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daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 22 2013, 11:59 PM) *
If your talking about what looked like a kick yes paulie caused that. The other shit was faul


paulie didn't cause the kick but him grabbing broners leg was illegal too. the fouls wiped out on that one.
daprofessor
QUOTE (MAHDI @ Jun 23 2013, 12:06 AM) *
take Broner off the pound for pound list


it's mythical anyway...i say keep him there. laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 23 2013, 12:08 AM) *
This fight is close to a draw. Broner has not done anything to really separate himself from paulie and he isn't hurting him either.


i scored it a draw.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 23 2013, 12:27 AM) *
I had it 7 rounds to 5 for Paulie but I have to tip my hat to Malinaggi. He really gave a valiant effort out there. I was impressed. You could see Floyd after a while shaking his head like "they can call this kid the next me all they want. I wouldn't be getting hit by those punches."

Adrian is super talented, but he'd better learn to be a better professional inside and outside the ring. He has far too many lapses in fight. And he doesn't show his opponents enough respect in our out the ring. Respect the sport.


this...

plus he still has a lot to learn. if he's trying to be the next floyd....he is several levels below what floyd was at this age.
daprofessor
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 23 2013, 01:02 AM) *
LOL....I try to be, but tbh, I read what is already said on the board and it's so spot on, wtf would I re-invent the wheel. You MFs would clown the shit outta me for stating what's been stated 6 x previously. How do I know? I've read it and damn near pissed myself from laughter. You, MrChitown and daprofessor come to immediately. Nuh-uh....no thank you sir. Ha Ha Ha.


laugh.gif naw man...it ain't like that. it's all in fun.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Jun 23 2013, 01:21 AM) *
Shoutout to the blackhawks


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daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 23 2013, 03:34 AM) *
The first fight was entertaining. That little Mexican dude had a ton of heart and courage. I had it 116-112, Bika. Nice little scrap. Bad that Ward's title was taken from him though. Good fight, but should not have been for a world title.

I think Banks-Mitchell II should be investigated for such a terrible non-effort by both. I fast-forwarded after the 7th round to the decision. That was awful! Why did Farhood give a 10-8 round in the 3rd?

I hate Broner because he's trying so hard to be like Mayweather, but is such a loser. I wanted Paulie to win, because I could not stand how fucking Jim Lamply used to pom-pom Broner as the "Second Coming." But sadly, Adrien won this fight fair and square. I had it 116-112. I could accept a 115-113 card for Broner, but no closer than that. The 115-113 Malinaggi card was insane. The 117-111 Broner card WAS too wide, but at least that judge voted for the right fighter. Broner took too many of the later rounds, after Paulie started out very well to pull out a close decision.

What was Paulie screaming to Adiran about after the fight?

Jack


i scored the bout a draw but could see it going 7-5 for either guy...maybe 8-4 for broner at the most....9-3 was off.

broner made a comment at the end of the fight. "i took his title and his girl." and paulie flipped saying she was just a side piece. (not his main girl)
daprofessor
QUOTE (xxxxxx @ Jun 23 2013, 04:36 AM) *
It looked like a very competitive fight to me. I had Broner winning 7-5, but could make a case for 6-6. And Broner shoulda been deducted a point on 2 different occasions for foul play.


he was using his elbows the whole fight. i think his elbows did more damage than the actual punches.
daprofessor
QUOTE (MaxPayne @ Jun 23 2013, 05:04 AM) *
I think the most fair score is right around 115-113 for Adrien Broner.

Broner looked sharp in spots, as Paulie said, but I'd like to see a lot more activity from him, regardless of whether it's offensive or defensive. If he's moving around the ring at angles, then that opens up counterpunching opportunities. I didn't exactly see much of that.

I also don't want to hear any of the, "well he ain't in there with somebody whose power he respects." That's that stupid shit dumbass motherfuckers say. Once again, if you move and make the guy miss, that opens up massive counters. Watch Mike Tyson. Some of his most spectacular knockouts come off of counters.

Anyways, let's also not like Paulie ain't shit. Paulie has a lot of experience, great technique and has been in there with excellent opposition. There should be no surprise from anyone that he made a real fight of it. A lot of the 7 rounds to 5 for AB comes from the fact that Paulie is a lot better than people want to give him credit for.

Lastly, Jim Gray is a motherless piece of shit and I hope something horrible happens to him every single day.


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daprofessor
QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jun 23 2013, 06:01 AM) *
Why was it a terrible performance? This is his first fight against a skilled opponent. We can't just shot on Broner for not blowing Paulie out, look at his résumé.


paulie has legit losses to cotto, hatton and khan who all proved to be exceptional fighters. cotto beat him the worse imo and even though he went the distance, he got a lot taken out of him in that fight. the hatton fight was stopped by buddy mcgirt. i thought it was premature...but paulie looked like pure shit in that fight. the khan fight was an ass whoopin. all three were bad styles for him to face. broners win over paulie doesn't measure up to any of those and he fought a 32yr old paulie. he should have been much more impressive against him when you consider paulie's got some miles on him. he did not win impressively at all imo.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 23 2013, 09:25 AM) *
The Bias on this board is unbelievable..



^^^^^ SO I guess Hotsauce can give love to a bitch ass team and nothing gets said? That's cool.

Broner is as classless as they come. He had an average fight and won. All that yelling while he was hitting reminded me of Devon Alexander. Watching those two fight give me a headache. All that screaming is for nothing. Broner's power did not carry, those shots he was hitting Paulie with was flush on and didn't even shake him. He better drop down back to 130 . Amazing that he won the fight but lost a lot of respect of fans and pundits with his classless behavior. They need to wheel this kid in and really have a talk with him. Say what you will about Floyd but after every fight he gave props to his opponent. He respects the game. Broner is going to get dropped I promise you... I lost a lot of respect for Broner last night. and LET'S GO HEAT!



What did Jim Gray do? Man that is harsh.

I had it 7-5 across the board. I do not know where in the hell that 117-111 score even came from. Sad really. Broner is still a classless piece of ratchet shit. French Montana is LAME... he must be from Chicago.


take it back! laugh.gif that's cold.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jun 23 2013, 12:01 PM) *
Jim Gray kind of irked me last night too. He's a little too emotional in his interviews. Sometimes, he asks the questions I wanna hear that nobody else is willing to do. Other times, he kind of crosses the line and doesn't let the fighters explain themselves. Last night was the latter. I don't think Paulie was saying the fight was fixed. I think he was complaining about the 117-110 scorecard.

I also agree that we shouldn't take credit away from Paulie for making it a fight. He's not a bum. He just has no power. IMO he still has one of the best jabs in boxing. He's still a student of the game with actual boxing skill. He's not just your run of the mill guy off the street with punching power being marketed as a star.

Also, I know I'm late, but Johnathan Banks performance had to be one of the worst, most uninspired performances I've ever seen. Anytime he decided to punch, he had Mitchell in trouble. Problem is, he only decided to do so in maybe 3 rounds. I never saw much in Banks to begin with but damn. Don't waste my time dude. It was like he decided, "Mitchell is the star here. I'm just cool with beating him. Sorry for winning. I won't even do it again." Maybe I'm overreacting but the performance, his apathetic body language, his reaction to the scorecards, his trainer's perplexed pleas to see ANYTHING out of him all remind me of another former heavyweight....Oliver McCall.


very disappointing.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 23 2013, 03:24 PM) *
I think Banks-Mitchell should be investigated for non-effort. It was like Banks didn't care, and Mitchell didn't care all that much either. This was like watching hypothetically, a Bonecrusher Smith-Tony Tubbs snoozefest. Please Showtime, or any other network, don't put these guys on EVER AGAIN! That shit was reprehensible. Sparring sessions are more exciting than that POS!

Paulie, Haymon's fighter got the nod because you started off very well, but Broner took too many of later rounds for a close win. If you would have fought the later rounds like most of the early rounds you might have won.

Jack


in the case of the banks/mitchell fight....i think both guys have very questionable chins and i did see some adjustment from mitchell this time out. it's like what teddy atlas talks about with the 'silent agreement.' if you don't him me...i won't hit you and banks was content with just finishing. mitchell wanted it just a little more.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jun 23 2013, 03:30 PM) *
Props to DaProfessor for predicting the Broner fight exactly how it happened, I'm impressed.

I dont agree with the last scorecard of 117-110, I would have been happy with Paulie pulling an upset or draw but Broner definitely did lose his luster. He stood right in front of a feather fist and couldnt put him down imagine when someone who actually has power is hitting him all night, I really dont see how he can be so cocky after that performance. I can see him getting knocked out very soon. I don't even like the comparisons to Mayweather anymore, i wouldn't wanna disrespect him like that. Mayweather is leagues above Broner.

The Mitchell/Banks fight being so boring is what made the main event more appealing and Paulie was the most effective fighter of the night, only if he put his punches together better to get clean shots through his guard he would have been fine.


thanks! smile.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (BigFightFan @ Jun 23 2013, 08:04 PM) *
What about the Oscar DeLahoya fight, Zab Judah, and Castillo? My point is Paulie's movement, speed, and skill will go the distance against most if not all. If u think Floyd will stop malignaggi u are crazy


i think floyd could stop malignaggi. he has waaaay more in his arsenal and would shut paulie down. broner does a very limited impersonation of mayweather...and that's where it ends. he doesn't have the brain, the discipline, the ability...the intelligence. he is being showered for his potential...but honestly, he just showed that his potential is very limited in comparison to floyd. make no mistake about it....broner is no floyd. he would do himself a service by admitting that to himself immediately and just focus on being the best he can be.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 23 2013, 09:30 PM) *
Floyd would Gatti Paulie let's be real. With the exception of Castillo I, Floyd dominated the other two. Judah won the first 3 rounds and it was all down hill from there. Oscar had no idea what to do.


floyd had a bad shoulder against castillo 1. he shut him out in the rematch.

floyd was on his way to stopping judah until judah saved himself by fouling floyd.

floyd carried dlh imo in hopes of getting a rematch for another big pay day.

i agree...floyd would gatti paulie.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 23 2013, 09:37 PM) *
I had Mayweather-Delahoya close, but clear for Floyd. To me it looked more like a tactical business meeting than a fight. Same with Hopkins-Delahoya.

Jack


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Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 04:40 PM) *
floyd had a bad shoulder against castillo 1. he shut him out in the rematch.

floyd was on his way to stopping judah until judah saved himself by fouling floyd.

floyd carried dlh imo in hopes of getting a rematch for another big pay day.

i agree...floyd would gatti paulie.

Thank you Professor. That's what I am saying!
daprofessor
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 24 2013, 07:26 AM) *
He did counter Paulie on occasion...just not consistently. I dunno, you'd think with all these knowledgeable fans, we'd know, you don't judge a guy, jumping up two weight classes and fighting a skilled veteran, off his first fight in said new weight class...win or lose.

Riddle me this Batman, had he blown out Paulie, do you think that would've silenced the naysayers? I mean, do you really think NO ONE on this board would have thrown out the "wait 'til he fights someone w/ power" line? I mean, it's already been thrown out. IMO, Broner underestimated Paulie, than he has overestimated his abilities. I mean, w/ all that "couples therapy" pitty pat and hugging Paulie did, he landed 25% of his total punches and still was outlanded in total punches (despite throwing FOUR times as many jabs as AB..467 to 120). Defensively, I thought AB pretty much neutralized everything Paulie wanted to do. Now, I'll contend, he's got some work to do, but hey, who doesn't?


so you thought broner won 9-3? adrian gave away the first 3-4 rounds in my book. he didn't find that counter right hand consistantly until mid fight and it was there for him since the beginning. over the next 8....you didn't give paulie a single round?

ok...let's look at the scoring criteria...

clean punching

effective aggression

ring generalship

defense

with that in mind...there were several missed punches by both guys. paulie was landing shots when he threw to broners body in combination (pitty pat or not) and those combinations did keep broner from coming forward in spots. is that not ring generalship? was broners inching forward through out effective aggression? he did land the occasional big shot on paulie...but paulie was also rolling with more than a few of those big punches. a lot of that is subjective. punch stats are b.s. and they don't tell the story of each round which is how fights are judged.

of course you judge a guy jumping up two weight classes off of his first fight. accomplishing a feat that has only been done by a small hand full of boxers in history is an amazing thing. does his measure up to the others? no. but at the end of the day...a win is a win. all the other guys who did it didn't stay on top long after accomplishing it. imo, broner would be better suited at a lower weight. i don't know that it's going to get any better for him at this weight with all of the competition out there. he is not the complete package and it's clear he isn't the type to rise to the occasion. i think he is pretty much all that he is going to be at this point. they really need to match him carefully to keep the party going. i think there are a few guys out there who have the tools and see that he is very beatable.

what i see in broner is a guy who is getting high praise for being like floyd without having accomplished a fraction of what floyd has accomplished. you see it all the time in all walks of life. ppl are always looking for the next so and so...in hopes of prolonging the enjoyment/entertainment they get from that particular star. i see flashes of brilliance from him....minus the consistency of floyd. floyd's character/persona has never been something i was fond of so it pretty much goes without saying that broners lack of character/persona sinks to even lower levels. without the accomplishments of floyd, who is truly brilliant, i can't see broner being the star everyone is hoping for. the copy is never as good as the original.

daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 24 2013, 06:05 PM) *
The 12-1 odds favoring Broner were ridiculous! What I learned from this card

Those 12-1 odds were expected as the media borrowed Jim Lamply's left-over pom-poms, which thankfully, Showtime hasn't started cheering with yet. But the media thought Broner was the second coming. Malinaggi can make good fighters look bad. My only slight critique I don't think Malinaggi deserved the 115-113 card favoring him. This was a 115-113 to 116-112 (which I had) Broner type of win. I have learned that Paulie can still be competitive, that Broner has some good skills, but is far from great, (sorry Lamps) and I never want to see Mitchell or Banks "non-fight" ever again!

I read some comments that the Bika fight was not good. Disagree strongly! I thought that last couple of rounds were great! Especially the 12th! The bullshit was that this should not have been for a world title.

Jack


pretty accurate. i scored the fight a draw. i don't think 7-5 either way is impossible. i have to watch the whole bika fight. i only caught the last round.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 24 2013, 06:15 PM) *
Now...if only I could get back around to watching this card without a drink in my hand, I could make an educated assessment (unlike the garbage that I posted Saturday night). It seems to be the hardest thing to do, right about now.


Looks like I'm not the only one hitting the sauce, lol. Wasn't Floyd supposed to "Gatti" Cotto last year? Paulie should be given waaaay more respect than this. I know you're a Floyd fan, but at least be a fan with good reasoning. If Broner


styles make fights. paulie isn't the pressure fighter cotto is...he doesn't have the bricks in his gloves that cotto has either. i agree with dolo...he gets gatti'd.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Jun 24 2013, 06:19 PM) *
But would he really? Paulie isn't stupid enough to get that badly beaten up, I wouldn't say he wins, or even that its amazingly close, but I think Paulie will have his moments.


the difference between floyd and broner....floyd has waaay more tools/intelligence at his disposal. broner only had one way and didn't adjust. floyd will take things away consistently/systematically...and when he walks you down, he knows how to lead. floyd throws to the body consistently. he wouldn't have missed as much as broner did. he would freeze paulie with a good shot and best believe the follow up shots would all land.
daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 24 2013, 07:48 PM) *
Floyd is suppose to gatti everyone... Until he doesn't


i knew he wouldn't gatti cotto.

i know he'll gatti pac.

i know he'll gatti malignaggi.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Jun 23 2013, 08:10 PM) *
Shoutout to the miami heat

No man...it's the Miami Heat(s)

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QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 24 2013, 07:26 PM) *
I actually thought Floyd would get knocked down by Cotto. I have all the respect for Cotto. I actually the fight was way closer than those whack ass score cards. I had it 7-5 for Mayweather. Cotto did everything possible to win that fight.

Paulie is a great fighter no doubt, but I am looking at how Mayweather would cut the ring off and counter everything Paulie would throw at him. Broner stood in front of him and got hit, which made no since to me. I thought Broner would display all facets of his skill set. I actually picked Paulie to win this fight, go back in look. I haven't been drinking actually, the summer and alcohol for me is a very bad combination. Too many Cali girls walking around half naked and looking good, liquor only worsen this!

I remember your prediction for the Paulie fight, and you weren't around for the whole "Cotto is gonna get Gatti'd on May 5th" rebuttal, so no need to explain that part. Lol. I still think that Paulie is smart enough to use movement and not get embarrassed.

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 09:31 PM) *
styles make fights. paulie isn't the pressure fighter cotto is...he doesn't have the bricks in his gloves that cotto has either. i agree with dolo...he gets gatti'd.

If Broner (who most deem "the more offensive Mayweather") couldn't do it, then I wouldn't count on Floyd fighting like he did in the Gatti fight, which was a good 8 years ago. If he didn't do it to Hatton, whom he froze with most of his shots, and was two years removed from that Gatti performance, then I dont think he could pull it off against a dude who has no power and has NOTHING else to lean on, other than his movement, jab, and punch volume.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 07:46 PM) *
imo, paulie got some glow off of winning the title. the diaz fights were the beginning of his rebirth and he's had a second life in boxing so to speak. i thought most wrote him off after the khan loss...but here he is hanging with one of the young up-and-comers. his stock did not go down in this fight and he will get a few more decent pay days. at the end of the day.....paulie is an over achiever in boxing.


^^^^THIS. Well-deserved, as well.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 09:13 PM) *
so you thought broner won 9-3? adrian gave away the first 3-4 rounds in my book. he didn't find that counter right hand consistantly until mid fight and it was there for him since the beginning. over the next 8....you didn't give paulie a single round?

ok...let's look at the scoring criteria...

clean punching

effective aggression

ring generalship

defense

with that in mind...there were several missed punches by both guys. paulie was landing shots when he threw to broners body in combination (pitty pat or not) and those combinations did keep broner from coming forward in spots. is that not ring generalship? was broners inching forward through out effective aggression? he did land the occasional big shot on paulie...but paulie was also rolling with more than a few of those big punches. a lot of that is subjective. punch stats are b.s. and they don't tell the story of each round which is how fights are judged.

of course you judge a guy jumping up two weight classes off of his first fight. accomplishing a feat that has only been done by a small hand full of boxers in history is an amazing thing. does his measure up to the others? no. but at the end of the day...a win is a win. all the other guys who did it didn't stay on top long after accomplishing it. imo, broner would be better suited at a lower weight. i don't know that it's going to get any better for him at this weight with all of the competition out there. he is not the complete package and it's clear he isn't the type to rise to the occasion. i think he is pretty much all that he is going to be at this point. they really need to match him carefully to keep the party going. i think there are a few guys out there who have the tools and see that he is very beatable.

what i see in broner is a guy who is getting high praise for being like floyd without having accomplished a fraction of what floyd has accomplished. you see it all the time in all walks of life. ppl are always looking for the next so and so...in hopes of prolonging the enjoyment/entertainment they get from that particular star. i see flashes of brilliance from him....minus the consistency of floyd. floyd's character/persona has never been something i was fond of so it pretty much goes without saying that broners lack of character/persona sinks to even lower levels. without the accomplishments of floyd, who is truly brilliant, i can't see broner being the star everyone is hoping for. the copy is never as good as the original.


I actually had it 8-4 and even after 4.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 07:40 PM) *
floyd had a bad shoulder against castillo 1. he shut him out in the rematch.

floyd was on his way to stopping judah until judah saved himself by fouling floyd.

floyd carried dlh imo in hopes of getting a rematch for another big pay day.

i agree...floyd would gatti paulie.


LOL! I had a very controversial draw in the Mayweather-Castillo II fight. No way a shut out for Floyd. I was very pro-Castillo as I thought the first fight was a robbery and that Castillo won. The second fight, neither did anything all that great. Judges scores and press-row scores ranged from 115-113 for Floyd to 117-111 for Floyd. No shutout cards. A true shut-out Mayweather fight was Mayweather-N'dou or Mayweather-Soso, or with the exception of round 2, Mayweather-Mosley. Mayweather-Castillo II does not fit that pattern.

For some odd reason, Harold and I had almost identical cards for Mayweather-Castillo II. He had it 115-113 for Floyd, and I had it 114-114 giving the 4th round to Castillo. Harold gave it to Floyd. The rematch was very boring compared to the first fight.

I agree with everything else Professor said.

Jack
checkleft
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 24 2013, 09:23 PM) *
If Broner (who most deem "the more offensive Mayweather") couldn't do it, then I wouldn't count on Floyd fighting like he did in the Gatti fight, which was a good 8 years ago. If he didn't do it to Hatton, whom he froze with most of his shots, and was two years removed from that Gatti performance, then I dont think he could pull it off against a dude who has no power and has NOTHING else to lean on, other than his movement, jab, and punch volume.

I agree. Plus Floyd doesn't fight like how he did in gatti fight anymore

I could see him doing a few things different from broner that could possibly hurt/stun/ or drop paulie. Working behind a high guard and also using his reach (which broner didn't have).
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 24 2013, 08:31 PM) *
styles make fights. paulie isn't the pressure fighter cotto is...he doesn't have the bricks in his gloves that cotto has either. i agree with dolo...he gets gatti'd.


Shutup Professor.....Band Camp!!!! laugh.gif
mrchitown
Broner's defense will need some improvement if he's going to campaign at welter or even at junior welter, if Paulie had just a little bit more pop on his punches we would be talking differently about this fight. I wasn't really impressed with Broner this fight, though I think he won but I was actually more impressed in what Malignaggi did
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 24 2013, 10:53 PM) *
Broner's defense will need some improvement if he's going to campaign at welter or even at junior welter, if Paulie had just a little bit more pop on his punches we would be talking differently about this fight. I wasn't really impressed with Broner this fight, though I think he won but I was actually more impressed in what Malignaggi did

I totally agree with you Chi. Broner talked the entire fucking match! I am like dude, fight. Instead of trying to look cute and flashy just fight. All those acrobatic moves, I am like dude you are not Gabby Douglas. Just fight. He displayed very little skill in technique. Again, he relied heavily on his talent. This kid is going to get smoked if he keeps fucking around. Like I said before, he has the talent, but the discipline and dedication to the sport, I do not see.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 25 2013, 10:00 AM) *
I totally agree with you Chi. Broner talked the entire fucking match! I am like dude, fight. Instead of trying to look cute and flashy just fight. All those acrobatic moves, I am like dude you are not Gabby Douglas. Just fight. He displayed very little skill in technique. Again, he relied heavily on his talent. This kid is going to get smoked if he keeps fucking around. Like I said before, he has the talent, but the discipline and dedication to the sport, I do not see.


The key to longevity for Broner will be better footwork and drastic improvement on defense. He has a top notch trainer in Stafford and I'm sure he'll do his best to improve Adrien every time out hut its up to Adrien to make the commitment to those changes and improvements. He gets hit too much, when he goes up against someone with power or a boxer puncher like Danny Garcia, he may struggle and quite possibly lose. I'd like to see him fight maidana because that's a fight he could lose and if he won that would do wonders for him

As for all that talking, he needs to slow it down. One knock I really have against him is that he over does it. Nothing wrong with trash talk nothing wrong with saying something every now and then in there to mess with your opponent a little bit but he was doing it the entire night. Stop telling him he can't hit you when I clearly saw him hitting you
Cshel86
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jun 25 2013, 01:00 AM) *
I agree. Plus Floyd doesn't fight like how he did in gatti fight anymore

I could see him doing a few things different from broner that could possibly hurt/stun/ or drop paulie. Working behind a high guard and also using his reach (which broner didn't have).

Man I wish Floyd would put on one of those Gatti performances again, I'd be the first to call him on his BS, and insist on year round testing for him. Oh wait...he's the highest paid fighter, so no way in hell anyway could demand for him to do year round testing. Sucks...

Broner seemed to think waaaay too highly of himself, going into the Paulie fight, and it showed in his performance. He landed some good shots, but some his offense and flashiness was blunted by an experienced fighter that he promised to knock out. For the odds to be that high, Broner disappointed in that sense.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jun 25 2013, 11:00 AM) *
Man I wish Floyd would put on one of those Gatti performances again, I'd be the first to call him on his BS, and insist on year round testing for him. Oh wait...he's the highest paid fighter, so no way in hell anyway could demand for him to do year round testing. Sucks...

Broner seemed to think waaaay too highly of himself, going into the Paulie fight, and it showed in his performance. He landed some good shots, but some his offense and flashiness was blunted by an experienced fighter that he promised to knock out. For the odds to be that high, Broner disappointed in that sense.

Broner won this fight but he actually lost in a sense. His "Big Brother" even said he should of performed better. Ouch. He is so damn immature. Its not even funny or entertaining.
daprofessor
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Jun 24 2013, 10:27 PM) *
I actually had it 8-4 and even after 4.


ok. i'll have to watch it again. i usually do.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Jun 25 2013, 12:35 AM) *
LOL! I had a very controversial draw in the Mayweather-Castillo II fight. No way a shut out for Floyd. I was very pro-Castillo as I thought the first fight was a robbery and that Castillo won. The second fight, neither did anything all that great. Judges scores and press-row scores ranged from 115-113 for Floyd to 117-111 for Floyd. No shutout cards. A true shut-out Mayweather fight was Mayweather-N'dou or Mayweather-Soso, or with the exception of round 2, Mayweather-Mosley. Mayweather-Castillo II does not fit that pattern.

For some odd reason, Harold and I had almost identical cards for Mayweather-Castillo II. He had it 115-113 for Floyd, and I had it 114-114 giving the 4th round to Castillo. Harold gave it to Floyd. The rematch was very boring compared to the first fight.

I agree with everything else Professor said.

Jack


maybe my memory if failing me. i seem to recall it being fairly easy without much from castillo. i actually thought castillo beat him in a close one the first time.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 25 2013, 02:51 AM) *
Shutup Professor.....Band Camp!!!! laugh.gif


now u reppin them midgets!? laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 25 2013, 02:53 AM) *
Broner's defense will need some improvement if he's going to campaign at welter or even at junior welter, if Paulie had just a little bit more pop on his punches we would be talking differently about this fight. I wasn't really impressed with Broner this fight, though I think he won but I was actually more impressed in what Malignaggi did


well....he brought the audience....showtime said 1.2 mil viewers. i guess ppl did have fight parties for this one. he needs to pick the right opponent next time to keep this going. one false move and he's done.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 25 2013, 02:23 PM) *
Broner won this fight but he actually lost in a sense. His "Big Brother" even said he should of performed better. Ouch. He is so damn immature. Its not even funny or entertaining.


like a little kid that says something funny and gets a laugh out of the adults...but no, that's not enough. he wants more laughter so he struggles to find the next laugh. it's annoying to say the least.
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 25 2013, 07:29 PM) *
now u reppin them midgets!? laugh.gif


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mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 25 2013, 07:31 PM) *
well....he brought the audience....showtime said 1.2 mil viewers. i guess ppl did have fight parties for this one. he needs to pick the right opponent next time to keep this going. one false move and he's done.


I told you. He pulls in the viewers but I'd like to see how he fares in a ppv. You know what David Ruffin said, he's the voice and you know they want the voices laugh.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jun 25 2013, 10:11 PM) *
I told you. He pulls in the viewers but I'd like to see how he fares in a ppv. You know what David Ruffin said, he's the voice and you know they want the voices laugh.gif


that's good viewership...but let's be real. after that performance he better have the right dancing partner or they(the numbers) will drop. it's all about the repeat customer.

david ruffin? laugh.gif that's my music.
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jun 26 2013, 02:11 PM) *
that's good viewership...but let's be real. after that performance he better have the right dancing partner or they(the numbers) will drop. it's all about the repeat customer.

david ruffin? laugh.gif that's my music.

Keep on Truckin!
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jun 26 2013, 06:14 PM) *
Keep on Truckin!


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