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Dolimite
It is a known fact that when it comes to boxing, fans usually cheer on the lines of what two ethnic groups are fighting. If the fighter one fighter is of Mexican descent and the other fight is Asian, the Mexican fans will cheer for the Mexican boxer and the Asian fans will cheer for the Asian boxer. I find this interesting because in no other sport is this more highlighted. The reason why Alvarez is so popular is because of his ethnicity. The Majority of Mexicans are cheering for him because he is Mexican. Even Mexican fighters who are cheering on Canelo say the reason why is because he is Mexican.

The same when a Puerto Rican fights anyone, they cheer for him because of his ethnicity. Does this help or hurt boxing. Should fans always be blinded by the ethnicity of the fighter or should they appreciate the fighter for their skills versus skin color? Or does the color line bring in more bucks? If Saul was fighting another Mexican fighter would his fight coming up be more popular or would it be an average sell? Is it the fact that Saul is facing a black fighter Saul's fans are out in full force (I know Mayweather brings another level of hype but work with me)? Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd and his fight with Trinidad was highly rated. A Mexican American fighting a African American and a Puerto Rican.

How do you yawl feel about cheering for a fighter just because they are the same ethnicity?
HyyerBlaze
Its just like the olympics...people like to cheer for their countrymen, I dont see anything wrong with that.

I think american boxers should brace being from the USA more than they usually do....like wearing USA trunks and stuff of that nature.

Apollo Creed status haha
mgrover
Am from Iraq so its kinda hard to cheer on any of my countrymen, but personally I don't see it as a massive issue for people to support boxers because of where there from. It's more of an issue when people take it too far vs the other fighters fans. Thats usually when the racism kicks off
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Jul 25 2013, 01:45 PM) *
Am from Iraq so its kinda hard to cheer on any of my countrymen, but personally I don't see it as a massive issue for people to support boxers because of where there from. It's more of an issue when people take it too far vs the other fighters fans. Thats usually when the racism kicks off

They cant be worse than Philly fans. With hockey, they're the fuckin worse. They're crazy I tell ya! I've heard that soccer fans across the pond, are not to be played with either. Lol
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jul 25 2013, 12:43 PM) *
It is a known fact that when it comes to boxing, fans usually cheer on the lines of what two ethnic groups are fighting. If the fighter one fighter is of Mexican descent and the other fight is Asian, the Mexican fans will cheer for the Mexican boxer and the Asian fans will cheer for the Asian boxer. I find this interesting because in no other sport is this more highlighted. The reason why Alvarez is so popular is because of his ethnicity. The Majority of Mexicans are cheering for him because he is Mexican. Even Mexican fighters who are cheering on Canelo say the reason why is because he is Mexican.

The same when a Puerto Rican fights anyone, they cheer for him because of his ethnicity. Does this help or hurt boxing. Should fans always be blinded by the ethnicity of the fighter or should they appreciate the fighter for their skills versus skin color? Or does the color line bring in more bucks? If Saul was fighting another Mexican fighter would his fight coming up be more popular or would it be an average sell? Is it the fact that Saul is facing a black fighter Saul's fans are out in full force (I know Mayweather brings another level of hype but work with me)? Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd and his fight with Trinidad was highly rated. A Mexican American fighting a African American and a Puerto Rican.

How do you yawl feel about cheering for a fighter just because they are the same ethnicity?


before puerto ricans, blacks and mexicans it used to be irish, italians and jews. ethnicity has always played a part but i believe the true BOXING fans (and not the BOXER fans) don't cheer according to ethnic lines. i am of puerto rican and mexican decent...mixed with some african blood in there. i've never cheered on a fighter because of his ethnicity. i learned from an early age...it's about who is the better boxer. my first boxing hero was muhammad ali. the fighter that made me become a boxing fanatic was roberto duran. along the way i have enjoyed them all.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 25 2013, 11:02 AM) *
They cant be worse than Philly fans. With hockey, they're the fuckin worse. They're crazy I tell ya! I've heard that soccer fans across the pond, are not to be played with either. Lol

Philly fans are fucking terrible! Boston fans suck, Atlanta fans are obnoxious, and New York fans are mean! But English soccer fans just crazy!
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jul 25 2013, 03:32 PM) *
Philly fans are fucking terrible! Boston fans suck, Atlanta fans are obnoxious, and New York fans are mean! But English soccer fans just crazy!

Man I'll put Philly fans right up there with English soccer fans. They always go for broke, and are more than willing to exchange blows if you either talk bad about their team or if their team is losing. Lol
klonopinz
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 25 2013, 02:02 PM) *
They cant be worse than Philly fans. With hockey, they're the fuckin worse. They're crazy I tell ya! I've heard that soccer fans across the pond, are not to be played with either. Lol



everytime im at an eagles game when im walking through the parking lot drunk about to walk into the link, i spit on all the cars who have opposing team stickers, i mean straight loogies point blank. if you got a opposing jersey your getting shit on verbally at least, if not me throwing a water bottle at the back of your fuckin head. shit is real homie. dont fuckin play wit us
klonopinz
but about the question, i not only love to see a great white hope, but i also rep fighters who have my persona and share my swag, style w/e you wanna call it, they just emulate a sort of energy that you identify with. thats why i like floyd and duran so much. i also loved hagler, just loveed his tough ass smash through you attitude, and his blue collar style. Plus my old man worked with a drunk from brockton, and he would come down to visit us and tell me about hagler when he was coming up and it just made me love him from an early age.

I always enjoy seeing a great white player tho, not because i think about race superiority or anything, but beacue it makes me feel like ok, race has nothing to do with athletics, its all about drive and pashion and natural skill, and that can come in any color or shape, because there are so many diffeent sports where one particular race dominates, such as whites in hockey, blacks in basketball, etc etc, but i love to see tiger woods, or larry bird. or manny pacquiao, wich shows you that it has nothing to do with race, were alll jsut humans with two legs and two arms, and what one man can do another can do. that makes me feel good. i also love underdogs.
checkleft
I'm Mexican and other than marquez I don't like very many Mexican fighters... But I'm really into the sport so I guess its different for me or something
Jovi
Well under the clouds we are all but one family happy.gif

But before when it came to race I looked at the history of things me being Black and Puertorican, growing up and learning about slavery, all that craziness how most minorities were looked down upon as animals or even worse, and even the racism i still see now. When i was first exposed to sports especially combat sports I immediately would support the minority and think "Wow, look at us now". I would see Mayweather's total mastery of boxing, Ali how he was more than a boxer but truly a great man in and outside the ring, and now my dude Jon Jones taking over MMA. Minorities truly dedicated to their craft and showing how even though everything happened before we can still be strong, we have to learn from the past and carry ourselves the right way to actually be respected.

I would root for them because i can relate not only by skin color but to how they feel, what they say, how they fight and why they fight...Typical thoughts of a young man looking for the right path and right role models i guess.

Now because I also train I look at Boxing or MMA under the broad subject of Martial Arts, I just appreciate the skills and technique, the skill is in the beholder regardless of race, age, even gender........ Thanks to Kung fu movies i always thought asians were superior in all fighting styles. I'm still intimidated of the smallest asian dude just because you never know biggrin.gif
daprofessor
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 25 2013, 06:40 PM) *
Man I'll put Philly fans right up there with English soccer fans. They always go for broke, and are more than willing to exchange blows if you either talk bad about their team or if their team is losing. Lol


raiders and dodger fans are stabbing ppl.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Jovi @ Jul 25 2013, 08:40 PM) *
Well under the clouds we are all but one family happy.gif

But before when it came to race I looked at the history of things me being Black and Puertorican, growing up and learning about slavery, all that craziness how most minorities were looked down upon as animals or even worse, and even the racism i still see now. When i was first exposed to sports especially combat sports I immediately would support the minority and think "Wow, look at us now". I would see Mayweather's total mastery of boxing, Ali how he was more than a boxer but truly a great man in and outside the ring, and now my dude Jon Jones taking over MMA. Minorities truly dedicated to their craft and showing how even though everything happened before we can still be strong, we have to learn from the past and carry ourselves the right way to actually be respected.

I would root for them because i can relate not only by skin color but to how they feel, what they say, how they fight and why they fight...Typical thoughts of a young man looking for the right path and right role models i guess.

Now because I also train I look at Boxing or MMA under the broad subject of Martial Arts, I just appreciate the skills and technique, the skill is in the beholder regardless of race, age, even gender........ Thanks to Kung fu movies i always thought asians were superior in all fighting styles. I'm still intimidated of the smallest asian dude just because you never know biggrin.gif


that's the power of the media. laugh.gif
BrutUalBK
I'm no racist or bigot so really I have no problem with someone cheering for someone from their own country/representing their heritage, I don't find it racial but when someone begins to hurl racial epithets then there is a problem or when one starts to boo the other's national anthems or whatnot then that is racial on a nationalist level.
mrchitown
I don't see a problem with it, most people are prideful of their race and do that. As long as it doesn't cross the line and I've been to some fights where it's gotten pretty ridiculous. Me personally, you could be blue and I wouldn't give a damn, as long as the boxer is talented I'm going to root for them. The ones who I root for the most are the Mayweather's, the Tyson's and the Hopkins' like fighters not because I'm black but because they remind me of certain qualities that I have and certain things I can relate to. Plus they get a lot of unnecessary heat from ignorant fans so I try to balance it out and rally for them..but aint nothing wrong with a fan rooting for a fellow countrymen, I think it's pretty cool actually
klonopinz
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jul 25 2013, 10:26 PM) *
I don't see a problem with it, most people are prideful of their race and do that. As long as it doesn't cross the line and I've been to some fights where it's gotten pretty ridiculous. Me personally, you could be blue and I wouldn't give a damn, as long as the boxer is talented I'm going to root for them. The ones who I root for the most are the Mayweather's, the Tyson's and the Hopkins' like fighters not because I'm black but because they remind me of certain qualities that I have and certain things I can relate to. Plus they get a lot of unnecessary heat from ignorant fans so I try to balance it out and rally for them..but aint nothing wrong with a fan rooting for a fellow countrymen, I think it's pretty cool actually



i def agree, and am quite jealous of the unity between other nations when they back their guys so hard. like pacman and the philipines, mexico and chavez, etc etc, but i understand why america isnt like that with american athletes, its because of our past with immigration and racism and slavery, weve all been through so many ups and downs, and not jsut blacks, because their were slaves of all races, especially white europeans throughout the roman empire as well. and america is so divided we still have these lingering traces of hate and division in our roots. But each new generation is growing up together and becoming unified evermore, if that werent true, obama would have never made it to the white house. Were on a path to a new sense of country, and i think one day we will shit on the mexico's and the china's and back our guys hard like they should be backed.
Dolimite
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Jul 25 2013, 06:36 PM) *
I'm no racist or bigot so really I have no problem with someone cheering for someone from their own country/representing their heritage, I don't find it racial but when someone begins to hurl racial epithets then there is a problem or when one starts to boo the other's national anthems or whatnot then that is racial on a nationalist level.

I agree. You should of been at the Bradley and Ruslan fight. Those Mexican fans were ridiculous, I was like dude come on. That shit was pissing me off!

I cheer good boxers. Of course my favorite boxer is Mayweather. Love his work ethic and his hustle. But these other guys are really impressing me. I really like Mikey Garcia and the Charlo twins. And that Arias (Cuban cat under Mayweather promotions) is going to be a damn star!
mrchitown
QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 25 2013, 09:35 PM) *
i def agree, and am quite jealous of the unity between other nations when they back their guys so hard. like pacman and the philipines, mexico and chavez, etc etc, but i understand why america isnt like that with american athletes, its because of our past with immigration and racism and slavery, weve all been through so many ups and downs, and not jsut blacks, because their were slaves of all races, especially white europeans throughout the roman empire as well. and america is so divided we still have these lingering traces of hate and division in our roots. But each new generation is growing up together and becoming unified evermore, if that werent true, obama would have never made it to the white house. Were on a path to a new sense of country, and i think one day we will shit on the mexico's and the china's and back our guys hard like they should be backed.


That is so true, well said. It's too much history of divisiveness and hate here, I will say Americans show lots of promise in the face of adversity. Like when there are traumatic events we band together but we need to show more solidarity just cuz not just when it's some horrible happening. As it is right now, with that Zimmerman verdict, I can agree with Gaushea who said he'd never wear the USA colors again, some others have came out and said the same. But more and more as the years grow there's progress with race relations and us coming together as a whole. Boxing brings out some nasty habits in some people, I was seated in an area where these white guys were rooting for mayweather because Guerrero was Mexican, how stupid is that
Cshel86
QUOTE (klonopinz @ Jul 25 2013, 07:13 PM) *
everytime im at an eagles game when im walking through the parking lot drunk about to walk into the link, i spit on all the cars who have opposing team stickers, i mean straight loogies point blank. if you got a opposing jersey your getting shit on verbally at least, if not me throwing a water bottle at the back of your fuckin head. shit is real homie. dont fuckin play wit us

See what I mean???

Philly fans are raised by wolves, I tell ya!

QUOTE (checkleft @ Jul 25 2013, 08:32 PM) *
I'm Mexican and other than marquez I don't like very many Mexican fighters... But I'm really into the sport so I guess its different for me or something

Same here, well Im balck of course, but I enjoy watching Mexicans fight. I love the Mexican National Anthem. I love Mexican food. Looks like I need to have a talk with my mom, to be sure that Im not part Mexican...some serious questions need to be asked here! Lol

QUOTE (daprofessor @ Jul 25 2013, 08:58 PM) *
raiders and dodger fans are stabbing ppl.

Damn, I didn't know Dodgers fans were that bad. As for Raiders fans...no surprise there. Lol
007
I cheer for fighters that represent my culture, not my race. I like guys that are respectful, humble, and that honor their opponents. I am white, but I'll cheer on whatever fighter best reflects the qualities I admire.

Thug culture and white trash culture are basically the opposite of my culture, so I often find myself rooting for the guy outside of my own country, which I find troubling.


Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jul 26 2013, 08:39 AM) *
See what I mean???

Philly fans are raised by wolves, I tell ya!


Same here, well Im balck of course, but I enjoy watching Mexicans fight. I love the Mexican National Anthem. I love Mexican food. Looks like I need to have a talk with my mom, to be sure that Im not part Mexican...some serious questions need to be asked here! Lol


Damn, I didn't know Dodgers fans were that bad. As for Raiders fans...no surprise there. Lol


Where Dodger stadium is happens to be in the middle section of East L.A you have four different Mexican gangs and they all meet up at Dodger stadium to fight. It has nothing to do with the team. Now Oakland fans are just plain fucking crazy.

Philly fans are Nazis!!!!!!

Sorry bro, but Atlanta has some of the worse Mexican food in the world. Loca Luna's I damn near died, La Pedillas ( I think that is how you spell it) is gross, they take the flavoring out of their food, come to La and I will take to some of the best Mexican food places ever!
Franchize
I tend to root for dark skinned brothers every once in a while because I feel like they often get the shitty end of the stick marketing wise, but ultimately, I just like boxing. When I watch a bout in which I have no dog in the race, I typically side with the pure boxer. I'm tired of seeing bar room brawlers.
HyyerBlaze
I pull for whom ever I am betting on...race/country/style I could care less:)
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jul 25 2013, 11:35 PM) *
I agree. You should of been at the Bradley and Ruslan fight. Those Mexican fans were ridiculous, I was like dude come on. That shit was pissing me off!

I cheer good boxers. Of course my favorite boxer is Mayweather. Love his work ethic and his hustle. But these other guys are really impressing me. I really like Mikey Garcia and the Charlo twins. And that Arias (Cuban cat under Mayweather promotions) is going to be a damn star!


i've noticed this about some (not all) cali mexicans....there is a lot of self hate going on....and there is definitely racism towards blacks. someone told me it has everything to do with the prison system here. it's all segregated. it ain't that way back home. that shit is divided by gang affiliation.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Franchize @ Jul 26 2013, 01:24 PM) *
I tend to root for dark skinned brothers every once in a while because I feel like they often get the shitty end of the stick marketing wise, but ultimately, I just like boxing. When I watch a bout in which I have no dog in the race, I typically side with the pure boxer. I'm tired of seeing bar room brawlers.


"never liked your light skinned ass anyway!" -nino brown after he stabbed christopher williams in new jack city. laugh.gif
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