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Dolimite
It seems everyday or even every second Oscar is telling anyone who will listen (which is everyone), that his Rooster is going to knock the shit out of Mayweather and the fight will not see round 9. Oscar is guaranteeing a Saul victory. Oscar is talking a lot this fight, more than any other fighter Mayweather has gone up against. He is now even claiming that he really beat Mayweather (coke is a hellva drug). It just seems De La Hoya is not just promoting this fight but he really is behind the notion that Canelo can truly KO Mayweather. he has already talked about a rematch when Canelo wins. Is Oscar making Saul's job that much harder?Is he adding more pressure by all his talk about the fight not going past the 9th round? If I was Oscar, one I would never dressed in fishnets, two, I would not be so adamant about saying my guy will def TKO a fighter that has never been knocked down. I am just curious how Saul internally is taking all this in. Yes he is saying the right things and he seems calm, but at the same time, he has to feel a bit of pressure coming from Golden Boy. If he loses badly then there will be no need for a rematch, and then where does he go from there? He can't fight B and C fighters anymore. There is so much riding on this fight. Personally, Oscar needs to tone it down. We all know how you feel. That extra pressure can be nerve racking. What do yawl think?
MAHDI
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 4 2013, 10:08 AM) *
It seems everyday or even every second Oscar is telling anyone who will listen (which is everyone), that his Rooster is going to knock the shit out of Mayweather and the fight will not see round 9. Oscar is guaranteeing a Saul victory. Oscar is talking a lot this fight, more than any other fighter Mayweather has gone up against. He is now even claiming that he really beat Mayweather (coke is a hellva drug). It just seems De La Hoya is not just promoting this fight but he really is behind the notion that Canelo can truly KO Mayweather. he has already talked about a rematch when Canelo wins. Is Oscar making Saul's job that much harder?Is he adding more pressure by all his talk about the fight not going past the 9th round? If I was Oscar, one I would never dressed in fishnets, two, I would not be so adamant about saying my guy will def TKO a fighter that has never been knocked down. I am just curious how Saul internally is taking all this in. Yes he is saying the right things and he seems calm, but at the same time, he has to feel a bit of pressure coming from Golden Boy. If he loses badly then there will be no need for a rematch, and then where does he go from there? He can't fight B and C fighters anymore. There is so much riding on this fight. Personally, Oscar needs to tone it down. We all know how you feel. That extra pressure can be nerve racking. What do yawl think?



DLH is gassing up Canelo... and yes he is adding pressure, pressure that will set in and impact his already suspect stamina. People seem to forget how pressure adds to fatigue... boy young Saul is in for a rude awakening.
Cshel86
Yes he is...its becoming a bit too much. In the same breath, Saul IS undefeated, so Oscar's words are believable to the general public (who needs every little reason to buy this fight). He's a promoter, so that's his job, but the vicarious approach that he's taking, is killing me.

Saul isn't a huge trash talker by any stretch of the imagination, but his mysterious demeanor and certainty in his abilities, is enough to convince me, that he doesn't have to trash talk. Again, Oscar's doing his job, so I can't knock him...
Franchize
I think so, but I get it. He's a promoter, Canelo doesn't speak english or trash talk enough to sell the fight. Everyone's eyes is glued to Floyd. I get it. I'm just tired of hearing De La Hoya talk about passing the torch and Floyd finally meeting his match. Motherfucker...you lost. What torch you passin bruh?
daprofessor
oscar has too much ego to let anyone outshine him....including the fighters on his roster. the more they fail...the better he looks.
CheckHook904
i wish oscar would shut up already...he startin to sound like he canelo's daddy or somethin. Its one thing ta support ya fighter and root for em, but it seems like oscar got too much emotion and personal issues involved in this fight moreso than any other mayweather opponent. Confidence is good, but it kinda seems like De La Hoya and Canelo is underestimatin Floyd,his punchin power and age. In Money's last fight he aint show no signs of looking his age or older,he looked fresh and had bounce to his legs.And he looks fresh and crisp from the training footage ive seen. Canelo looks good in training too, but oscar keeps puttin a world of weight on the kids shoulder with all the talkin instead of letting canelo go out there and do his thing.
mitukczuk
Pretty tired of De la Hoya at this point. He's a broken record.

As I said in another thread, Canelo is boring for PPV..so, Oscar is kinda trying to do his job and hype the fight for him. But it will add to the pressure..at least a little, which is a good thing - it can either break or make Canelo.
Dolimite
I know a lot of played sports either in HS or in college. Imagine playing your rival school. Everyone is already pumped and is on edge. They are excited and ready to play. Here comes the fucking principal talking major shit and saying all sorts of shit about the other team. That is added pressure that does not need to be. Its like when someone adds extra salt to grits, no matter how well prepared the grits were cooked and all the extra cheese and butter that was added, the salt kills the fucking taste of the grits. Right now Oscar is that salt for Canelo. Canelo is trying to get his grits at the best temperature and here is Oscar, adding more shit to the recipe then need be.

If I am Saul, I am telling Oscar to shut the fuck up and stop making prediction. Remember the last superstar fighter's team made a prediction? "He would need God to help him out" I think the pressure is little bit too much that Oscar is pushing. It is getting a little heavy. If Nelo doesn't get the KO then what?


Great post everyone!
Marcus
Are you kidding? Canelo is supposedly the #1 JMW. He's fighting to be the number one p4p fighter. And he wants to be the best. He claims Mayweather lost to DLH and that he can beatbhim.Theres no such thing as to much pressure when you want to be the greatest. You either adjust and rise to the occasion, or you crumble and let everyone see you for the fraud you really are which will be the case with Canelo come sep 14.
mrchitown
That aint nowhere near being pressure. If that's the case then he put pressure on every Floyd opponent sicnce he lost to Floyd back in 07.
emd01
I see it more as Oscar selling the fight. Most people say Canelo doesnt stand a chance and while I agree he'll get that ass whooped I do think he'll have his moments. As far as pressure...he began that when he signed the contract to fight the #1 fighter in the world. Now he has to deliver...or try to. That has to be an incredible amount of pressure alone.
DigitalBoom
I think the kid handles pressure well..I mean realistically while yes he has more cameras in his face for this fight it's not like he didn't have cameras chasing him all over town before it. It's not like a Robert Guerrero or Victor Ortiz who didn't know what that was like..this kid has been pretty damn famous a while now..hell my mother knows who he is. Regarding Oscar, listen I have been fighting the urge to bet on this fight because of the level of candor Oscar has been speaking with..there is a promoter push of course but it's exceeded that. I can't say I have ever seen a promoter go this far..ever. The way he's guaranteeing a win doesn't bode well for me if this fight goes to the cards because i'm not trying to lose my money on some bullshhhh judges score. It's happened twice in recent memory and it's not been a good feeling for me or my pockets afterwards..something about the ishh Oscar is saying just has me worried about the outcome and I do not think i'm alone in that regard.
bnoles4life
Too late now.....you asked for the fight, you shrewdly negotiated for the fight.....now you HAVE the fight. There is no pressure, only "work", to either give or get. His choice.
Dolimite
QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Sep 4 2013, 10:11 PM) *
I think the kid handles pressure well..I mean realistically while yes he has more cameras in his face for this fight it's not like he didn't have cameras chasing him all over town before it. It's not like a Robert Guerrero or Victor Ortiz who didn't know what that was like..this kid has been pretty damn famous a while now..hell my mother knows who he is. Regarding Oscar, listen I have been fighting the urge to bet on this fight because of the level of candor Oscar has been speaking with..there is a promoter push of course but it's exceeded that. I can't say I have ever seen a promoter go this far..ever. The way he's guaranteeing a win doesn't bode well for me if this fight goes to the cards because i'm not trying to lose my money on some bullshhhh judges score. It's happened twice in recent memory and it's not been a good feeling for me or my pockets afterwards..something about the ishh Oscar is saying just has me worried about the outcome and I do not think i'm alone in that regard.



QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Sep 5 2013, 06:30 AM) *
Too late now.....you asked for the fight, you shrewdly negotiated for the fight.....now you HAVE the fight. There is no pressure, only "work", to either give or get. His choice.


Noles and Boom, so yawl don't think the extra pressure that Oscar is adding doesn't mean anything? I mean shit, if I am Saul, I am telling Oscar to shut the fuck up. I bet 4k for this fight all on Floyd, he has no choice to win. I think Oscar should tone it down. Saying that Canelo is definitely going to knock Mayweather out does not help. Now Saul has to look for the knockout or feel some kind of way to look for the knock out. Saying the fight won't see round 9. that is pressure. Oscar should tone it done because if his fighter looks outclassed then he is going to have problems explaining Saul's performance.
BrutUalBK
Oscar is reminding me of a father who trains his son to do what he (the dad) was never able to do, he is doing a lot of wishful thinking simply because he wasn't able to KO Floyd he's just going overboard with it and trying to say anything that he hopes will get Mayweather riled up enough to try and do something out of character to exact revenge/so that he runs into something.

Yes, this is too much pressure for SC, what if he isn't able to KO Floyd in 9 rounds like he said then all the hype about Canelo's so called punching power is out of the window but an even sadder thing would be that if Canelo hits Money with his cleanest and hardest shot and it does nothing at all to Floyd.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 5 2013, 10:44 AM) *
Noles and Boom, so yawl don't think the extra pressure that Oscar is adding doesn't mean anything? I mean shit, if I am Saul, I am telling Oscar to shut the fuck up. I bet 4k for this fight all on Floyd, he has no choice to win. I think Oscar should tone it down. Saying that Canelo is definitely going to knock Mayweather out does not help. Now Saul has to look for the knockout or feel some kind of way to look for the knock out. Saying the fight won't see round 9. that is pressure. Oscar should tone it done because if his fighter looks outclassed then he is going to have problems explaining Saul's performance.


I mean, how much "extra" pressure can be added to the biggest moment of your life? I mean, in order for there to be extra pressure, it insinuates the stakes weren't at a maximum height to begin with....and we both know that isn't true.

I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying, "pressure" was TRYING to get the fight....touring and selling the fight to the masses. Now, that he's back to training....it's only work or GET worked.
Hotsauce
Oscar is promoting the fight and canelo is in a win-win situation
Dolimite
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Sep 5 2013, 09:40 PM) *
I mean, how much "extra" pressure can be added to the biggest moment of your life? I mean, in order for there to be extra pressure, it insinuates the stakes weren't at a maximum height to begin with....and we both know that isn't true.

I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying, "pressure" was TRYING to get the fight....touring and selling the fight to the masses. Now, that he's back to training....it's only work or GET worked.

So when the fight gets to the 9th round and there is no knock out then what?

Oscar is doing more than promoting. His heart is in this fight and his hope. if this young rooster beats the shit out of the pound for pound king, its money in the bank for the next 15 years.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 6 2013, 11:24 AM) *
So when the fight gets to the 9th round and there is no knock out then what?

Oscar is doing more than promoting. His heart is in this fight and his hope. if this young rooster beats the shit out of the pound for pound king, its money in the bank for the next 15 years.



You're missing the point. The moment he secured this fight, he had insurmountable pressure. It was a 10/10. While it's cool and descriptive to say, "on a scale of 1-10, it's a 15...", but it's not possible. This is THE biggest fight dude is EVER going to fight (unless, he fights a grizzly bear or is in a real-live version of OZ). There is NO more pressure to place upon him. If he doesn't KO him, but wins, let's be real; who's going to hold that against dude? Who's going to say, "Yeah, you beat Floyd, but you didn't KO him..."? In THAT aspect, Oscar is just selling tickets, no real pressure. I could be wrong, but I don't remember Canelo saying anything other than, "It's my time and I'll beat Mayweather". He didn't say HOW he was going to do it. He WANTS Canelo to beat Floyd (that much is in his heart), but if I had to bet, he knows "what's what".
Dolimite
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Sep 6 2013, 11:26 AM) *
You're missing the point. The moment he secured this fight, he had insurmountable pressure. It was a 10/10. While it's cool and descriptive to say, "on a scale of 1-10, it's a 15...", but it's not possible. This is THE biggest fight dude is EVER going to fight (unless, he fights a grizzly bear or is in a real-live version of OZ). There is NO more pressure to place upon him. If he doesn't KO him, but wins, let's be real; who's going to hold that against dude? Who's going to say, "Yeah, you beat Floyd, but you didn't KO him..."? In THAT aspect, Oscar is just selling tickets, no real pressure. I could be wrong, but I don't remember Canelo saying anything other than, "It's my time and I'll beat Mayweather". He didn't say HOW he was going to do it. He WANTS Canelo to beat Floyd (that much is in his heart), but if I had to bet, he knows "what's what".

I get what you are saying. He asked to sit at the big boy table and he got his wish. However, Canelo has said that he thinks he can knock out Mayweather and even said that he will be looking for it. Go to Boxingscene all his quotes are their. On the front page he said, the key was to counter punch Mayweather and apply smart pressure (his plan is to counter punch a counter puncher, okay). In one week we will find out what Saul is made of. Can't wait.
BoxingStill#1
DLH is vicariously living his life through Canelo at the moment.
Dolimite
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Sep 6 2013, 11:15 PM) *
DLH is vicariously living his life through Canelo at the moment.

Sad.
wolterb
Turns out Oscar was putting too much pressure on himself. Sad indeed
Dolimite
Or he doesn't want to be in the MGM when the fix is in. The entire TMT will be on that ass.

Seriously, on All Access he didn't look well. he is stressing for no reason. Saul, will be a cash no matter what.
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