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Gambit808
Why is it always something with Chavez Jr. man. It's as though controversy always finds this guy, rather it be from the lead up to a fight, during or after the fact. It's getting harder and harder to be a fan because of the way this guy conducts his self in an unprofessional manner at this professional stage. It's embarrassing to the sport IMO.

How the hell hasen't the weight limit been decided upon with a week left before the fight?

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-chavez-ver...termined--69930

http://www.boxingscene.com/veras-trainer-f...ituation--69932
daprofessor
he's the son of a legend man!!! cut him some slack. laugh.gif
Gambit808
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 24 2013, 08:04 PM) *
he's the son of a legend man!!! cut him some slack. laugh.gif

laugh.gif I'll leave that to Sr., Arum and Suliman. Does something like weighing in a week before a fight to determine the fight weight ever happen before on occasions? Cause I never herd of this.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Sep 24 2013, 07:12 PM) *
laugh.gif I'll leave that to Sr., Arum and Suliman. Does something like weighing in a week before a fight to determine the fight weight ever happen before on occasions? Cause I never herd of this.


when you're the son of a legend it does. laugh.gif i can't see him winning....but i'm going to root for vera to upset chavez.


truth
OMy problem with chavez is he doesnt love the sport i feel like hes doing because of his father kinda like a kid taking over the family business. Because of that he lacks discipline and that's why he will be good and never great. Just to put it out there broner is the same way.
Marcus
QUOTE (truth @ Sep 24 2013, 08:20 PM) *
OMy problem with chavez is he doesnt love the sport i feel like hes doing because of his father kinda like a kid taking over the family business. Because of that he lacks discipline and that's why he will be good and never great. Just to put it out there broner is the same way.


I agree except with the Broner part. Broner is to quick to call. CJ is talented but he doesnt have a passion for boxing. He will be humbled when he has to step up to face Ward. Martinez's beating wasnt god enough. Until he is put against an opponent that will test his passion we will keep hearing about his half ass training camps. Ward needs to retire this kid and do us all a favor. Chavez included. What a waste of talent.. no one man should have all that power *pun intended*
truth
Ll
QUOTE (Marcus @ Sep 24 2013, 09:56 PM) *
I agree except with the Broner part. Broner is to quick to call. CJ is talented but he doesnt have a passion for boxing. He will be humbled when he has to step up to face Ward. Martinez's beating wasnt god enough. Until he is put against an opponent that will test his passion we will keep hearing about his half ass training camps. Ward needs to retire this kid and do us all a favor. Chavez included. What a waste of talent.. no one man should have all that power *pun intended*



This is what i mean about broner he parties all the time drinking and smoking and all though he wasnt training for a fight until maidina he was completely was out of shape if he loves the game its not just when training camp starts i get my body together its i keep my body together cause i want to excel and be great even when Mayweather so called retired i bet he was still in shape look at ward always in shape you get my point he doesnt have that passion for the game thats why i say hes good i just dont think he will be great
mrchitown
As Charles Barkley would say "that's turrible" laugh.gif
Gambit808
QUOTE (truth @ Sep 24 2013, 10:22 PM) *
Ll


This is what i mean about broner he parties all the time drinking and smoking and all though he wasnt training for a fight until maidina he was completely was out of shape if he loves the game its not just when training camp starts i get my body together its i keep my body together cause i want to excel and be great even when Mayweather so called retired i bet he was still in shape look at ward always in shape you get my point he doesnt have that passion for the game thats why i say hes good i just dont think he will be great

Broner Drinks & Smokes, really?
truth
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Sep 24 2013, 10:45 PM) *
Broner Drinks & Smokes, really?


Really you didnt know that i mean like its always video taped and stuff so im like damn im not even looking to see what this man is doing yet its plastered in my face so im like if i see all of this imagine how wild he really is then i think well if he wants to be great why is he not putting that work in to hone his craft then it dawns on me he already think hes great and hes not and thats why hes not passionate about boxing yet.
Gambit808
QUOTE (truth @ Sep 24 2013, 10:56 PM) *
Really you didnt know that i mean like its always video taped and stuff so im like damn im not even looking to see what this man is doing yet its plastered in my face so im like if i see all of this imagine how wild he really is then i think well if he wants to be great why is he not putting that work in to hone his craft then it dawns on me he already think hes great and hes not and thats why hes not passionate about boxing yet.

I don't nessasarily keep up with his out of ring antics if it doesen't pertain to the fight game. I mean there was moments he came out to NY for rap battles, but that's about it, but if that is the case then he is a ticking time bomb in this sport. Shame.
jazz
QUOTE (truth @ Sep 24 2013, 09:22 PM) *
Ll


This is what i mean about broner he parties all the time drinking and smoking and all though he wasnt training for a fight until maidina he was completely was out of shape if he loves the game its not just when training camp starts i get my body together its i keep my body together cause i want to excel and be great even when Mayweather so called retired i bet he was still in shape look at ward always in shape you get my point he doesnt have that passion for the game thats why i say hes good i just dont think he will be great


You are saying that he should act more like Floyd Mayweather than Ricky Hatton or Oscar De La Hoya. I get it. I would say the same thing about Chavez Jr. If he exercised this kind of discipline, they wouldn't be talking about what the weight will be for the fight one week before the fight.
mgrover
this just adds to the hate I have for Chavez Jr. Kids a joke, somebody stated about Ricky Hatton, but even Hatton made weight.
checkleft
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Sep 24 2013, 08:04 PM) *
he's the son of a legend man!!! cut him some slack. laugh.gif

When did they stop cutting him slack? Lmao

That's why the call him "la vaca".
Plah
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 25 2013, 11:29 AM) *
When did they stop cutting him slack? Lmao

That's why the call him "la vaca".

laugh.gif
Cshel86
I found this a bit embarrassing as well, and I'm a Chavez fan. I mean Jesus, can't somebody tell this man-child to step away from the dinner table, and leave the alcohol and drive-thru alone...at least long enough to make weight?

daprofessor
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 25 2013, 10:29 AM) *
When did they stop cutting him slack? Lmao

That's why the call him "la vaca".


laugh.gif

i can no longer defend the dude. smh.
Dolimite
QUOTE (checkleft @ Sep 25 2013, 08:29 AM) *
When did they stop cutting him slack? Lmao

That's why the call him "la vaca".



Please translate...

Chavez Jr. should just be a damn heavy weight. Watch Arum make this fight at 180. Shit is ridiculous. Nacho would eat is ass up if they ever trained together. The kid does not realize how much potential he has. Imagine if he had the same work ethic as JMM or even Canelo (I know his stamina is shit but the kid does train). Fucking Chavez Jr. He is loving the fame but not the hard work that takes to be a boxer. This kid... I hope Vera knocks his ass out!
checkleft
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Sep 25 2013, 02:12 PM) *
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Please translate...

Chavez Jr. should just be a damn heavy weight. Watch Arum make this fight at 180. Shit is ridiculous. Nacho would eat is ass up if they ever trained together. The kid does not realize how much potential he has. Imagine if he had the same work ethic as JMM or even Canelo (I know his stamina is shit but the kid does train). Fucking Chavez Jr. He is loving the fame but not the hard work that takes to be a boxer. This kid... I hope Vera knocks his ass out!

It means cow, but around the boxing community they call him "la vaca de dinero" (the money cow) because of how pampered he is because of the fact that he can make money off of his dads name and because arum and the wbc are gonna milk him until he is dry.

They definitely got the cow part right
truth
So i just read in the LA Times that they arent going to announce the weight until after the way in but vera says if jr. Comes in over 173 the fight is off now if that isn't the craziest thing I've heard Bob is crazy.
mrchitown
QUOTE (truth @ Sep 25 2013, 06:58 PM) *
So i just read in the LA Times that they arent going to announce the weight until after the way in but vera says if jr. Comes in over 173 the fight is off now if that isn't the craziest thing I've heard Bob is crazy.


wtf.gif that ain't right man, he has no discipline
checkleft
Vera ain't gonna pull out, bobby will throw him on the shelf for good...
Hotsauce
this fight is a 10 round bout
Franchize
Top Rank is a joke. Bob Arum is like the Republicans in Obama's first term blaming him for the economy. MFer this is YOUR fighter. To try to throw him under the bus now. You was all on his dick before he ot his face boxed off by Martinez. Don't stand in the crowd with the rest of us and point fingers now.
Dolimite
173 is the weigh limit. How shameful. Bob is a fucking joke as well as Chavez Jr. If I was Sr. I would want Jr. to drop my last name. NO DISCIPLINE!
bnoles4life
Forrest Gump: "Momma always said, 'Chavez, Jr fights are like a box of chocolates....you never know what weight they're at, 'til they get there.' "
Jack 1000
Fuck this fight!

I am boycotting this shit! They could have Chavez weigh 200 lbs and they won't call it off because HBO and that pom-pom shaker Lamply and crew need to find anything anyway to keep "the star's fight happening." Vera should pull out. I'll bet any money that Lampley nor anyone else on the HBO crew is told not to mention the weight issue. They brought Vera in to make him Chavez Jr. look good. This one's a joke. We'll still of course do our round-by-round updates. This weight shit is disgusting. How many chances does this guy get?

Jack
xxxxxx
I wouldn't be surprised if Chavez Jr. will be in a Heavyweight fight by the end of his career.
Cshel86
Cant wait to see these weigh-in pics! I haven't laughed hard all day long. LOL
NoCatchweights
A new low for Bob, I can't imagine the purse Vera will get, he can't pull out.
NoCatchweights
Geez 172 for Chavez, that's a pound less than Stevenson and Kevin Iole says Chavez Jr was in the sauna all day to get to that.
Jack 1000
Just talking about this fight with my friend as we are Emailing each other. He brought up the tragic Gatti-Gamache fight. Gamache's people were concerned at the weigh in about Gatti's's weight, were told by the head commissioner at the time to "shut up." And who shook the pom-poms the most for Gatti? HBO and Lamply Although granted that Gatti, although a limited fighter was a thrill to watch. Could we see a developing tragic pattern, at least concerning this fight? My friend thinks Vera will probably get several thousand in bonus money from Arum, so he doesn't complain about the weight.

Jack
NoCatchweights
Good posts Jack.

I'm in Dallas, Vera from Fort Worth even though he claims Austin and Vera was doing local shows just a couple years ago, now ESPN says Vera will make over 400,000. I'm sure Vera is worried for his health but Vera a real warrior, he would fight Wilder for 400,000 as and who knows what Chavez will weigh, I'm thinking over 190 on fight night.
checkleft
Is this for the wbc 173 pound belt? taunt.gif
Hotsauce
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Sep 27 2013, 03:02 PM) *
Cant wait to see these weigh-in pics! I haven't laughed hard all day long. LOL


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