boxers balling out like all these other sports stars. You have Floyd being Flashy actually showing you can get money in boxing (If he had Endorsements he would be killing it). Them showing Boxers with small houses in regular neighborhood isnt really motivating anyone to take the beating in the ring if they aint getting much money to ball out .

The least he could have said about Rigo was "He is the best at 122", just said he is skilled but not entertaining. What an idiot, he should have blamed the entertainment on Nonito being scared to throw punches because he either missed or got hit with that Left hand. But he the hate seems alittle apparent, this dude is a 2 time gold Medalist and dominated the champion at 122 and is now the New champ and the Best at 122 and is called not entertaining. He shouldn't even have commented on that. Disrespectful.

I either haven't read around enough but anyone who saw the fight just said that Rigo did his thing and Nonito didn't know what he was doing. Nonito even said he got schooled. I was even surprised when my Cousin was saying how those judge's cards were too BS, He's a Nonito fan and he's Filipino.


exactly!
Cshel86
I'm curious as to how Bob would promote Broner.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 15 2013, 09:43 PM) *
I'm curious as to how Bob would promote Broner.


i was shocked that he had crawford on the undercard of rios/alvarado. but then again...he was a last minute replacement. broner would have been a last minute option as well i'm sure.
mgrover
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 12:52 AM) *
rigondeaux destroys a guy like salido. make that fight instead. or even rigondeaux vs garcia. i think he beats them both. not sure if his team is ready to move him up though.


Oh I ain't saying he does its just curious how he already has someone set up for the loser of the fight and is more or less already promoting it while nothing for Rigo. During the interview Rigos trainer kept whispering something in his ear I wonder what it was
MaxPayne
He's simply a reluctant promoter when it comes to Black fighters, because that demographic is heavily in favor of Floyd Mayweather, Adrien Broner and Andre Ward.

Arum would have to compete with those guys and simply doesn't see it as making much business sense.

He's a piece of shit though. A loathsome, vile, disgusting waste of human space.
neophyte7
INTERESTING HOW ARUM IS THE "WHITE" DON KING --- I did not realize how much people cannot stand this guy. He is as hated as KING was relative to his exploitation and shrewd dealings
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 15 2013, 10:03 PM) *
i was shocked that he had crawford on the undercard of rios/alvarado. but then again...he was a last minute replacement. broner would have been a last minute option as well i'm sure.

Me too, but you're right, he was a last minute replacement. If Arum had Broner, he wouldn't have a problem promoting him, because he pretty much promotes himself.

Think about it, Broner is the "Mayweather of a few years ago", super flashy with a big mouth. We'd have to hear Arum brag about how Broner is a better product than Mayweather ever was, under his banner. He still seems butthurt about Oscar and Floyd leaving him, so I wouldn't rule it out.
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:45 AM) *
Me too, but you're right, he was a last minute replacement. If Arum had Broner, he wouldn't have a problem promoting him, because he pretty much promotes himself.

Think about it, Broner is the "Mayweather of a few years ago", super flashy with a big mouth. We'd have to hear Arum brag about how Broner is a better product than Mayweather ever was, under his banner. He still seems butthurt about Oscar and Floyd leaving him, so I wouldn't rule it out.



He'd probably match Mayweather Jr Jr up with Provodnikov for 8mil so that we can watch Mayweather Jr Jr run like hell. No matter, his faithful fans will pull out their torches and pitchforks while defending Mayweather Jr Jr fighting the true champion Sebastian Lujan.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:45 AM) *
Me too, but you're right, he was a last minute replacement. If Arum had Broner, he wouldn't have a problem promoting him, because he pretty much promotes himself.

Think about it, Broner is the "Mayweather of a few years ago", super flashy with a big mouth. We'd have to hear Arum brag about how Broner is a better product than Mayweather ever was, under his banner. He still seems butthurt about Oscar and Floyd leaving him, so I wouldn't rule it out.


broner would be making far less money and wouldn't be on televised bouts if he fought under arum. especially after the ponce de leon fight. laugh.gif
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 11:33 AM) *
broner would be making far less money and wouldn't be on televised bouts if he fought under arum. especially after the ponce de leon fight. laugh.gif

Arum would have Broner wear Jerhl Curl and walk the aisle with a boom box while flashing his EBT card, you know to get the black fan base.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 16 2013, 06:22 PM) *
Arum would have Broner wear Jerhl Curl and walk the aisle with a boom box while flashing his EBT card, you know to get the black fan base.


that's just wrong.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 02:33 PM) *
broner would be making far less money and wouldn't be on televised bouts if he fought under arum. especially after the ponce de leon fight. laugh.gif

Who doesn't make "far less" money while under the TR banner??? laugh.gif

QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 16 2013, 06:22 PM) *
Arum would have Broner wear Jerhl Curl and walk the aisle with a boom box while flashing his EBT card, you know to get the black fan base.

Hell, Broner's pretty close to setting us black people back about another 30 years anyway, so what you described will probably just make him seem cool. But remember, he liiiive though!
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 07:33 PM) *
Who doesn't make "far less" money while under the TR banner??? laugh.gif


Hell, Broner's pretty close to setting us black people back about another 30 years anyway, so what you described will probably just make him seem cool. But remember, he liiiive though!


if he don't close that damn mouth! evertime he interviews his mouth is wide open like he's waiting to catch flies...or eat coochie or something. laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 16 2013, 06:33 PM) *
Who doesn't make "far less" money while under the TR banner??? laugh.gif


Hell, Broner's pretty close to setting us black people back about another 30 years anyway, so what you described will probably just make him seem cool. But remember, he liiiive though!


He aint that bad, now these reality shows on the other hand. Man they really making us look ridiculous. Like all we do is rap on the corner and go to events and fight laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 06:58 PM) *
if he don't close that damn mouth! evertime he interviews his mouth is wide open like he's waiting to catch flies...or eat coochie or something. laugh.gif


Could be worse, he could be an over rated bible thumpin mexican boxer who packs a piece and is too stupid to leave it at home laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 09:33 PM) *
Could be worse, he could be an over rated bible thumpin mexican boxer who packs a piece and is too stupid to leave it at home laugh.gif


worse? they're neck and neck in that race. laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 09:24 PM) *
worse? they're neck and neck in that race. laugh.gif


Yeah, I can agree with that lol
mrchitown
And didn't Arum say the same thing after a Floyd fight, IDK if it was after the first Castillo fight or another fight but I do remember him saying something along those lines similar to what he's saying about Rigo
VJones
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 15 2013, 02:58 PM) *
he's had some great black fighters over the years....but ali was a finished product that didn't need much marketing. same can be said for leonard. he guided floyd early in his career but imo did not promote floyd as well as he could have or half as much as he promoted dlh or pacquiao. is he just not in touch? or does he just not care? rigondeaux has displayed exceptional skill like we haven't seen in quite some time. this guy has some amazing accomplishments on his resume.

world unified champion in just 10 pro fights
2 time gold medalist
2 time pan am gold medalist
2 time world cup champion

had almost 400 fights as an amateur with only 12 losses and hasn't been defeated in 10yrs.

he just beat the fighter of the year '12 very convincingly and he's going to be a hard sell??? is arum serious? the opposition is out there for rigondeaux to stake his claim at greatness. we have an opportunity to see another truly great fighter accomplish great things.

fights i'd like to see that are very doable.

mares
moreno
agbeko
nishioka
darchinyan
wv2

if he should move up...
gary russell
mickey garcia

those are just off the top of my head. in my mind....we just saw a megafight. the two very best in the division and rigondeaux proved he was a level above the fighter of the year. so now he has to suffer because arum is either incompetent or racist? bullshit!!! push this guy!!! don't punish him for his greatness. give the fans what they deserve and stop with the bullshit agendas.


Bob Arum is a study in audacity. They should have classes at University on this guy: "The Science of Being A Pr*ck". He is certainly a racist. His speech is that of a racist. Rigo is a "SOB", while Donaire is the "Kid". His favorite "endearment" for his (or anybody else's black fighter) is "SOB".

QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 15 2013, 04:11 PM) *
I don't get Arum, isn't he rich enough yet?


This.

QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 15 2013, 06:17 PM) *
Delahoya, Haymon or whom the eff ever, needs to be looking at that July 15th date (if I'm not mistaken, Rigo's contract termination date) and make Rigo an offer he can't refuse (no, not that kinda of offer....)

Long story short, I'm confident Arum, at a minimum, is a bigot.


And this. And the latter (the bigot part).
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 05:32 PM) *
He aint that bad, now these reality shows on the other hand. Man they really making us look ridiculous. Like all we do is rap on the corner and go to events and fight laugh.gif

I boycott those shows. I call those shows modern day Step and Fettish, but the difference was those guys were acting these hoochies and coons who are on these reality show actually think their behavior is somehow appropriate. They need to realize that they are free but shit some slaves loved the plantation.
emd01
Arum is probably both but mostly it just drives him insane when he's not controlling the money lol.
sduck
I don't necessarily think Arum is racist. It's just his addition to marketing. You seen too many black fighters at the top, so he's trying something different with fighters like Pacquiao.

I think someone here mentioned De La Hoya and Mayweather, the difference between them is that De La Hoya was a more popular fighter in the amateurs and won a gold, while Floyd was less popular and won a bronze, so I don't see how race plays a factor there. Arum also didn't want to feed Mayweather to De La Hoya (I think for $20 million Floyd asked?) because Oscar and Arum had a following out (remember?) and Arum didn't want to do that kind of money with Oscar anymore.

I also recall Arum going on about how Mayweather was the next Ali, and promoting him as such, but Mayweather eventually bounced because Arum was trying to sell him short, like what he did to Oscar and now is doing to Pacquiao.
Cshel86
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 16 2013, 07:58 PM) *
if he don't close that damn mouth! evertime he interviews his mouth is wide open like he's waiting to catch flies...or eat coochie or something. laugh.gif

Ha! That grill makes him appear to be even more of a retard than we actually give him credit for being. But he liiiiive though. laugh.gif

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 09:32 PM) *
He aint that bad, now these reality shows on the other hand. Man they really making us look ridiculous. Like all we do is rap on the corner and go to events and fight laugh.gif

Right. Half of those hoes are on the show wearing expensive flashy clothes, and driving nice cars...all because some sucker wifed them up or knocked them up. Most black chicks think it's cute to mimic that shit, only because they love drama. no2.gif

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 16 2013, 09:33 PM) *
Could be worse, he could be an over rated bible thumpin mexican boxer who packs a piece and is too stupid to leave it at home laugh.gif

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daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 12:23 AM) *
And didn't Arum say the same thing after a Floyd fight, IDK if it was after the first Castillo fight or another fight but I do remember him saying something along those lines similar to what he's saying about Rigo


probably. it wouldn't surprise me if he did.
daprofessor
QUOTE (VJones @ Apr 17 2013, 01:39 AM) *
Bob Arum is a study in audacity. They should have classes at University on this guy: "The Science of Being A Pr*ck". He is certainly a racist. His speech is that of a racist. Rigo is a "SOB", while Donaire is the "Kid". His favorite "endearment" for his (or anybody else's black fighter) is "SOB".



This.



And this. And the latter (the bigot part).


great observation.
daprofessor
QUOTE (sduck @ Apr 17 2013, 09:27 AM) *
I don't necessarily think Arum is racist. It's just his addition to marketing. You seen too many black fighters at the top, so he's trying something different with fighters like Pacquiao.

I think someone here mentioned De La Hoya and Mayweather, the difference between them is that De La Hoya was a more popular fighter in the amateurs and won a gold, while Floyd was less popular and won a bronze, so I don't see how race plays a factor there. Arum also didn't want to feed Mayweather to De La Hoya (I think for $20 million Floyd asked?) because Oscar and Arum had a following out (remember?) and Arum didn't want to do that kind of money with Oscar anymore.

I also recall Arum going on about how Mayweather was the next Ali, and promoting him as such, but Mayweather eventually bounced because Arum was trying to sell him short, like what he did to Oscar and now is doing to Pacquiao.


the ground work for oscar had already been laid in the olympics. he won the gold for his mom who died of cancer. amazing story. all arum had to do after that was make sure he matched him appropriately. oscar's skill made that somewhat easy. floyd..on the other hand need more work and promotion...but imo had more skill than oscar so the matchmaking was even easier. arum likes to think of himself as an oldschool promoter who 'builds them up properly.' i've yet to see him do that with a black fighter.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 06:18 AM) *
I boycott those shows. I call those shows modern day Step and Fettish, but the difference was those guys were acting these hoochies and coons who are on these reality show actually think their behavior is somehow appropriate. They need to realize that they are free but shit some slaves loved the plantation.


So true, making the race and our culture look foolish for a damn check
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 08:36 AM) *
Right. Half of those hoes are on the show wearing expensive flashy clothes, and driving nice cars...all because some sucker wifed them up or knocked them up. Most black chicks think it's cute to mimic that shit, only because they love drama. no2.gif


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#Dead


That's the problem today, any man that finds a woman that's humble and not into all that stuff is someone I consider lucky. Instead of working hard, some of these chicks looking for a quick come up
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 17 2013, 01:53 PM) *
the ground work for oscar had already been laid in the olympics. he won the gold for his mom who died of cancer. amazing story. all arum had to do after that was make sure he matched him appropriately. oscar's skill made that somewhat easy. floyd..on the other hand need more work and promotion...but imo had more skill than oscar so the matchmaking was even easier. arum likes to think of himself as an oldschool promoter who 'builds them up properly.' i've yet to see him do that with a black fighter.


All truth in this statement...I hope he does something good with that kid Crawford, I see good things in his future
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Jovi @ Apr 15 2013, 07:15 PM) *
The market does explain it. I wanted to say racist but more that he just hated Blacks because he still be riding on Latinos and Asians. I would say Pinnoys but he has taken a liking to Zou Shiming but it all has to do with that $$$.

NBA and NFL does have the demographic on lockdown, i think it has to do with how Commercial they are compared to Boxing. The rising Black stars is lacking compared to Basketball and Football and Boxing isn't on TV as much. On ESPN the only thing i hear on there is Floyd Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Its sad how much ESPN slacks on Boxing. And you dont really see boxers balling out like all these other sports stars. You have Floyd being Flashy actually showing you can get money in boxing (If he had Endorsements he would be killing it). Them showing Boxers with small houses in regular neighborhood isnt really motivating anyone to take the beating in the ring if they aint getting much money to ball out .

The least he could have said about Rigo was "He is the best at 122", just said he is skilled but not entertaining. What an idiot, he should have blamed the entertainment on Nonito being scared to throw punches because he either missed or got hit with that Left hand. But he the hate seems alittle apparent, this dude is a 2 time gold Medalist and dominated the champion at 122 and is now the New champ and the Best at 122 and is called not entertaining. He shouldn't even have commented on that. Disrespectful.

I either haven't read around enough but anyone who saw the fight just said that Rigo did his thing and Nonito didn't know what he was doing. Nonito even said he got schooled. I was even surprised when my Cousin was saying how those judge's cards were too BS, He's a Nonito fan and he's Filipino.


word first round draft picks be getting paid millions of dollars before they even play a game.

boxers don't get paid near that much when they are prospects.

thats why basketball and football are the biggest sports in the black community. in baseball you have to go through the minor legaue.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 04:34 PM) *
That's the problem today, any man that finds a woman that's humble and not into all that stuff is someone I consider lucky. Instead of working hard, some of these chicks looking for a quick come up

I call 'em "flat-backers"! laugh.gif
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 17 2013, 12:35 PM) *
All truth in this statement...I hope he does something good with that kid Crawford, I see good things in his future

If his last name was Cruz he would be fighting for a major title.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 17 2013, 07:16 PM) *
I call 'em "flat-backers"! laugh.gif


I'm telling you know...I'm stealing that. I'm going to the club asking where's the flat backers at laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 17 2013, 09:44 PM) *
If his last name was Cruz he would be fighting for a major title.


I sadly have to agree with that. I do see alot of people including Arum saying that boxing is a mexican sport now and to an extent it's somewhat true but not to toot the horn of my own race, but the blacks are the best fighters in the sport
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