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Ruben Guerrero: Mayweather Getting Beat Up in Sparring
Posted by: Rick Reeno on 4/18/2013 .




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By Rick Reeno

Ruben Guerrero, the outspoken father/trainer of Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero (31-1-1, 18KOs), tells BoxingScene.com that he heard rumblings that Floyd Mayweather Jr. (43-0, 26Kos) is getting worked over by his sparring partners. Guerrero challenges Mayweather on May 4th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Showtime Pay-Per-View will televise.

Both Mayweather and Guerrero are holding their training camps in Las Vegas. Ruben believes his information is valid, because on Wednesday at a media workout at the Mayweather Boxing Club - it was pretty clear that Mayweather was sporting a bruise under his right eye.

"I seen that black eye on him. If he thinks he's getting beat up in sparring wait until May 4. He's gonna get a real beatdown [that day]. He better be ready that's all I'm saying because Robert wants this. He's ready and he's a warrior with Mexican blood. We fight till the death. Robert wants to put a beating on this guy and its gonna take every Mayweather in that ring to beat my son. And if the father wants a old school beating I have one for him too. Viva Mexico! Viva California! Viva Texas! We want this! Let's go," Ruben said.

Ruben says he is not intimidated by going against the training duo of Floyd Mayweather Sr. and his brother Roger Mayweather.

"If you got two trainers you got nothing. Floyd Sr. is a puppet, all he does is talk. Roger is the real trainer who does mitts and everything. The other guy is a cheerleader man. What type of head trainer doesn't do mitts with his fighter? Lil Floyd Jr. just feels bad cause he treated his father like sh*t on TV. If I were Roger I wouldn't allow these fools to do that. He trained Floyd Jr. his whole career and the other guy is here for the paycheck," Ruben said.

flazi
the harder the training the easier the fight.
VJones
Yeah...not so much. Lack of credibility with "the source."

Now if Guerrero had said this weeks or days before media day and the obvious bruise (and especially if his son wasn't fighting the fighter in question)...his "I heard..." would be a slight more credible. But to come out after you see a bruise on a fighter....that's just spin.

Not the first time Floyd's sported a bruise during training.

Wonder why Reuben Guerreo is not more focused on his own fighter...and those 12 pounds he still needs to lose. Smh.
mgrover
It could mean a whole range of things if it was true. But that's a big if. Maybe it would explain how come they'd didn't film any sparring this time around? But if it was true, it really needs to be put into context, you know what Floyds like, does crazy rounds for crazy amount of time with fresh opposition when he himself is tired as. I mean remember when Floyd fractured a rib before the Marquez fight. Nothing new.

12lb in 30 days is nothing, any idea what Floyds was at?
daprofessor
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 18 2013, 06:45 PM) *
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Ruben Guerrero: Mayweather Getting Beat Up in Sparring
Posted by: Rick Reeno on 4/18/2013 .




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By Rick Reeno

Ruben Guerrero, the outspoken father/trainer of Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero (31-1-1, 18KOs), tells BoxingScene.com that he heard rumblings that Floyd Mayweather Jr. (43-0, 26Kos) is getting worked over by his sparring partners. Guerrero challenges Mayweather on May 4th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Showtime Pay-Per-View will televise.

Both Mayweather and Guerrero are holding their training camps in Las Vegas. Ruben believes his information is valid, because on Wednesday at a media workout at the Mayweather Boxing Club - it was pretty clear that Mayweather was sporting a bruise under his right eye.

"I seen that black eye on him. If he thinks he's getting beat up in sparring wait until May 4. He's gonna get a real beatdown [that day]. He better be ready that's all I'm saying because Robert wants this. He's ready and he's a warrior with Mexican blood. We fight till the death. Robert wants to put a beating on this guy and its gonna take every Mayweather in that ring to beat my son. And if the father wants a old school beating I have one for him too. Viva Mexico! Viva California! Viva Texas! We want this! Let's go," Ruben said.

Ruben says he is not intimidated by going against the training duo of Floyd Mayweather Sr. and his brother Roger Mayweather.

"If you got two trainers you got nothing. Floyd Sr. is a puppet, all he does is talk. Roger is the real trainer who does mitts and everything. The other guy is a cheerleader man. What type of head trainer doesn't do mitts with his fighter? Lil Floyd Jr. just feels bad cause he treated his father like sh*t on TV. If I were Roger I wouldn't allow these fools to do that. He trained Floyd Jr. his whole career and the other guy is here for the paycheck," Ruben said.


i will give ruben this....this is the most shit i've ever seen anyone talk to floyd and his camp ever. laugh.gif either he's crazy....or he's a genius. we'll find out come may 4th.
daprofessor
floyd has 3 sparring partners....

errol spence, sechew powell and jesus gonzalez. word is that gonzalez is giving him the best work.

there's a fine line between training someone to a peak...and over doing it. with more than one cook in the kitchen...this may be an issue. from an interview i saw earlier today from roger...he says he's the one steering the ship. i know floyd wants the whole family involved...i hope it's a good thing. jeff is down in panama. we'll see what happens come fight night.

on guerrero's side...i've seen guerrero and his pops work. honestly..i've always got the feeling that guerrero trains himself. his pops definitely pushes him though.
checkleft
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) *
It could mean a whole range of things if it was true. But that's a big if. Maybe it would explain how come they'd didn't film any sparring this time around? But if it was true, it really needs to be put into context, you know what Floyds like, does crazy rounds for crazy amount of time with fresh opposition when he himself is tired as. I mean remember when Floyd fractured a rib before the Marquez fight. Nothing new.

12lb in 30 days is nothing, any idea what Floyds was at?

I thought Floyd never allowed cameras I'm when in sparring?

Either way it sounds sketchy. But Floyd has some pretty good sparring partners so even if he is getting worked its probably a good thing, help him shake off the rust.
BrutUalBK
Well I remember a certain DLH getting worked by tiny little Valero and had serious black eyes before he got dusted off by MP and prior the fight everyone was saying that what happens in sparring was no indication of what would happen in the ring......I forget, what round was DLH stopped in??

I'm not making a comparison between DLH's defense and Floyd's but the black eye thing stands out to me, if that is true then if those are lesser fighters than RG that Floyd is facing in his training/sparring then he may be in for an even more tougher night than we originally thought if this is any indication.

Just saying!
daprofessor
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 18 2013, 07:53 PM) *
Well I remember a certain DLH getting worked by tiny little Valero and had serious black eyes before he got dusted off by MP and prior the fight everyone was saying that what happens in sparring was no indication of what would happen in the ring......I forget, what round was DLH stopped in??

I'm not making a comparison between DLH's defense and Floyd's but the black eye thing stands out to me, if that is true then if those are lesser fighters than RG that Floyd is facing in his training/sparring then he may be in for an even more tougher night than we originally thought if this is any indication.

Just saying!


here is video of the guy who is giving floyd the best work. how did i miss this???



he's a 168lb fighter.
mgrover
QUOTE (checkleft @ Apr 19 2013, 12:36 AM) *
I thought Floyd never allowed cameras I'm when in sparring?

Either way it sounds sketchy. But Floyd has some pretty good sparring partners so even if he is getting worked its probably a good thing, help him shake off the rust.


They live streamed when he was training for Cotton for whatever reason. Must of felt confidence in what he was doing as opposed to now. Maybe he wants to keep Guerrero guessing whether he'll be on the inside or pot shorting from the outside etc

Why is Floyd sparring 168lbers? Or does he expect Guerrero to be overweight by a lot lol
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 07:01 PM) *
here is video of the guy who is giving floyd the best work. how did i miss this???



he's a 168lb fighter.



I'm well aware of who Adonis is, so I guess the beatings that Floyd is taking from a far bigger fighter will prepare him even more to deal with the likes of a smaller RG (smaller than Stevenson anyway), is this the logic behind this?

If so, then I say that he'll be well prepared.
daprofessor
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 18 2013, 08:06 PM) *
I'm well aware of who Adonis is, so I guess the beatings that Floyd is taking from a far bigger fighter will prepare him even more to deal with the likes of a smaller RG (smaller than Stevenson anyway), is this the logic behind this?

If so, then I say that he'll be well prepared.


he's not sparring adonis...he's sparring gonzalez.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 07:07 PM) *
he's not sparring adonis...he's sparring gonzalez.



Still a far bigger fighter who can hurt a smallish 147lber
bnoles4life
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 08:03 PM) *
They live streamed when he was training for Cotton for whatever reason. Must of felt confidence in what he was doing as opposed to now. Maybe he wants to keep Guerrero guessing whether he'll be on the inside or pot shorting from the outside etc

Why is Floyd sparring 168lbers? Or does he expect Guerrero to be overweight by a lot lol


Definitely....probably getting used to the bigger guy leaning on him and trying to rough him up
mgrover
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 19 2013, 01:30 AM) *
Definitely....probably getting used to the bigger guy leaning on him and trying to rough him up


Probably with bigger guys is that there a lot slower[code][/code]
daprofessor
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Apr 18 2013, 08:22 PM) *
Still a far bigger fighter who can hurt a smallish 147lber



he may be bigger...but his shots aren't as fluid as guerrero's. i'm not sure the sparring is going to help him much. i'd be eager to see who guerrero is using for sparring. it works both ways.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 08:32 PM) *
Probably with bigger guys is that there a lot slower[code][/code]


True, but RG isn't the swiftest of foot and doesn't have exceptional "hand speed".
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 08:32 PM) *
Probably with bigger guys is that there a lot slower[code][/code]


exactly!!!

daprofessor
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 18 2013, 08:34 PM) *
True, but RG isn't the swiftest of foot and doesn't have exceptional "hand speed".


i think he's a sharper puncher than shane, ortiz and cotto when they all fought floyd.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 08:35 PM) *
i think he's a sharper puncher than shane, ortiz and cotto when they all fought floyd.


Yes, I'd agree...much straighter shots...especially from Shane "Toothache" Mosley
daprofessor
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Apr 18 2013, 08:39 PM) *
Yes, I'd agree...much straighter shots...especially from Shane "Toothache and i'm going on vacation" Mosley


fixed. laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) *
It could mean a whole range of things if it was true. But that's a big if. Maybe it would explain how come they'd didn't film any sparring this time around? But if it was true, it really needs to be put into context, you know what Floyds like, does crazy rounds for crazy amount of time with fresh opposition when he himself is tired as. I mean remember when Floyd fractured a rib before the Marquez fight. Nothing new.

12lb in 30 days is nothing, any idea what Floyds was at?


He was 3lbs off the 147lb limit
mrchitown
Who knows if it's true, it could be but we probably will never know. Reuben seems to be adding fuel to the fire, nothing wrong with that
bnoles4life
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 08:41 PM) *
fixed. laugh.gif


Word life, Prof!!!!
JammyJam
Whoever hit him, hit him good! Errol Spence is the Mayweather and Broner killer apparently lol. I don't truly believe he is gettin his ass beat but i'm sure he is gettin touched up a bit. He is sparring some quality guys and i'm sure he is trying different things in there that get him caught. Plus, we've heard stories about Mayweather taking L's in the past... Spadafora, the asian dude, lamont peterson. Maybe i'm wrong though...
checkleft
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 07:03 PM) *
They live streamed when he was training for Cotton for whatever reason. Must of felt confidence in what he was doing as opposed to now. Maybe he wants to keep Guerrero guessing whether he'll be on the inside or pot shorting from the outside etc

Why is Floyd sparring 168lbers? Or does he expect Guerrero to be overweight by a lot lol

I'm sure he put the one before the cotto fight up on purpose, he was talking to the camera. That one and the spadafora one are the only ones I've ever seen

Damn a super middle weight? That black eye is a trophy then if he's sparring guys that big.
VJones
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 18 2013, 06:06 PM) *
It could mean a whole range of things if it was true. But that's a big if. Maybe it would explain how come they'd didn't film any sparring this time around? But if it was true, it really needs to be put into context, you know what Floyds like, does crazy rounds for crazy amount of time with fresh opposition when he himself is tired as. I mean remember when Floyd fractured a rib before the Marquez fight. Nothing new.

12lb in 30 days is nothing, any idea what Floyds was at?


Floyd generally doesn't allow cameras during sparring, so that's not new. At the 30 day mark, he weighed in at 148.2. He's at fighting weight, able to eat whatever he wants. But that's not new either. He walks around in the low 50s, so fighting at welter affords him a generous diet.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 06:30 PM) *
i will give ruben this....this is the most shit i've ever seen anyone talk to floyd and his camp ever. laugh.gif either he's crazy....or he's a genius. we'll find out come may 4th.


True...so true. Lol. 'Course, it's no secret, I'm leaning towards, he's just crazy. Lol

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 06:32 PM) *
floyd has 3 sparring partners....

errol spence, sechew powell and jesus gonzalez. word is that gonzalez is giving him the best work.

there's a fine line between training someone to a peak...and over doing it. with more than one cook in the kitchen...this may be an issue. from an interview i saw earlier today from roger...he says he's the one steering the ship. i know floyd wants the whole family involved...i hope it's a good thing. jeff is down in panama. we'll see what happens come fight night.

on guerrero's side...i've seen guerrero and his pops work. honestly..i've always got the feeling that guerrero trains himself. his pops definitely pushes him though.


Jeff has always been the glue...so hopefully his presence will help it all come together.

Floyd also used Joseph Elegele. And of course some of his own fighters, like Arias.


QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 18 2013, 07:34 PM) *
he may be bigger...but his shots aren't as fluid as guerrero's. i'm not sure the sparring is going to help him much. i'd be eager to see who guerrero is using for sparring. it works both ways.


Guerrero's sparring partners are ok, but not great. On the other hand, who do you get when you face FM...if only Rigo was bigger or Ward smaller. wink.gif

I think there are only two...Lonnie Smith and Jesus Gutierrez.

QUOTE (JammyJam @ Apr 18 2013, 08:51 PM) *
Whoever hit him, hit him good! Errol Spence is the Mayweather and Broner killer apparently lol. I don't truly believe he is gettin his ass beat but i'm sure he is gettin touched up a bit. He is sparring some quality guys and i'm sure he is trying different things in there that get him caught. Plus, we've heard stories about Mayweather taking L's in the past... Spadafora, the asian dude, lamont peterson. Maybe i'm wrong though...


If anyone outside of the Guerrero camp started this rumor....maybe it would have some credence. But seriously, Guerrero Sr. "Heard"....after he saw the same bruise we could all see and hypothesize that Floyd is putting in serious work or Roger nicked him with a pad or he got caught with a punch or a head butt or thumbed.

Maybe he is getting worked by his sparring partners....but I certainly won't believe it based on Team Guerrero's word. Sounds like mind games to me.

Not to mention Errol has debunked (several times) the Broner knockout story. He also says Floyd is killing it in training and will run through Guerrero. Of course, it's not lost on me that he's supposed to say that.

But I believe him. smile.gif
mgrover
Sure but there must of been a reason to show it then and not now. Clearly Floyd doesn't like looking bad at all, which is most likely why he doesn't let people film them. So why did he in the Cotto fight? Why then and not now
Dolimite
Gentlemen this is boxing you are going to get touched even Floyd. This is what we want. We want to know that Floyd is going balls to the wall for this fight. It is just like in basketball or football when the players try and beat the shit out of each other. It gets them prepared for the game. He is in fight mode and of course he is going to get touched. I love this and guess what no matter how he is doing in sparring his record his professional record speaks volumes. So while Guerrero Sr. is salivating on the fact that Mayweather may have a black eye and talking about how great his prison stint was he needs to figure out a game plan for Mayweather. Talking shit can only take you so far and the last guy to talk shit majorly like this to Mayweather ended up on his face in the corner post... Mr. Hatton. Don't fuck with the bull if you don't want the horns.
mgrover
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 19 2013, 11:51 AM) *
Gentlemen this is boxing you are going to get touched even Floyd. This is what we want. We want to know that Floyd is going balls to the wall for this fight. It is just like in basketball or football when the players try and beat the shit out of each other. It gets them prepared for the game. He is in fight mode and of course he is going to get touched. I love this and guess what no matter how he is doing in sparring his record his professional record speaks volumes. So while Guerrero Sr. is salivating on the fact that Mayweather may have a black eye and talking about how great his prison stint was he needs to figure out a game plan for Mayweather. Talking shit can only take you so far and the last guy to talk shit majorly like this to Mayweather ended up on his face in the corner post... Mr. Hatton. Don't fuck with the bull if you don't want the horns.


I don't know I think Floyd's more the matador tongue.gif
leonthegee
I wouldnt be surprized if Floyd punched himself to hype the fight. Make people think Guerreros has a chance.
scdrking2
Floyd has been in great shape for this fight for over a month. Now is just about getting his mind and instincts back sharp. RG is still trying to get into physical shape. When Floyd shifts into plans B and C just to get him off balance, RG wont be able to think in the ring fast enough to adjust. Heck, I think once the ref stops him from the extra rough stuff he did in the Berto fight and Floyd takes him to the center of the ring, it is over for him.
Cshel86
Seems like guys are somewhat giving Floyd a pass for what happened in sparring...I wonder if people would give Guerrero that same courtesy if he sustained a black eye in sparring. Hmm...me thinks that people would go ahead and give Floyd the W for this fight, if Guerrero got a black eye in sparring. Just sayin'

I think that it's natural for athletes, fighters, etc. to get hurt to some degree while training. Most injuries occur during camp...we all know this. I've also been hearing that Spence has been giving Broner that work in sparring too. It must have been quite apparent if the word has been spreading, but who knows.

As somebody already mentioned, these guys (Floyd and Broner) don't like to look bad, so any little thing that happens in camp or in the ring, is gonna get blown out of the water. I also remember when Floyd caught the rib injury in sparring, nobody was saying that he got bested, they just chalked it up as the fight not selling as they thought it would, so it was postponed. I believe that a black eye is more convincing, though it can be also be spun in quite a few different directions.

Floyd only allowed his sparring session to be taped before the Cotto fight, because he was sparring guys that he knew and had sparred before. I believe he had mouse under his eye before the Mosley fight, nobody made that much of a deal out of it then. Rueben is doing what he's supposed to do...sell the fight, which Robert absolutely sucks at.

His father is convincing us that we're gonna see a fight on May 4th, while his son has us thinking that he's going to Iraq with a huge chance of not coming back...especially with him getting prayed over before sparring and the media workouts. Gotta love Rueben, he's another Angel Garcia...overly excited about the spotlight and relishing in the villain role!

Sparring says a lot, but then again, it says so little. Something is telling me that Guerrero is STILL spending too much time trying to make weight, because he still looked heavy early this week. I could be looking too much into it though. Since Floyd's right eye is black, its safe to say that it came from a left hand...something that Robert is pretty good at when he doubles up on them.
neophyte7
I have seen the great HOPKINS wear the effects of sparring.. A BLACK EYE in sparring? WHO THE FUCK CARES PLEASE!!! Shows me Mayweather is getting the work and prep he needs--- I would be willing to bet Guerrero will have black eyes for sure on May 4th
BigFightFan
The most intriguing thing about this fight is whether or not Mayweather can perform at the same level. The black eye adds fuel to that fire and will help sell the fight which is not sold out as of yet. The threat of FMWJR going up against the ghost is definitely not what's going to sell the fight.
mrchitown
Just because he has a black eye don't mean he got worked, people reading way too much into it on both sides
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 19 2013, 06:51 AM) *
Gentlemen this is boxing you are going to get touched even Floyd. This is what we want. We want to know that Floyd is going balls to the wall for this fight. It is just like in basketball or football when the players try and beat the shit out of each other. It gets them prepared for the game. He is in fight mode and of course he is going to get touched. I love this and guess what no matter how he is doing in sparring his record his professional record speaks volumes. So while Guerrero Sr. is salivating on the fact that Mayweather may have a black eye and talking about how great his prison stint was he needs to figure out a game plan for Mayweather. Talking shit can only take you so far and the last guy to talk shit majorly like this to Mayweather ended up on his face in the corner post... Mr. Hatton. Don't fuck with the bull if you don't want the horns.


ricky was shook the whole way leading up to the fight. i don't recall him talking much.

i'm just hoping floyd doesn't leave it all in the ring. like i said before....there's a fine line between reaching that peak and over training. floyd and his ppl have been at this a very long time. i'm sure they know what they're doing. mishaps are common.
daprofessor
QUOTE (neophyte7 @ Apr 19 2013, 11:19 AM) *
I have seen the great HOPKINS wear the effects of sparring.. A BLACK EYE in sparring? WHO THE FUCK CARES PLEASE!!! Shows me Mayweather is getting the work and prep he needs--- I would be willing to bet Guerrero will have black eyes for sure on May 4th


bhop got dropped in sparring before his first fight with ward. i think things like that are very telling and follow them into the fight.
Marcus
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 19 2013, 06:25 AM) *
Sure but there must of been a reason to show it then and not now. Clearly Floyd doesn't like looking bad at all, which is most likely why he doesn't let people film them. So why did he in the Cotto fight? Why then and not now




The only footage Floyd has ever released of himself sparring are for Cotto and another i forgot. So what youre saying is he looked bad for the sparring during all 41 of his other training camps? Only Floyd knows why he allowed his sparring footage to be released. We can't answer that question nor do i think its that critical for us to look for an answer. it was never that real.

As for what ruben said its a rumor. Whether true or false this is boxing. Shit happens. Many sources outside Floyds camp have said Floyds looking great. This is also his longest training camp.

As for Floyd sparring bigger dudes, he always spars bigger guys. Always. Thats nothing new. He spars them to familiarize himself with the power and weight/height advantage of his opponents.

If your sparring partners aren't giving you work then you need new sparring partners. the fight isn't won on fight night but in training camp. This is boxing gentlemen. Not that serious.
Marcus
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 19 2013, 01:44 PM) *
Just because he has a black eye don't mean he got worked, people reading way too much into it on both sides


Thank you. its not that serious.
mgrover
QUOTE (Marcus @ Apr 19 2013, 07:37 PM) *
The only footage Floyd has ever released of himself sparring are for Cotto and another i forgot. So what youre saying is he looked bad for the sparring during all 41 of his other training camps? Only Floyd knows why he allowed his sparring footage to be released. We can't answer that question nor do i think its that critical for us to look for an answer. it was never that real.

As for what ruben said its a rumor. Whether true or false this is boxing. Shit happens. Many sources outside Floyds camp have said Floyds looking great. This is also his longest training camp.

As for Floyd sparring bigger dudes, he always spars bigger guys. Always. Thats nothing new. He spars them to familiarize himself with the power and weight/height advantage of his opponents.

If your sparring partners aren't giving you work then you need new sparring partners. the fight isn't won on fight night but in training camp. This is boxing gentlemen. Not that serious.


Am not saying he did look bad, but if your live streaming and then you look bad you can't really do much about it can you. I mean when he beat Cotto but didn't look amazing doing it all these excuses started coming out of his camp.
Hotsauce
changed my mind, putting money on the ghost
Cshel86
I'm still laughing at how this would be if Guerrero got a black eye in sparring. Again, people would be 150% sure that Floyd would beat him easily, but the minute Floyd gets a black eye/mouse/etc, people go to defending him.

Again, in my recent post, things like this happen all the time, regardless of the fighter, player, whoever. It could mean something, and it could very well mean nothing at all. Again, Floyd allowed his sparring to be taped before the Cotto fight, because he was sparring people that he knew and had sparred before.

Things are much different when the camera's rolling, and you dont know much about who's in front of you.
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Apr 19 2013, 11:32 AM) *
ricky was shook the whole way leading up to the fight. i don't recall him talking much.

i'm just hoping floyd doesn't leave it all in the ring. like i said before....there's a fine line between reaching that peak and over training. floyd and his ppl have been at this a very long time. i'm sure they know what they're doing. mishaps are common.

Go back and watch 24/7 Ricky talked big shit. It was actually really funny he even made fun of his pad work.

If Guerrero got a black eye in sparring I would say, he got a black eye in sparring. It means nothing. People get hurt in practiced, Lebron James got dunked on in practice what the hell.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 19 2013, 05:07 PM) *
I'm still laughing at how this would be if Guerrero got a black eye in sparring. Again, people would be 150% sure that Floyd would beat him easily, but the minute Floyd gets a black eye/mouse/etc, people go to defending him.

Again, in my recent post, things like this happen all the time, regardless of the fighter, player, whoever. It could mean something, and it could very well mean nothing at all. Again, Floyd allowed his sparring to be taped before the Cotto fight, because he was sparring people that he knew and had sparred before.

Things are much different when the camera's rolling, and you dont know much about who's in front of you.



truth.
JammyJam
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 19 2013, 04:07 PM) *
I'm still laughing at how this would be if Guerrero got a black eye in sparring. Again, people would be 150% sure that Floyd would beat him easily, but the minute Floyd gets a black eye/mouse/etc, people go to defending him.

Again, in my recent post, things like this happen all the time, regardless of the fighter, player, whoever. It could mean something, and it could very well mean nothing at all. Again, Floyd allowed his sparring to be taped before the Cotto fight, because he was sparring people that he knew and had sparred before.

Things are much different when the camera's rolling, and you dont know much about who's in front of you.


Lol true shit. I'm not gonna lie I probably would think Mayweather would stretch his ass if he was gettin worked in sparring. I'm just saying fuck all the outside the ring shit, I'm ready to see what happens in the ring.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Apr 19 2013, 05:39 PM) *
Go back and watch 24/7 Ricky talked big shit. It was actually really funny he even made fun of his pad work.

If Guerrero got a black eye in sparring I would say, he got a black eye in sparring. It means nothing. People get hurt in practiced, Lebron James got dunked on in practice what the hell.


if guerrero got a black eye...it's believable and no big deal because he is very easy to hit.

floyd is a defensive master...so him getting a black eye is a big deal. make no mistake about it.
Franchize
If it means anything to anybody, in HS, LeBron came to Queens and played in this tournament called IS8. He only had like 4 points and he played the entire game. He was on lock. True Story


End of the day though......




daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 22 2013, 03:35 PM) *
If it means anything to anybody, in HS, LeBron came to Queens and played in this tournament called IS8. He only had like 4 points and he played the entire game. He was on lock. True Story


End of the day though......


he was in h.s. and that ass whoopin probably served him. floyd on the otherhand is on the tail end of his career at the age of 36. ass whoopins at this point will not serve him well.
neophyte7
is there evidence of a BLACK EYE??? please this is rediculous. Mayweather had a bloody nose in the Cotto fight... a jab can cause a nose to leak all night with one good stiff shot-- a black eye can come from a jab or a thumb. and it does not take repeated shots. So please.... This is bullshit. I have seen Hopkins looking weary lumped in worn in camps because he goes that hard. The MYSTERY BLACK EYE IS BULLSHIT-- where is the evidence???
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