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Dolimite
Have yawl notice Ward has a new attitude. he speaks with a chip on his shoulder and has an air of conceded type of attitude. I wonder if he is thinking he has to change his good guy type of tune or he is just tired of people overlooking him. He is 29, so I guess he has to try to start making big money fights and putting asses in the seats. With the rise of certain fighters popularity, Ward must feel the pressure to not fade out. I don't blame him for calling out Chavez Jr.
mrchitown
I think your reaching...conceded confidence? Stop it! If you've heard him lately he's placed the issue of his popularity and rightfully so, at the doorsteps of his promoter and his manager J. Prince. It seems to me that he sees them slacking and he's picking up what their not doing. After all it is his career. Ward is a unique individual, he's not the average athlete and I can say that with confidence having spoken to him numerous times. You can forget him ditching the good guy image, he's just telling it how it is and that's it

The only thing I will say that seems off is that after Mayweather made those comments towards him, he seems amped up to make bigger and more meaningful fights
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 3 2013, 10:10 PM) *
I think your reaching...conceded confidence? Stop it! If you've heard him lately he's placed the issue of his popularity and rightfully so, at the doorsteps of his promoter and his manager J. Prince. It seems to me that he sees them slacking and he's picking up what their not doing. After all it is his career. Ward is a unique individual, he's not the average athlete and I can say that with confidence having spoken to him numerous times. You can forget him ditching the good guy image, he's just telling it how it is and that's it

The only thing I will say that seems off is that after Mayweather made those comments towards him, he seems amped up to make bigger and more meaningful fights


My point exactly. he is more aggressive in his speech. That is what I am saying. He seems so much more intense.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 4 2013, 10:07 AM) *
My point exactly. he is more aggressive in his speech. That is what I am saying. He seems so much more intense.


Aint nothing wrong with that, he feels his team is slacking so he's pulling a few rabbits out the hat. I like his brand of trash talk and his attitude lately, he does everything with class
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 4 2013, 10:44 AM) *
Aint nothing wrong with that, he feels his team is slacking so he's pulling a few rabbits out the hat. I like his brand of trash talk and his attitude lately, he does everything with class

Should he jump ship, to TR, GB, or TMT? They exposure would be astronomical.
mgrover
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 4 2013, 06:50 PM) *
Should he jump ship, to TR, GB, or TMT? They exposure would be astronomical.


TMT really?
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 4 2013, 12:50 PM) *
Should he jump ship, to TR, GB, or TMT? They exposure would be astronomical.


He has a unique problem in the sense that whose out there for him to fight? He could rematch Froch and beat on him some more but after that, then what? There are some solid SMW's coming up but they need time to develop and by that time he'll probably be up at LHW. And whose there for him to fight? I'd like to see a rematch between he and Chad at Chad's comfortable weight as I think he'd perform better but I still see Ward beating him. He's a star who wants to go to the next level with no talent around him to get him there

And he has an exposure problem, true he's with HBO now and that will help tremendously. But his promoter needs to push him more, I don't know why the hell he got with J Prince because no one seems to know what he does exactly in the management capacity. Ward is a special talent and it takes outside the box and special ideas to push that talent and get it to where it needs to be. I think he should leave his promoter, who he should go with I don't really know
daprofessor
ward seems like the same God fearing down to earth dude he's always been. he's said...he can walk away from the sport now with the satisfaction of knowing that he gave it his all...and did the best he could do. he still wants to accomplish more...and i've always got the impression that he would. i think a lot of how he is choosing to communicate these days has more to do with some of the shit that is being thrown at him. he's putting things in perspective. he speaks with confidence and always has. ward is behaving like a man. don't expect any emotional shit talking or any of that. he does all of his talking in the ring.
Dolimite
QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 4 2013, 10:07 AM) *
TMT really?

Exposure. Not saying they are a great promotional company, not yet, but come on it will give him a bigger push in the mainstream.
Jovi
Fight more talk less. That's how you get exposure. Have 3 or 4 top opponents and dominate like he most likely would and he'd be good. Get a fighter of the year award and actually get on a PPV.

JCC, GGG, Canelo, BHOP. The Dawson or Froch rematches; which i don't really think he needs since he handled both soundly and definitively. Froch does deserve it more.

Also Andre Ward on Money team would be awesome i think, Mayweather should stack up on the Olympians. Get Rigondeaux too. I would love to see Mayweather, Ward, and Rigondeaux on the same fight card. Probably wouldn't happen but now a days if I'm paying for a PPV, i better be paying for more than 1 talent to watch.

I haven't been around too long but i wondered if they ever had days when their was more than 1 headlining fight on a PPV card so its actually worth the money instead of just 1 Main fight. They do it on UFC and i like the idea.
mattww
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 5 2013, 11:42 PM) *
Fight more talk less. That's how you get exposure. Have 3 or 4 top opponents and dominate like he most likely would and he'd be good. Get a fighter of the year award and actually get on a PPV.

JCC, GGG, Canelo, BHOP. The Dawson or Froch rematches; which i don't really think he needs since he handled both soundly and definitively. Froch does deserve it more.

Also Andre Ward on Money team would be awesome i think, Mayweather should stack up on the Olympians. Get Rigondeaux too. I would love to see Mayweather, Ward, and Rigondeaux on the same fight card. Probably wouldn't happen but now a days if I'm paying for a PPV, i better be paying for more than 1 talent to watch.

I haven't been around too long but i wondered if they ever had days when their was more than 1 headlining fight on a PPV card so its actually worth the money instead of just 1 Main fight. They do it on UFC and i like the idea.


3 or 4 top opponents? The man has faced Dawson, Froch, Abraham and Kessler the past 3 years, not to mention solid wins in between.
He's already won a fighter of the year award.
Getting on PPV falls on his management and promotional team.
Canelo isn't going anywhere near Ward draining himself to 154, neither is GGG or BHOP as he's stated all along. There's no need for a Froch rematch unless it makes financial sense, cause he took care of him pretty easily the first time, as he did Dawson. The only fight out there is JCC if he wants to step up, or a move to light heavyweight.

There's not a lot going for Ward, he's already shown he's the cream of the crop, there isn't anyone out there around the division that will pose any kind of challenge to him, and that's out of his control. That, and the boxing public and networks don't appreciate the sweet science for what it is anymore. Ward's a master technician that only the die hard purists who appreciate real boxing can be entertained about. And it's pretty sad that a true champion like Ward has to suffer for it.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 5 2013, 08:42 AM) *
Fight more talk less. That's how you get exposure. Have 3 or 4 top opponents and dominate like he most likely would and he'd be good. Get a fighter of the year award and actually get on a PPV.

JCC, GGG, Canelo, BHOP. The Dawson or Froch rematches; which i don't really think he needs since he handled both soundly and definitively. Froch does deserve it more.

Also Andre Ward on Money team would be awesome i think, Mayweather should stack up on the Olympians. Get Rigondeaux too. I would love to see Mayweather, Ward, and Rigondeaux on the same fight card. Probably wouldn't happen but now a days if I'm paying for a PPV, i better be paying for more than 1 talent to watch.

I haven't been around too long but i wondered if they ever had days when their was more than 1 headlining fight on a PPV card so its actually worth the money instead of just 1 Main fight. They do it on UFC and i like the idea.


The only thing that you stated here that he hasn't done is been on a PPV. He's tried the fight more talk less, it didn't work. He dominated the best opponents in his division in the super 6 and it still didn't work for him. He even beat and stopped Dawson which was one of his best fights and it aint work. He won fighter of the year when he whipped Froch a few years ago

It's broke and it needs fixing, he knows that now and he is trying to do just that. And I don't think that would be a good idea for him to fight under TMT. Greatness shouldn't fight under greatness
Jovi
it just seems like after each of his Biggest fights (the fights after super six) he ends up getting injured or something and we don't see him or hear from him in awhile. I know its his promotional team but Damn, he needs to take responsibility for himself. Its Andre Ward's career, not j prince's or whatever his promoters name is. Andre Ward isn't a top or big draw so he can't fight like he is fighting only once or twice a year... We need 3 or 4 fights a year.

I'm trying to understand Ward, so ill put myself in his shoes. All that skill, god given talent, gold medalist, undefeated and still not a top draw? He's a good man, so the people would like him if he got alittle exposure, maybe talked alittle tiny bit more trash just for a headline here or there. But the best way for him to get exposure is doing what he does best and beat anybody who steps in the ring with him. Maybe a few more fighters from the latino demographic. JCC at his weight, and when Canelo grows out of middle weight he can get it too. GGG said he would go up for the fight so why not take down this titan. He wont get the exposure beating up the White boys that not much people know.

I had a fight party for Ward vs Dawson. The people i had over aren't boxing purists so i was the only one who was really into it while they were trying to figure out who was who. I liked Dawson but he just got into the ring with the wrong one, totally outclassed. While people saw that as a boring fight, i saw it as a pivotal moment in both fighters Careers. And now look i haven't seen a fight from either of them...Soon ill finally see Chad again and hopefully that loss made him work harder because he has room to improve.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 6 2013, 06:42 AM) *
it just seems like after each of his Biggest fights (the fights after super six) he ends up getting injured or something and we don't see him or hear from him in awhile. I know its his promotional team but Damn, he needs to take responsibility for himself. Its Andre Ward's career, not j prince's or whatever his promoters name is. Andre Ward isn't a top or big draw so he can't fight like he is fighting only once or twice a year... We need 3 or 4 fights a year.

I'm trying to understand Ward, so ill put myself in his shoes. All that skill, god given talent, gold medalist, undefeated and still not a top draw? He's a good man, so the people would like him if he got alittle exposure, maybe talked alittle tiny bit more trash just for a headline here or there. But the best way for him to get exposure is doing what he does best and beat anybody who steps in the ring with him. Maybe a few more fighters from the latino demographic. JCC at his weight, and when Canelo grows out of middle weight he can get it too. GGG said he would go up for the fight so why not take down this titan. He wont get the exposure beating up the White boys that not much people know.

I had a fight party for Ward vs Dawson. The people i had over aren't boxing purists so i was the only one who was really into it while they were trying to figure out who was who. I liked Dawson but he just got into the ring with the wrong one, totally outclassed. While people saw that as a boring fight, i saw it as a pivotal moment in both fighters Careers. And now look i haven't seen a fight from either of them...Soon ill finally see Chad again and hopefully that loss made him work harder because he has room to improve.

The weight really bothered Dawnson, I am sorry, Dawson was way past his head for draining himself.

Ward needs a new promotional company. If he fought GGG it would be smart because he is the new top gun. Mind you people want Ward to fight Mayweather!!!!!!! Not for Ward's legacy but for Mayweather's! That tells you what people think of his skill set but come, no one knows Ward outside of Oakland and hardcore fans. If Ward signed with either TR or GB he would be exposed at the greatest level. He is knocking on 30 and hasn't had a block buster PPV offer or a big money fight. He needs exposure. A good guy with a sharp tongue will give him fan. He can be the rich man's Shane Mosley. If he fought JCC Jr. that would be big, but he would have to sign with Top Rank, that is alot of money for Bob and Bob loves money.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 3 2013, 10:59 PM) *
Have yawl notice Ward has a new attitude. he speaks with a chip on his shoulder and has an air of conceded type of attitude. I wonder if he is thinking he has to change his good guy type of tune or he is just tired of people overlooking him. He is 29, so I guess he has to try to start making big money fights and putting asses in the seats. With the rise of certain fighters popularity, Ward must feel the pressure to not fade out. I don't blame him for calling out Chavez Jr.



What Ward is tired of is the same criticisms that BHop had to endure the latter part of his career and that is that due to the fact that he is so technical he appears boring and adding to the fact that he isn't a big puncher (meaning he doesn't KO everyone) he is less of a draw/less exciting.

I think the criticisms are unfair, Ward is very technical and I actually enjoy the kind of fighter that actually uses boxing skills to win; every fight doesn't have to be a KO to be exciting to me.

Ward does those little things so much better than many of today's fighters which is why he and guys like BHop are still on top and will stay that way. He does feel the heat from it and is lashing out a little at those naysayers but all he has to do is continue to win and he will receive the admiration he deserves especially when he gets older.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 5 2013, 08:42 AM) *
Fight more talk less. That's how you get exposure. Have 3 or 4 top opponents and dominate like he most likely would and he'd be good. Get a fighter of the year award and actually get on a PPV.

JCC, GGG, Canelo, BHOP. The Dawson or Froch rematches; which i don't really think he needs since he handled both soundly and definitively. Froch does deserve it more.

Also Andre Ward on Money team would be awesome i think, Mayweather should stack up on the Olympians. Get Rigondeaux too. I would love to see Mayweather, Ward, and Rigondeaux on the same fight card. Probably wouldn't happen but now a days if I'm paying for a PPV, i better be paying for more than 1 talent to watch.

I haven't been around too long but i wondered if they ever had days when their was more than 1 headlining fight on a PPV card so its actually worth the money instead of just 1 Main fight. They do it on UFC and i like the idea.


stacking ppv cards with good fights isn't foreign to boxing. don king had 5 title fights on one card once. that was the last ppv i ever bought. it ended up being shit. but he did stack some great cards back in the day. he was the best at this.

ward was fighter of the year after he won the super 6.
Dolimite
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jun 6 2013, 01:34 PM) *
What Ward is tired of is the same criticisms that BHop had to endure the latter part of his career and that is that due to the fact that he is so technical he appears boring and adding to the fact that he isn't a big puncher (meaning he doesn't KO everyone) he is less of a draw/less exciting.

I think the criticisms are unfair, Ward is very technical and I actually enjoy the kind of fighter that actually uses boxing skills to win; every fight doesn't have to be a KO to be exciting to me.

Ward does those little things so much better than many of today's fighters which is why he and guys like BHop are still on top and will stay that way. He does feel the heat from it and is lashing out a little at those naysayers but all he has to do is continue to win and he will receive the admiration he deserves especially when he gets older.

You don't think his promotional company (J Prince) is fucking him in the long run?
Jovi
I wanna blame his promotional company, and i dont wanna question Andre ward's integrity but the blame for his "fame" in boxing falls on him. He has the credentials and skills to be big but if his promoter was the problem why doesn't he just leave? So many people have left Top Rank because they felt some way about it, why doesn't ward do the same thing with his promotional company?
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 6 2013, 06:28 PM) *
I wanna blame his promotional company, and i dont wanna question Andre ward's integrity but the blame for his "fame" in boxing falls on him. He has the credentials and skills to be big but if his promoter was the problem why doesn't he just leave? So many people have left Top Rank because they felt some way about it, why doesn't ward do the same thing with his promotional company?


he's content with goosen. he's getting what he wants. everyone seems to be measuring him to floyd. they're different ppl.
KOpower
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 4 2013, 02:56 PM) *
He has a unique problem in the sense that whose out there for him to fight? He could rematch Froch and beat on him some more but after that, then what? There are some solid SMW's coming up but they need time to develop and by that time he'll probably be up at LHW. And whose there for him to fight? I'd like to see a rematch between he and Chad at Chad's comfortable weight as I think he'd perform better but I still see Ward beating him. He's a star who wants to go to the next level with no talent around him to get him there

And he has an exposure problem, true he's with HBO now and that will help tremendously. But his promoter needs to push him more, I don't know why the hell he got with J Prince because no one seems to know what he does exactly in the management capacity. Ward is a special talent and it takes outside the box and special ideas to push that talent and get it to where it needs to be. I think he should leave his promoter, who he should go with I don't really know


Hopkins had this same problem back in the day. Ward just has to continue to do what he is doing...and that is clean out everyone. He can make good money doing just that and eventually a mega-fight will come up. Ward will eventually get his big fights. It may not be now, but if he continues to dominate then someone will emerge over the next 2 or 3 years.
daprofessor
he's beat all the best in division. he'll have to wait for a new threat to emerge before he can slay them. at this point....if stevenson beats dawson...he can call out ward...that wouldn't be a super fight but if adonis can ko dawson it makes it look like ward is taking on a beast. if dawson beats stevenson impressively, he can say the fight against ward was a fluke and challenge ward to come up. he wouldn't be standing on anything, but it's a possibility. there's so many variables....it's hard to see any big pay days for him.

here's the list of opposition available....

froch
bika
bute
stevenson
ward
bhop
stiegletz
oosthuizen
groves
rodriquez
dirrell
cloud
cleverly
chavez jr
ggg

none of these guys spells big pay day immediately except for maybe bhop. he just has to wait and see what develops and stay busy in the mean time. i think ggg can be a big pay day before he makes his move to 175. chavez jr as well.
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 6 2013, 06:23 PM) *
he's beat all the best in division. he'll have to wait for a new threat to emerge before he can slay them. at this point....if stevenson beats dawson...he can call out ward...that wouldn't be a super fight but if adonis can ko dawson it makes it look like ward is taking on a beast. if dawson beats stevenson impressively, he can say the fight against ward was a fluke and challenge ward to come up. he wouldn't be standing on anything, but it's a possibility. there's so many variables....it's hard to see any big pay days for him.

here's the list of opposition available....

froch
bika
bute
stevenson
ward
bhop
stiegletz
oosthuizen
groves
rodriquez
dirrell
cloud
cleverly
chavez jr
ggg

none of these guys spells big pay day immediately except for maybe bhop. he just has to wait and see what develops and stay busy in the mean time. i think ggg can be a big pay day before he makes his move to 175. chavez jr as well.


you forgot mayweather. duh!
Jovi
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 6 2013, 07:36 PM) *
he's content with goosen. he's getting what he wants. everyone seems to be measuring him to floyd. they're different ppl.


He could be much bigger if only HE took control of his own destiny and career. He's a smart man and he can actually articulate his ideas and convey them even when being an announcer. Compared to Floyd always saying the same lines time and time again. Ward could go above and beyond even Floyd, he's done things Floyd wasn't able to do, get that Gold Medal.

He's getting too comfortable, and what would happen if Ward were to lose? People already don't know him other than those that watch boxing everyday, if he loses does he go back to fighting only once every 1 or 2 years. Either way he seems to be fading away if he doesn't take the big fights fast! Chavez jr, and GGG would be the best fights right now that would put his name on the map. Then command the Steven or Dawson winner. Take Canelo as another big $$ fight as he moves up, its only 1 weight class difference.
mgrover
I really don't know why everyones pushing GGG onto Ward, Wards a lot bigger than him. I don't mean in size either
Dolimite
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 7 2013, 06:56 AM) *
He could be much bigger if only HE took control of his own destiny and career. He's a smart man and he can actually articulate his ideas and convey them even when being an announcer. Compared to Floyd always saying the same lines time and time again. Ward could go above and beyond even Floyd, he's done things Floyd wasn't able to do, get that Gold Medal.

He's getting too comfortable, and what would happen if Ward were to lose? People already don't know him other than those that watch boxing everyday, if he loses does he go back to fighting only once every 1 or 2 years. Either way he seems to be fading away if he doesn't take the big fights fast! Chavez jr, and GGG would be the best fights right now that would put his name on the map. Then command the Steven or Dawson winner. Take Canelo as another big $$ fight as he moves up, its only 1 weight class difference.

Anyone with eyes could see Floyd was cheated out of the Gold Medal. I saw it with my own eyes. he was cheated. Matter of fact one of the judges retired because he was so disgusted what went down.

Ward needs new management and J Prince isn't it. If Mosley is getting better match ups then you then you know it is time to switch!
Jovi
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 12:49 PM) *
Anyone with eyes could see Floyd was cheated out of the Gold Medal. I saw it with my owns. he was cheated. Matter of fact one of the judges retired because he was so disgusted what went down.

Ward needs new management and J Prince isn't it. If Mosley is getting better match ups then you then you know it is time to switch!


I agree with you, I thought he won the fight.
Junior80
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 4 2013, 03:13 PM) *
ward seems like the same God fearing down to earth dude he's always been. he's said...he can walk away from the sport now with the satisfaction of knowing that he gave it his all...and did the best he could do. he still wants to accomplish more...and i've always got the impression that he would. i think a lot of how he is choosing to communicate these days has more to do with some of the shit that is being thrown at him. he's putting things in perspective. he speaks with confidence and always has. ward is behaving like a man. don't expect any emotional shit talking or any of that. he does all of his talking in the ring.

I agree with you, I think ward is amazing, he is a REAL guy, and a real deal tuff guy , he doesn't play games, he takes things serious I don't ever see this guys head bloating, he is too much of a mans man for that....
Junior80
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 7 2013, 10:56 AM) *
He could be much bigger if only HE took control of his own destiny and career. He's a smart man and he can actually articulate his ideas and convey them even when being an announcer. Compared to Floyd always saying the same lines time and time again. Ward could go above and beyond even Floyd, he's done things Floyd wasn't able to do, get that Gold Medal.

He's getting too comfortable, and what would happen if Ward were to lose? People already don't know him other than those that watch boxing everyday, if he loses does he go back to fighting only once every 1 or 2 years. Either way he seems to be fading away if he doesn't take the big fights fast! Chavez jr, and GGG would be the best fights right now that would put his name on the map. Then command the Steven or Dawson winner. Take Canelo as another big $$ fight as he moves up, its only 1 weight class difference.

Ward reminds me of mayweather in the sense that when he is fighting I know his conditioning and focus are at 100% With that being said I do not see ward losing anytime soon , unless some Roy jones type surfaces out of the blue.....also canelo alveraz is a big young kid, don't be surprised if he fills out enough to challenge ward
Dolimite
QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 7 2013, 02:58 PM) *
Ward reminds me of mayweather in the sense that when he is fighting I know his conditioning and focus are at 100% With that being said I do not see ward losing anytime soon , unless some Roy jones type surfaces out of the blue.....also canelo alveraz is a big young kid, don't be surprised if he fills out enough to challenge ward

LMAO! Yeah right, he only fights people in lower divisions. he is 41-0 and that last win was the FIRST fight he had agaisnt a fighter in his weight class.
anthonyaccurate
not to be that dude, but its 'conceited', not 'conceded' attitude.
Dolimite
QUOTE (anthonyaccurate @ Jun 7 2013, 10:10 PM) *
not to be that dude, but its 'conceited', not 'conceded' attitude.

Thanks...I caught that a few days ago but didn't bother to change it.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 6 2013, 05:51 PM) *
You don't think his promotional company (J Prince) is fucking him in the long run?


Yes to some degree but then we're talking J Prince, this dude has lowballed everybody and should stick to the rap game. In the end though unless Ward bevomes a big puncher or big douche scum talking blabbermouth ala Tyson-esque then he will never be on that upper echelon ppv level.

Controversy sells. KO artists sells but quite, humble fighters without ko power don't.
Junior80
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 7 2013, 06:47 PM) *
LMAO! Yeah right, he only fights people in lower divisions. he is 41-0 and that last win was the FIRST fight he had agaisnt a fighter in his weight class.

The only reason I say this is because alveraz is 23 has a big frame and is already weighing in as high as 171 on fight night, when he fills out in 2-3 more years a ward fight could make perfect sense given they both remain Heading in a positive direction , I mean if Floyd came for where he is and is now fighting at 154 why wouldn't it be possible for alveraz and ward to meet?
Dolimite
QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 8 2013, 03:20 PM) *
The only reason I say this is because alveraz is 23 has a big frame and is already weighing in as high as 171 on fight night, when he fills out in 2-3 more years a ward fight could make perfect sense given they both remain Heading in a positive direction , I mean if Floyd came for where he is and is now fighting at 154 why wouldn't it be possible for alveraz and ward to meet?

Its possible that they could meet you are right but it will not happen. Ward is a HBO fighter for one and again Golden Boy can't have their golden goose take too many Ls. Marketability will go down, he needs to clean his division out and then move up.
Junior80
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 8 2013, 08:08 PM) *
Its possible that they could meet you are right but it will not happen. Ward is a HBO fighter for one and again Golden Boy can't have their golden goose take too many Ls. Marketability will go down, he needs to clean his division out and then move up.

For sure
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 7 2013, 10:43 AM) *
I really don't know why everyones pushing GGG onto Ward, Wards a lot bigger than him. I don't mean in size either


golovkin and dirrell fought at 165 in the amateurs....

ward could have made 165 but chose to fight at 178 because he felt more comfortable at 168. that extra day they get in the pros helps golovkin weigh 160. he himself says he can fight at 168 and would like the opportunity to fight ward.
Junior80
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 10 2013, 03:01 PM) *
golovkin and dirrell fought at 165 in the amateurs....

ward could have made 165 but chose to fight at 178 because he felt more comfortable at 168. that extra day they get in the pros helps golovkin weigh 160. he himself says he can fight at 168 and would like the opportunity to fight ward.

Ward would outclass ggg easily, I can't think of anyone who can take ward to war
daprofessor
QUOTE (Junior80 @ Jun 11 2013, 07:49 PM) *
Ward would outclass ggg easily, I can't think of anyone who can take ward to war


i agree...but both would be each others best opponent to date. i'm hoping ggg unifies before he moves up. i'd still like to see ward/ggg play out.

in the meantime i believe adonis just earned himself a shot at ward with that impressive ko.
Junior80
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 11 2013, 07:53 PM) *
i agree...but both would be each others best opponent to date. i'm hoping ggg unifies before he moves up. i'd still like to see ward/ggg play out.

in the meantime i believe adonis just earned himself a shot at ward with that impressive ko.

It was impressive , I firmly believe that ward ruined Dawson , it almost looked to me like ward could KO Dawson earlier but instead he tortured him so badly that he quit.
mgrover
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 10 2013, 08:01 PM) *
golovkin and dirrell fought at 165 in the amateurs....

ward could have made 165 but chose to fight at 178 because he felt more comfortable at 168. that extra day they get in the pros helps golovkin weigh 160. he himself says he can fight at 168 and would like the opportunity to fight ward.


I didn't mean in size, I mean't in star power.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 12 2013, 05:26 PM) *
I didn't mean in size, I mean't in star power.


missed that part of your post. oops. unsure.gif

i think ggg is a win or two from ppl calling for that fight. hell...i'm surprised no one is calling for ward/stevenson.
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 12 2013, 02:51 PM) *
missed that part of your post. oops. unsure.gif

i think ggg is a win or two from ppl calling for that fight. hell...i'm surprised no one is calling for ward/stevenson.

Talks are actually in place. The only problem is Stevenson ain't a household name and Ward is looking to put famous faces on his wall not contenders.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 12 2013, 05:38 PM) *
Talks are actually in place. The only problem is Stevenson ain't a household name and Ward is looking to put famous faces on his wall not contenders.


Where'd you hear that?
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 12 2013, 03:48 PM) *
Where'd you hear that?

his manager said it on boxing scene after the fight...
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 12 2013, 05:51 PM) *
his manager said it on boxing scene after the fight...


I'll take the old wait and see approach to that one. Stevenson is good. Though I think Ward will best him if they glove up
Junior80
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 13 2013, 07:53 PM) *
I'll take the old wait and see approach to that one. Stevenson is good. Though I think Ward will best him if they glove up

Andre ward is the second best boxer in the world right now , only second to mayweather...
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