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MAHDI
Hopkins ruined him after hacking him up and stopping him in 7 rounds in 1998.. now he says hopkins is no match for Kovalev... calling him an old fighter... I understand Jackson supporting the Russian but come on John David.. Kovalev is what Hopkins has seen time and time again. Just another guy Hopkins beat who is envious of the old man's success
daprofessor
QUOTE (MAHDI @ Aug 27 2013, 10:46 AM) *
Hopkins ruined him after hacking him up and stopping him in 7 rounds in 1998.. now he says hopkins is no match for Kovalev... calling him an old fighter... I understand Jackson supporting the Russian but come on John David.. Kovalev is what Hopkins has seen time and time again. Just another guy Hopkins beat who is envious of the old man's success


has hopkins faced a guy like kovalev before? he seems a lot more calculating and subtle in his approach. he wasn't very hittable for cleverly either.
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 27 2013, 02:15 PM) *
has hopkins faced a guy like kovalev before? he seems a lot more calculating and subtle in his approach. he wasn't very hittable for cleverly either.


Who has Cleverly fought though? He was a paper champ just like Shumenov is

I'm not sold on Kovalev as some assassin, I want to see him and Stevenson scrap
mgrover
I think his work rate would present a problem for Hopkins. But that's about it.
BrutUalBK
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 27 2013, 02:15 PM) *
has hopkins faced a guy like kovalev before? he seems a lot more calculating and subtle in his approach. he wasn't very hittable for cleverly either.



Yes, in Kelly Pavlik. I didn't see anything special in Sergey, he doesn't come in at angles, his defense is limited and he isn't exactly fast either. Why even bother mentioning Cleverly, he wasn't very cleverly in the ring.

Hopkins would pick this dude apart and use his fancy footwork and defense to make dude look ordinary/BHop is too cleverly for Kovalev.
daprofessor
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Aug 27 2013, 03:24 PM) *
Who has Cleverly fought though? He was a paper champ just like Shumenov is

I'm not sold on Kovalev as some assassin, I want to see him and Stevenson scrap


true.

i'd give shumenov more credit because of his amateur background than cleverly....but u can't discount kovalev's amateur background.
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Aug 27 2013, 07:09 PM) *
true.

i'd give shumenov more credit because of his amateur background than cleverly....but u can't discount kovalev's amateur background.


He as in Shumenov has done squat as a pro. It's a lot of guys competing today that have seep amateur backgrounds but you'd never know it because of what they do in the pro ranks and Shumenov is one of them

Kovalev has put the division in notice but JDJ and his mouth may be his down fall. He needs to teach Kovalev some new tricks like angles if he's ever going to compete with Hopkins. As it stands now I think Hopkins wins and ruins another promising young guns career ala Pavlik style
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 27 2013, 04:25 PM) *
I think his work rate would present a problem for Hopkins. But that's about it.



That, plus the conviction that he throws with. Think Calzaghe with TNT in his hands. No slapping punches from this guy. he presents lots of problems for Hops. I dont think Hops takes this fight. If Hops wins a war with this guy, there will be a cost.
mgrover
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Aug 28 2013, 05:44 AM) *
That, plus the conviction that he throws with. Think Calzaghe with TNT in his hands. No slapping punches from this guy. he presents lots of problems for Hops. I dont think Hops takes this fight. If Hops wins a war with this guy, there will be a cost.


Problem is I think Calzaghe lost that fight. But at this age I see Hopkins having problems with fighters that have a high work rate, I mean look at the Dawson fight.
The Original MrFactor
QUOTE (mgrover @ Aug 28 2013, 04:44 AM) *
Problem is I think Calzaghe lost that fight. But at this age I see Hopkins having problems with fighters that have a high work rate, I mean look at the Dawson fight.

Yeah, I thought Hops beat Calzaghe. More about politics than anything. Dawsons workrate isnt really that high. I think Hops was just wary of the range of Dawson. Wasnt like Dawson was dropping 100 - 110 punches per round. He's very economic. I think a cat like Kovalev drops his load in the 1st 5 rounds. In that 1st 5 rounds Hops does get hit and MAYBE survives to get this youbngster into the late rounds.
daprofessor
QUOTE (BrutUalBK @ Aug 27 2013, 06:25 PM) *
Yes, in Kelly Pavlik. I didn't see anything special in Sergey, he doesn't come in at angles, his defense is limited and he isn't exactly fast either. Why even bother mentioning Cleverly, he wasn't very cleverly in the ring.

Hopkins would pick this dude apart and use his fancy footwork and defense to make dude look ordinary/BHop is too cleverly for Kovalev.


leave the jokes to the professionals. laugh.gif

i think this guy is better than pavlik. only time will tell.


hitman
QUOTE (MAHDI @ Aug 27 2013, 10:46 AM) *
Hopkins ruined him after hacking him up and stopping him in 7 rounds in 1998.. now he says hopkins is no match for Kovalev... calling him an old fighter... I understand Jackson supporting the Russian but come on John David.. Kovalev is what Hopkins has seen time and time again. Just another guy Hopkins beat who is envious of the old man's success


jackson was in hopkins corner for the tarver, winky and pavlik fights. their actually good friends.
MAHDI
QUOTE (hitman @ Aug 28 2013, 07:57 PM) *
jackson was in hopkins corner for the tarver, winky and pavlik fights. their actually good friends.





Exactly.. you would not think so based on the recent talk coming from Jackson.. business is business at the end of the day and I am sure having been beaten up by hop and working with him in key wins he feels has some insights on what it takes to beat him-- although he could not he has chance to live through his pupils...
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