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Jack 1000
Catch all the action and post-fight reactions to the Alvarez-Trout world Jr. Middleweight Championship Unification tonight! Keep everything in this thread.

Jack

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flazi
laurence cole is ref. that means trout is against 2 people in the ring.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (flazi @ Apr 20 2013, 04:17 PM) *
laurence cole is ref. that means trout is against 2 people in the ring.


Not just two people, but a potential mob of 30,000 well, Trout might have about 1000 fans from his area of New Mexico. However, Texas, its officials, and its community are unlikely to do sick Black fighting southpaws any favors. Whittaker's fight with Chavez in the same venue shows historic evidence of this. Jose Suliman's comments, "Alvarez is the best champion" a potentially very hostile crowd. NOTHING is in Trout's favor for this fight.

Jack
Cshel86
Trout better go for the gusto tonight...no time for bullshit and playing the people's champ role. I need a Ortiz/Berto round 1 from Trout, nothing less.

If he hurts Canelo, then he needs to follow up "effectively". Some guys get hurt early and actually get into the fight, and some struggle to recover, leading to an eventual TKO or loss on the cards.

Trout needs to use his jab and keep this dude off of him, because he will take a few shots just to get his own off. As we all know, Canelo hasn't been in there with a true 154 pounder, so the way he takes the shots and weight from his opponent, remains to be seen.

Canelo's fight is against the ropes, and his defense is a bit underrated. At the same time, it's not all that hard to find him either. Trout mentioned that down the stretch of the fight, Canelo tends to slow down. Well, Trout tends to take a couple of rounds off as well, so the breaking point may be the midpoint of the fight, if nothing crazy happens by the 5th.

I like Canelo's combination punches, which he's great at when his opponent stays in front of him too long. Since Trout is known to move during fights, I wonder what adjustments Canelo will make if that happens. Maybe slow him down with the body punches?

Canelo's best bet is to slow Trout down to the body, while Trout's best bet is to stick to his jab and follow up effectively with it. My biggest hopes here, is that both guys wont simultaneously use their weapons, or else we're in for a boring fight, which Trout is great at making. Lol

Trout AND his corner needs to watch out for the skullduggery that Texas doesn't mind serving up. His team needs to stay out of the ring until it's safe to step in, in the event that a knockdown or a damn near close stoppage occurs. Remember what happened in the Kirkland/Molina fight? And Molina is Hispanic for fuck's sake. They better not even leave a drop of water in the corner between rounds. Lol

I say that Trout takes this by a UD, possibly 7-5, which is usually the breaking point of a robbery happening because the other guy being awarded 7-5 for a close fight...ask Manny about that (Bradley fight). Anytime I hear 115-113, I start to worry. Lol. Canelo's not a "distance" fighter (fighting great down the stretch), and Trout is formidable opponent who will test him down the stretch, so we'll see.

Though I voted for a UD in favor of Trout, I feel Canelo upsetting the apple cart, just because I don't like him very much. Maybe a TKO in the 5th, or no later than the 7th if Trout gets reckless (maybe because of the crowd).

PS: Let's all pray that no "bad" cuts occur during this bout. Anybody ready to see Figuroa (sp) vs Abner Cotto??? I know I am.
Amandla
I'm rooting for Trout (like I said in the other thread for doing it the hard way) but I ain't seen enough of him. What he did against Cotto was mindblowing and a win here would be the beginnings of a real rivalry and some real money for Austin Trout. The kind of stuff he deserves.

I'm thinking about speed and power with Canelo. He has bucketfuls of that as hs disposal. Cotto is big and fast but Canelo is faster and stronger.

I can't wait for this to kick off.
mgrover
Does the fight start at 3am in the UK? or is that just the undercards?
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 06:11 PM) *
Trout better go for the gusto tonight...no time for bullshit and playing the people's champ role. I need a Ortiz/Berto round 1 from Trout, nothing less.

If he hurts Canelo, then he needs to follow up "effectively". Some guys get hurt early and actually get into the fight, and some struggle to recover, leading to an eventual TKO or loss on the cards.

Trout needs to use his jab and keep this dude off of him, because he will take a few shots just to get his own off. As we all know, Canelo hasn't been in there with a true 154 pounder, so the way he takes the shots and weight from his opponent, remains to be seen.

Canelo's fight is against the ropes, and his defense is a bit underrated. At the same time, it's not all that hard to find him either. Trout mentioned that down the stretch of the fight, Canelo tends to slow down. Well, Trout tends to take a couple of rounds off as well, so the breaking point may be the midpoint of the fight, if nothing crazy happens by the 5th.

I like Canelo's combination punches, which he's great at when his opponent stays in front of him too long. Since Trout is known to move during fights, I wonder what adjustments Canelo will make if that happens. Maybe slow him down with the body punches?

Canelo's best bet is to slow Trout down to the body, while Trout's best bet is to stick to his jab and follow up effectively with it. My biggest hopes here, is that both guys wont simultaneously use their weapons, or else we're in for a boring fight, which Trout is great at making. Lol

Trout AND his corner needs to watch out for the skullduggery that Texas doesn't mind serving up. His team needs to stay out of the ring until it's safe to step in, in the event that a knockdown or a damn near close stoppage occurs. Remember what happened in the Kirkland/Molina fight? And Molina is Hispanic for fuck's sake. They better not even leave a drop of water in the corner between rounds. Lol

I say that Trout takes this by a UD, possibly 7-5, which is usually the breaking point of a robbery happening because the other guy being awarded 7-5 for a close fight...ask Manny about that (Bradley fight). Anytime I hear 115-113, I start to worry. Lol. Canelo's not a "distance" fighter (fighting great down the stretch), and Trout is formidable opponent who will test him down the stretch, so we'll see.

Though I voted for a UD in favor of Trout, I feel Canelo upsetting the apple cart, just because I don't like him very much. Maybe a TKO in the 5th, or no later than the 7th if Trout gets reckless (maybe because of the crowd).

PS: Let's all pray that no "bad" cuts occur during this bout. Anybody ready to see Figuroa (sp) vs Abner Cotto??? I know I am.


WOW!

Cshel, did you post that right? Trout by UD 7-5? (115-113-no points off or knockdowns.)

I think Trout will in the eyes of most 116-112 to 115-113, but will lose a SD to Alvarez.

One judge will go 115-113 Trout
The other will go 115-113 Alvarez
The Texas designated judge will go a ridiculous 117-111 for Alvarez.

Cole, that little Texas commission Daddy's influence is gonna let Alvarez do his thing just like Lou Moret let Guerrero get away with anything during the Berto fight. This will be just as bad. Better not have Trout get a cut eye or some shit. The doctor could look to stop it over a little nothing scrap. And Suliman and "Grin Boy" Delahoya will be so happy! I hate Delhaoy's grin!!! He's be the kind of guy that would sit there with that grin at a funeral. He's been grinning since this fight was signed. Why would he let Alvarez take a hard fight with Trout unless something's up?

Jack
mgrover
Trout needs to dominate something like 9-3 to win
Cshel86
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:38 PM) *
WOW!

Cshel, did you post that right? Trout by UD 7-5? (115-113-no points off or knockdowns.)

I think Trout will in the eyes of most 116-112 to 115-113, but will lose a SD to Alvarez.

One judge will go 115-113 Trout
The other will go 115-113 Alvarez
The Texas designated judge will go a ridiculous 117-111 for Alvarez.

Cole, that little Texas commission Daddy's influence is gonna let Alvarez do his thing just like Lou Moret let Guerrero get away with anything during the Berto fight. This will be just as bad. Better not have Trout get a cut eye or some shit. The doctor could look to stop it over a little nothing scrap. And Suliman and "Grin Boy" Delahoya will be so happy! I hate Delhaoy's grin!!! He's be the kind of guy that would sit there with that grin at a funeral. He's been grinning since this fight was signed. Why would he let Alvarez take a hard fight with Trout unless something's up?

Jack

Sorry Jack, you know my math is bad when it comes to scoring. I can always tell you how many rounds a guy wins, but adding up the numbers is like Trigonometry for me, especially knockdowns/point deductions occur...or did I have it right??? Lol

Anytime it's close, like a 7-5 affair, you can almost bet that one judge has it for Fighter A, while the other judge has it for Fighter B, and you could only hope that the 3rd judge isn't a clueless jerkoff.

Trout needs to keep 'em up tonight, I remember one of his body shots strayed low against Miguel, or did he just catch him good? Canelo has the same tendencies to land 'em low, though he doesn't do it on purpose.

I agree with the whole officiating situation. I hope that the worse that Cole does tonight, is tell Canelo that he's winning the fight, just like he Marquez in one of his fight. laugh.gif Too funny. I cant Oscar De La Hommo and ANY facial expression that he makes. I don't know who will be worse ringside, him or gap-toothed Hopkins yelling instructions.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 06:47 PM) *
Trout needs to dominate something like 9-3 to win


Or at least get a draw.

Jack
aTYpicalTYrant
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 07:47 PM) *
Trout needs to dominate something like 9-3 to win


It will have to be definitive in order for him to win in Texas.... I believe he can.
Side note: I don't have an issue with people that are fans of Alvarez. That's totally acceptable. But I don't understand how he is so heavily favored to win (minus judging).... sTYles make fights and I just don't see this one in his favor. But hey I'm still learning so , "maybe I still don't know shit about boxing" lol
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 07:01 PM) *
Sorry Jack, you know my math is bad when it comes to scoring. I can always tell you how many rounds a guy wins, but adding up the numbers is like Trigonometry for me, especially knockdowns/point deductions occur...or did I have it right??? Lol

Anytime it's close, like a 7-5 affair, you can almost bet that one judge has it for Fighter A, while the other judge has it for Fighter B, and you could only hope that the 3rd judge isn't a clueless jerkoff.

Trout needs to keep 'em up tonight, I remember one of his body shots strayed low against Miguel, or did he just catch him good? Canelo has the same tendencies to land 'em low, though he doesn't do it on purpose.

I agree with the whole officiating situation. I hope that the worse that Cole does tonight, is tell Canelo that he's winning the fight, just like he Marquez in one of his fight. laugh.gif Too funny. I cant Oscar De La Hommo and ANY facial expression that he makes. I don't know who will be worse ringside, him or gap-toothed Hopkins yelling instructions.


LOL!!! But do you still think Trout can take a close decision tonight? I suck at Math too! hahaha. But I was surprised when you posted above that Trout would win a decision. I was sure that was a typo! thumbsup_anim.gif

Jack
leonthegee
SHOEX bout to start that shit.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 20 2013, 07:02 PM) *
It will have to be definitive in order for him to win in Texas.... I believe he can.
Side note: I don't have an issue with people that are fans of Alvarez. That's totally acceptable. But I don't understand how he is so heavily favored to win (minus judging).... sTYles make fights and I just don't see this one in his favor. But hey I'm still learning so , "maybe I still don't know shit about boxing" lol


I think the high potential for bullshit judging or ref job, plus the fact it is in Texas is influencing the betting odds.

Jack
mgrover
this needs to start lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:05 PM) *
LOL!!! But do you still think Trout can take a close decision tonight? I suck at Math too! hahaha. But I was surprised when you posted above that Trout would win a decision. I was sure that was a typo! thumbsup_anim.gif

Jack

I'm not sure if he can win a close one. If it's close, it's no longer his fight. Reminder, he could lose rounds for lack of activity. If he does win a decision, then it will be disgustingly and undeservingly (if that's even a word) close.

I noticed how big the ring is, could Trout be getting set up? Over the past few weeks, "boxing" has been defined as "running", so maybe Trout will box a few rounds, and lose them for using the ring and "running" (translation: boxing).

PS: Im watching ShoExtreme right...and whichever Charlo twin is fighting Orlando Lora tonight, he better stay on his A-game, or he'll end up meeting the same fate as Cunningham did earlier.
Cshel86
Gotta love the Charlo twins, these young guys are sharp and disciplined.

Lora is big step up Jarmal tonight, hopes he stays on course til the end of the fight.
Cshel86
Charlo's left hook is nasty! It's well calculated and cool...dude is so poised in there. Lora wont give up , though he took some hard whistling shots.

Of course Charlo's won the first 1 rounds. We all know that Lora probably wont ever win a decision, he just goes for the KO every time.
Cshel86
Lora's face looks like ground chuck right now no2.gif

He's still dangerous nonetheless.
Cshel86
Charlo almost out Lora down in the 5th with that overhand right. Ugly...

Cshel86
Well nevermind, his corner stopped it.

Lora never really had a chance unless he landed something big. I'm glad they stopped it though, he would've just gotten boxed to death, with nothing in return.
Cshel86
I always thought the Alamode dome was outside. Hmm...

Is anybody else indulging in the herbs this evening??? Or is it just me?
mgrover
who knows, all i know is that is 3am, am tired as fuck, they better start soon lol
Franchize
Trout has seemed incredibly poised and relaxed since the fight was announced.
aTYpicalTYrant
too many folks at my boys house... I'm going home. Can i please get a link to a stream if possible?
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 10:09 PM) *
who knows, all i know is that is 3am, am tired as fuck, they better start soon lol

Just smoke some weed man...
mgrover
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 21 2013, 03:12 AM) *
Just smoke some weed man...


nahhh not my thing
mgrover
QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Apr 21 2013, 03:11 AM) *
too many folks at my boys house... I'm going home. Can i please get a link to a stream if possible?


stream sent
Franchize
Why does Figueroa look so nervous?
Franchize
Figueroa's trunks and kicks are dope
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Apr 20 2013, 10:14 PM) *
nahhh not my thing

That "naaaah" was a bit too long...let's me know that you've puff-puff-passed before. You aint foolin' me MG. laugh.gif

Figeroa (sp) is going nuts in the there....better slow down.
mgrover
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 21 2013, 03:18 AM) *
That "naaaah" was a bit too long...let's me know that you've puff-puff-passed before. You aint foolin' me MG. laugh.gif

Figeroa (sp) is going nuts in the there....better slow down.


no word of a lie, lol never tried it in my life, alcohol gets me just right haha
Franchize
What a terrible fight lmao. Looks like a deer fight lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:17 PM) *
Figueroa's trunks and kicks are dope

Man please, his kicks looks like he has on black church socks with no shoes.
Franchize
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:20 PM) *
Man please, his kicks looks like he has on black church socks with no shoes.

I liked em lol The patent leather check in black was cool to me
Cshel86
Had to tweet "Shut up" to fat ass Dan Rafael, for saying that Figueroa "destroyed" Cotto in one round. This is the same sack of shit that said that Rigo/Donaire was "boring". Smh

QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:26 PM) *
I liked em lol The patent leather check in black was cool to me

Yeah they were alright...I'm just hating a bit. laugh.gif
mrchitown
Sees Guerrero on my tv, turns back to Bulls game to watch this slaughter end lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:30 PM) *
Sees Guerrero on my tv, turns back to Bulls game to watch this slaughter end lol

I heard Derrick Rose is lookin' perpetually shitty out there tonight.

Oscar's such a homo. What man has the word "slippery" in the front of his memory bank. De La Homo is a joke most of the time. Lol

Why is he trying to sound extra Mexican tonight, just because they're Texas? FOH homo
Franchize
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:30 PM) *
Sees Guerrero on my tv, turns back to Bulls game to watch this slaughter end lol


I did the same thing. I wish I kept it on because De La Hoya is talking some absolute bullshit.
Franchize
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 10:32 PM) *
I heard Derrick Rose is lookin' perpetually shitty out there tonight.

Oscar's such a homo. What man has the word "slippery" in the front of his memory bank. De La Homo is a joke most of the time. Lol

Why is he trying to sound extra Mexican tonight, just because they're Texas? FOH homo


Rose didn't play.

And yea...Gay La Hoya is talkin some bullshit
BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 09:33 PM) *
Rose didn't play.

And yea...Gay La Hoya is talkin some bullshit


He's gotta sell the fight
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM) *
I did the same thing. I wish I kept it on because De La Hoya is talking some absolute bullshit.


I missed De La Hoya's comments, I'll catch them later. But I'm sure e spewed his usual anti Mayweather rhetoric
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Apr 20 2013, 10:33 PM) *
Rose didn't play.

And yea...Gay La Hoya is talkin some bullshit

Oh okay, I thought he was playing tonight. Guess that's what I get for reading shit on Twitter, lol.

I'm so over Oscar and Garter Belt Promotions
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 09:32 PM) *
I heard Derrick Rose is lookin' perpetually shitty out there tonight.

Oscar's such a homo. What man has the word "slippery" in the front of his memory bank. De La Homo is a joke most of the time. Lol

Why is he trying to sound extra Mexican tonight, just because they're Texas? FOH homo


You probably talking about Nate, he's a poor man's Rose ...They all played shitty. But TBH, Chicago hate Rose right now, he getting alot of heat. Some dude in the burbs sued him this week for not playing lol

He trying to connect with his people, let him be Shels lol
Plah
Hello ya'll Trout 8-4
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Apr 20 2013, 10:38 PM) *
You probably talking about Nate, he's a poor man's Rose ...They all played shitty. But TBH, Chicago hate Rose right now, he getting alot of heat. Some dude in the burbs sued him this week for not playing lol

He trying to connect with his people, let him be Shels lol

laugh.gif

Didn't the guy sue him for emotional distress or somethin' like that? Dudes need to stop betting on games, or this will always happen. Lol

YES! We get to see Trout's wife tonight! yahoo.gif
Franchize
Didnt Trout fight Cotto at MSG? I don't think the crowd will effect him at all. You can't much louder than fighting a Puerto Rican in NY and the most famous arena in sports.
Franchize
I swear I have to shit before EVERY big fight lol Never fails lol
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Apr 20 2013, 09:46 PM) *
laugh.gif

Didn't the guy sue him for emotional distress or somethin' like that? Dudes need to stop betting on games, or this will always happen. Lol

YES! We get to see Trout's wife tonight! yahoo.gif


Yup, he said because Rose didn't play that that's the reason he's obese now and that he's been having emotional breakdowns. It don't get no better then that lol

Man, I think I'm going to make a pic collage of some of these boxers ladies. I'll put Bella in there, Austin's chick, Cotto's wife and Margarito's wife in there too for starters lol
mrchitown
Da F*ck Franchize??? laugh.gif
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