QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Oct 12 2013, 09:03 PM)
The guy is an entertainer and figured there are others like him scared to be who they are. I respect the man for coming out, I felt like many other people on here do about gay people until my cousin came out of the closet. Me and dude go back to capn crunch and [b]voltron days.[/b] When you sit down with someone whose had to hide their sexuality from family and the world and honestly listen to the shhhh they've had to endure you look at things differently. Imagine if someone tomorrow said you are black and it's wrong to date white women, or you are white and can't date latinas..you'd be like wtf fck you. Also anyone who is a student of history knows that some of the most historically influential people to ever live were gay including Da Vinci who is responsible for so many of the things we today take for granted but help us not live like animals. Homosexuality predates the bible and was put in the bible because kings knew two men can't breed and breeding provides soldiers and without soldiers you cannot protect your kingdom. Anyone here who sat through 300 sat through the story of a bunch of gay soldiers...fyi..spartans were gay (Leonidas was gay as hell). Greece is the foundation of modern day society and go look at the top philosphers actual personal history, same for babylon...
Got damn, how old are you??? Lol
I hear ya man, I hear ya. As for many guys around here, I haven't noticed anybody really downing gay people. Now...we may throw a couple of gay jokes around here and there (especially about Oscar), but I don't see any "hateful" gay stuff being posted.
I understand the gay movement (well, a little bit), but I'm not sure about some of the logic going on there...maybe it's not for me to understand though. The only have two problems with the gay community, but nothing that would make me "hate them"...well, maybe 3 problems, but hear me out here.
First, as far as gay men...again, be what you wanna be or what you feel/know you are. As annoying as flamboyant gay men are, I can respect them, because they've chosen who/what they are. As for the "down low" gay men, I mean c'mon, it's not cool. I understand that they dont wanna be ridiculed for who they are, but at the very least, PLEASE don't sleep with an innocent woman while you're actively sleeping with a man. I mean hell, that's kinda unfair that a guy can pass on "something" (read: disease) to an innocent woman, and she's thinking (while most other guys are thinking) that the dude is straight.
Men having sex with men, is the QUICKEST and EASIEST way to spread the "ultimate' disease. I mean, heterosexuals aren't innocent either, since some/most "sleep around", and judging by the diseases floating around here nowadays, nothing's truly safe.
The second issue, is the whole "they said something about gay people, make them pay" stance. As SOON as somebody says something about a gay person or their way of life, then comes the trouble. It's like the gay community wants to be accepted (which, for the most part, they have) and they're this "loving and accepting" group of people, but as soon as somebody says the wrong thing (which is usually from the person's personal and/or spiritual opinion), then suddenly, they're (the gay community), turns into a riot group.
Third, but most of all, the one that chaps my buns, is the religion stance. You have gay people (some) saying that, "I'm really a (insert gender here), but I was born a (insert gender here)". I dont understand, that...so you're praising God (who is PERFECT, by universal understand) but saying that he made a mistake with gender in the same breath? Im still a little lost here.
As soon as somebody hits them with the "homosexuality is a sin, an abomination, etc", then suddenly, they're saying that "God loves everybody", which is true, but this is the same guy who you pretty much inadvertently claimed, "made a mistake with your gender". We'll then hear from both sides, which testament that came from in the bible, etc...all of which is subjective, being that people read and interpret things in their own manner...sometimes, because they feel that they truly understand, and sometimes, to fit their agendas.
As for homosexuality, the whole "I was born this way" stuff, isn't as fitting anymore. At one point in time, it rung a bell, and pretty much told the public, "This is who God made me, sort it out with Him". I believe (don't take this as the gospel) that homosexuality has more to do with environment, rather than "I was born this way", but that's just my opinion. If you grew up around that type of stuff, been molested, etc., then I can understand.
Some people do it because they cultivated a taste for it, NOT because they were "born that way". In some cases, (women do it the most), people do it run away from their present situation. As a matter fo fact, I'll stick that stereotype to women, since that's the "new thing to do". When too many men have done a woman wrong, they run to a woman...women that "look, dress, and act" like the very thing that they're running from...men. I mean damn, some of these lesbians look like men that I KNOW these women wouldn't be caught dead with, so where's the excuse there?
I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter HOW MANY women fuck me over, there's no way in hell I'm gonna be hugged with some burly ass dude, because I cant "take it anymore" (from women). I'm sorry, but something has to be going through a woman's mind, to "go down on" another woman, and have sex with a woman (who portrays herself as a man). Again, no matter how many women do me wrong, I wont be hugged up with, going down on, or "giving and/or taking" from another man...something has to be going through your mind before all of that happens.
I was watching the Real World earlier this year, and there a brotha (or black dude), who decided to share his "homosexual experience" that he had with a man years before. The excuse was BS, period. He was an athlete (played football) and was into music (I believe he was in a band), so that's was the opening point of his story. He then said that he and a male friend were "bored and drinking", and "football was over" (the season was) and "music was over", and he had was pretty much idle, in regards to extra curricular activities.
He then said that he and the guy were "laying around chillin'", and they suddenly started having sex. C'mon, pleeeease! You dont just get "bored and drunk", then decide to have sex with a dude, sorry. Anyhow, that stuff seems to stem from an environmental standpoint, rather than the whole "I was born this way" excuse.
As for the whole religion standpoint, Im not using religion and "what the bible says" in order to down gay people...they are who they are. Truthfully, I cant stand "religious" people or "church-going" people...I only deal with truly spiritual people, very few, might I add. There are many "religious" people using the bible and church, to push their own agendas or "cushion" their sins.
For instance, I cant tell you how many women I have run into in the past few years, who get to know me, get comfortable, sleep with me (for a while), then start mentioning how we should "go to church together" and inquiring my "relationship with God" Uhhh...WTF??? It's almost like "going to church" or having a "relationship with God", is the prerequisite for "getting laid" nowadays. It's disgusting, and truthfully, a past relationship of mine (years ago), ended on those terms.
I hear and see (via social networks), women with their "man" (not married or anything), post, "I thank God for this man every day, and Im praying over our relationship, blah, blah, blah". Uhhhh...so what if that isn't God's plan? Aren't yall "fornicating"? To make matters worse, those same women have the nerve to JUDGE others and judge their relationship with God. Go figure.
With all of this said, I don't HATE gay people (though I dont understand some of their logic) and I don't rely on "religion" or "religious people" to tell me what to believe, when I have eyes, ears, and a mind, to interpret the same information as them.
PS: Im at work, and I didn't do a spell check. Forgive me. Lol