QUOTE (daprofessor @ May 6 2013, 11:37 AM)
first...let me say that i have always believed floyd sr to be the superior trainer. i don't believe it's a secret that roger has been more offensive minded when it comes to boxing in comparison to sr who is more defensive minded. with that being said, it is roger who inherited a complete fighter imo...so there really was no teaching/coaching so to speak. roger is just a second pair of eyes to floyd. sometimes he sees things...sometimes he doesn't. floyd sr is a second brain to floyd. floyd himself said it...when something isn't working floyd sr gives him other options. there's no "keep doing what you're doing..." from him.
floyd jr is a chip off the old block. they both have massive egos. i've always viewed floyd jr's disrespect in the past as a way of him becoming his own man and being a jr myself....i sort of get it. i am happy to see sr back in his corner and i don't believe floyd jr's statements are throwing roger under the bus...they're just truth. that's not to say roger isn't a great trainer...he is in comparison to most, but floyd sr is the best. period.
the floyd i saw in the ring last saturday looked 10 yrs younger. the change that sticks out the most to me is having his pops back in his corner and in the gym. if that isn't proof enough for everyone...then i don't know what it will take to convince u.
Outstanding point Professor! Again I never thought Roger's instructions were great, but I was looking at the chemistry between the two. Good post Professor.
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ May 6 2013, 11:50 AM)
I dont think he threw Roger under the bus, he just put the facts out there. Why have Roger be his chief corner man, when he's having vision problems. I wonder how he does the mitt work, if that's the case, but hell, mitt work and an actual fight are two different things.
I just dont like how butthurt Sr has been over the years about not being able to train his son, regardless of him just saying that he wants a "relationship" with him. The relationship that they've always appeared to have, was boxing itself, but those egos of theirs can easily ruin that again.
If Floyd is getting hit (like he did in the Cotto fight), and Roger is just telling him to "keep doing what you're doing", then it makes Floyd look older and "over the hill", though he doesn't appear to be.
It almost makes it seem like he's fighting to prove the public wrong, rather than moving on to something else when one thing doesn't seem to work. It was dead obvious that Floyd couldn't land anything clean & effective on Cotto for a vast majority of the fight.
Good post. I see your hangover is gone.... Good points! My nerves are calm now.