QUOTE (mrchitown @ Sep 9 2013, 04:08 PM)
Keep Sawggin Cshel
We've all had gripes about fights, but we all ended up watching them anyway...in some shape form or fashion.
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 9 2013, 04:48 PM)
donaire testing all year and having victor conte on his pay roll was more suspect than anything to me. then he fights rigondeaux and looks nothing like his 'normal' self physically. yeah...they're legit. pffft.
Preach! Donaire and Conte's "fallout" was swept under the rug rather nicely...seemed like neither parties wanted to speak on it.
QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Sep 9 2013, 05:32 PM)
I'm sorry but normally you can defend Floyd and Ellerbe on most things and chalk it up to hate. What folks are conveniently leaving out is that this kid has been asking for this fight for a while now...clearly trying to negotiate the fight was not working out..this was confirmed by Floyd and by Canelo themselves. Canelo wanted a guaranteed shot at Floyd if he won either of his last two fights...which ended up forcing him to stop appearing on Floyd's undercard..Ironically they mentioned the weight and the fight was made..hell Chepo stated "They wanted 150..we finally came to an agreement at 152" and so did Schaeffer as well. So yeah let's not act like this was all based on Canelo's people speaking..they said what they needed to in order to get their fighter the bout...they did try with no weight shhh beforehand and it didn't get made. So yes at the end of the day Mayweather and Ellerbe had no plans of fighting at 154 against this kid...also not for a second do I believe they would've made the fight at 154...Khan was an option, alexander was an option and those are considerably easier opponents to beat but not big for ratings. We all know full well if Floyd and company cant flex their muscle via leverage you ain't getting the fight. With all due respect let's not act like this is new and like it makes any difference at this point...comments from three years ago are absolutely ridiculously overuse in this case. The fight is in 5 days..not much either man can do to change the circumstances.
You have to realize that this is the big leagues of boxing...it doesn't get any bigger than this. Honestly, this fight would've been at whatever weight, regardless. Floyd is in a position to call the shots, and Canelo can either take it or leave it.
Floyd never gets the credit that he deserves, so even if he wins this one, people will have something to say. The thing about Canelo, is that he's in a win/win situation. If he loses, he'll get a nice payday, and an excuse as to why he couldn't perform at 152. Even if the fight was at 150, then Canelo would still walk away with a payday and an excuse.
People are forgetting that CANELO signed for this fight. Oscar didn't sign for him, nor did his manager, nor did his trainer...just Canelo. So he (Canelo) can piss & moan about whose responsible for the catchweight, but at the end of the day, the bitch still signed on the dotted line himself. Money makes you do things against your better judgement, especially the money that Canelo's going to make for this fight.