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KOpower
1. Adrien Broner vs Marcos Maidana

2. Victor Ortiz-Carlos Molina

3. Keith Thurman vs Soto-Karass

4. Alfredo Angulo vs Jorge Melendez

That is a pretty solid card from top to bottom. I wish the Gonzalez-Mares fight was on the card, but oh well. This will be a really nice PPV event for us in the dead of winter. I like it.
bnoles4life
It'll get my $$$$$
checkleft
Very good card.
Jack 1000
QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 12 2013, 11:20 PM) *
1. Adrien Broner vs Marcos Maidana

2. Victor Ortiz-Carlos Molina

3. Keith Thurman vs Soto-Karass

4. Alfredo Angulo vs Jorge Melendez

That is a pretty solid card from top to bottom. I wish the Gonzalez-Mares fight was on the card, but oh well. This will be a really nice PPV event for us in the dead of winter. I like it.


Not bad at all. The only downer might be Victor "The Quitter" Ortiz. Will he disappoint and live up to that name?

Jack
NoCatchweights
I would have made Trout -Angulo and Ponce vs Russell instead of putting Carlos Molina on another ppv.
xxxxxx
Excellent card. It would be even better if it was Regular Showtime though.
mrchitown
Nice lineup of fights, definitely better then that crap last night, I'm glad I didn't pay for that but this one will get my money for sure
sduck
I'm probably not going to buy this only because money is tight, but I'm definitely going to watch this.
Gambit808
QUOTE (KOpower @ Oct 13 2013, 12:20 AM) *
1. Adrien Broner vs Marcos Maidana

2. Victor Ortiz-Carlos Molina

3. Keith Thurman vs Soto-Karass

4. Alfredo Angulo vs Jorge Melendez

Stacked cards like this have proven in recent past to never go through as first announced, but we'll see what happens from here until fight night. (fingers crossed)
Franchize
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 13 2013, 05:26 PM) *
Stacked cards like this have proven in recent past to never go through as first announced, but we'll see what happens from here until fight night. (fingers crossed)

This is very true! I will say though, Golden Boy has shown the ability to adjust pretty quickly. I almost feel spoiled with Golden Boy cards in comparison to Top Prank
Gambit808
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 13 2013, 06:23 PM) *
This is very true! I will say though, Golden Boy has shown the ability to adjust pretty quickly. I almost feel spoiled with Golden Boy cards in comparison to Top Prank

Can't deny that. It would be tough to out do what's already set at this point though. This is Chrismas come early for boxing fans.
NoCatchweights
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 13 2013, 05:23 PM) *
This is very true! I will say though, Golden Boy has shown the ability to adjust pretty quickly. I almost feel spoiled with Golden Boy cards in comparison to Top Prank



It's really becoming embarrassing for Bob when Marquez, Cotto and Manny are gone he'll be Don King.
Marcus
QUOTE (NoCatchweights @ Oct 13 2013, 03:36 AM) *
I would have made Trout -Angulo and Ponce vs Russell instead of putting Carlos Molina on another ppv.


Trout is fighting Lara on the undercard of Malinaggi Judah- another nice card. Sheesh golden boy wiping their asses on TR/HBO
Cshel86
Oh Lord, my girlfriend's birthday is on the 13th of Dec., which is a Friday. Hopefully I can celebrate with her on Friday, and she can GTFO outta my way on the 14th...these are the times that you hope her henpecking homegirls try to "celebrate all weekend" and take her away from you. Lol

The joys of not being single anymore. dntknw.gif I'll take her out of town the weekend before that, which means I'll miss the Judah/Paulie and Trout/Lara card, so I AINT missin' two weekends of boxing. LOL

Pretty good card though! As Gambit mentioned, cards like these tend to break and rebuild several times before the fight date.

Some of that I think, is "just how it goes" and somewhere along the lines, I think promoters read all of the buzz for one of the fights, and an "injury" occurs.

One of them gets hurts, pulls out of the fight, and a "new date" is set (read: "initially, we didn't have much confidence in this fight, but now that the buzz has grown, we'll make it an independent card and make more money off of it").
Dolimite
The Ortiz and Molina fight will still the show, Ortiz wants back in the good graces of the public and GB. He will bring a show and it will be a great fight. Thurman should knock out Soto and I have no idea how The Maidana and Broner fight will go. I am leaning towards AB but anything can happen in boxing.
mgrover
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 13 2013, 05:26 PM) *
Nice lineup of fights, definitely better then that crap last night, I'm glad I didn't pay for that but this one will get my money for sure


why was it crap? was decent night of boxing
mrchitown
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 14 2013, 02:52 PM) *
why was it crap? was decent night of boxing


I don't like the way TR puts their undercards together but I did like the Lomanchenko fight...didn't care for the Cruz-Salido one though...but i didn't complain when he got put on queen street laugh.gif

The last TR PPV I actually purchased was Pacquiao-Mosley, I refuse to pay for their cards. That card was one of the worse I've ever seen and in just decided not to buy them anymore until they improve
checkleft
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 13 2013, 06:48 PM) *
Can't deny that. It would be tough to out do what's already set at this point though. This is Chrismas come early for boxing fans.

I'm sayin

QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 14 2013, 03:52 PM) *
why was it crap? was decent night of boxing

Mg is on the right page. I thought salido and Cruz put on a good show and the marquez Bradley fight was a good chess match, too bad us Mexicans are better at checkers and dominos or else marquez would have done better lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 04:35 PM) *
I don't like the way TR puts their undercards together but I did like the Lomanchenko fight...didn't care for the Cruz-Salido one though...but i didn't complain when he got put on queen street laugh.gif

The last TR PPV I actually purchased was Pacquiao-Mosley, I refuse to pay for their cards. That card was one of the worse I've ever seen and in just decided not to buy them anymore until they improve

Nice one

Lol

QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 15 2013, 03:24 AM) *
I'm sayin


Mg is on the right page. I thought salido and Cruz put on a good show and the marquez Bradley fight was a good chess match, too bad us Mexicans are better at checkers and dominos or else marquez would have done better lol

Asshole!

laugh.gif
Cshel86
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Oct 13 2013, 05:26 PM) *
Stacked cards like this have proven in recent past to never go through as first announced, but we'll see what happens from here until fight night. (fingers crossed)

Have to bump this thread and take a bow, you're absolutely correct.

Looks like the IBF wont sanction Molina vs Ortiz...and I say, THANK GOD! Now, the IBF can keep boring ass Molina and their piece of shit title, who cares. At this point, I'd be happy to see Ortiz/Mosley, and Molina can go jerk off somewhere else.

Im telling you, I felt so cheated out of my money, while Molina and Smith held no punches with boring my company during that last Mayweather card. The last decent Molina fight that I saw, was the Kirkland fight, then he fought some dude on FNFs a few months ago.

I can do without Molina, Smith, and the IBF. Again, who cares about these stupid titles anyway? You're either the interim champ, super champ, silver, champ, gold champ, regular champ, runner up, almost your time, or half-assed champ...and that's all under one title belt. Who has time to keep up with that? Lol
emd01
QUOTE (NoCatchweights @ Oct 12 2013, 11:36 PM) *
I would have made Trout -Angulo and Ponce vs Russell instead of putting Carlos Molina on another ppv.

Molina has a strap in the same division as Floyd. With the lack of opposition on the horizon for Floyd I wouldnt be surprised if we see Floyd fight the winner of Molina/Ortiz.

This is a great card. Doubt if i'm buying it though.

Broner by UD
Molina by SD
Thurman by UD
Angulo by TKO
checkleft
Dub
checkleft
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 23 2013, 08:11 AM) *
Have to bump this thread and take a bow, you're absolutely correct.

Looks like the IBF wont sanction Molina vs Ortiz...and I say, THANK GOD! Now, the IBF can keep boring ass Molina and their piece of shit title, who cares. At this point, I'd be happy to see Ortiz/Mosley, and Molina can go jerk off somewhere else.

Im telling you, I felt so cheated out of my money, while Molina and Smith held no punches with boring my company during that last Mayweather card. The last decent Molina fight that I saw, was the Kirkland fight, then he fought some dude on FNFs a few months ago.

I can do without Molina, Smith, and the IBF. Again, who cares about these stupid titles anyway? You're either the interim champ, super champ, silver, champ, gold champ, regular champ, runner up, almost your time, or half-assed champ...and that's all under one title belt. Who has time to keep up with that? Lol

Actually... The card may have just gotten better!!!

With the situation that occurred Wednesday, rumor is Mosley may replace molina, now I know Mosley is no spring chicken but he likes to mix it up just like ortiz, and with victors jedi mental fortitude id give Mosley a decent chance to go in there and give him trouble.

The boxing gods are on our side this year, I'm tellin ya bro dirol.gif
Jack 1000
Good card for competitive matches. NOT good for PPV, unless it was something like the old days of boxing at $29.95. The probable $50-$60 for this is ridiculous! Yahoo Sports thinks so as well:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrien-broner...00240--box.html

Jack
Jack 1000
QUOTE
With the situation that occurred Wednesday, rumor is Mosley may replace molina, now I know Mosley is no spring chicken but he likes to mix it up


Except in the Mayweather fight when after hurting Floyd he remembered he was just supposed to get paid to show up. Mosley hasn't mixed it up and really looked good since Margacheato, And that was probably because "Cheato" didn't have his loaded gloves. He beat that dude in Mexico, (Cano?) But Mosley's days as a winning fighter and an exciting fighter I think have passed.

Jack
mrchitown
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 25 2013, 03:10 PM) *
Good card for competitive matches. NOT good for PPV, unless it was something like the old days of boxing at $29.95. The probable $50-$60 for this is ridiculous! Yahoo Sports thinks so as well:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrien-broner...00240--box.html

Jack


Well you guys got your wish, it's no longer a PPV and it's moved to Texas
Jack 1000
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 26 2013, 06:30 PM) *
Well you guys got your wish, it's no longer a PPV and it's moved to Texas


Great for Non-PPV. Not good for the shit that goes down in Texas!

Jack
Cshel86
At this point, you gotta wonder...would it have been worse for us to pay for these fights and get halfway decent scorecards, or see GOOD fights in Texas (for free) and watch the cards get jizzed away?
Jack 1000
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:18 PM) *
At this point, you gotta wonder...would it have been worse for us to pay for these fights and get halfway decent scorecards, or see GOOD fights in Texas (for free) and watch the cards get jizzed away?


LOL!!! Is Showtime gonna really have the budget to do all those fights? My guess is they will show three of them and Showtime Extreme will do the others.

Jack

PS. I know CShel, we got CJ Ross gone hopefully for good, now we'll probably get stuck with Lawrence Cole and Gale Van Hoy! There WILL be some fuck ups I am gonna say in two of the fights!


mrchitown
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:02 PM) *
Great for Non-PPV. Not good for the shit that goes down in Texas!

Jack


When they said Texas I got disappointed. Good card but controversy is bound to happen
Franchize
So now Victor Ortiz is facing Alfonso Gomez on the undercard. I thought there was talks of him fighting Shane Mosley. I wonder if Shane balked for a second time.
flazi
lol why am i going to root for gomez
checkleft
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 25 2013, 03:10 PM) *
Good card for competitive matches. NOT good for PPV, unless it was something like the old days of boxing at $29.95. The probable $50-$60 for this is ridiculous! Yahoo Sports thinks so as well:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adrien-broner...00240--box.html

Jack


Ive paid for a maidana ppv before, never regreted it. And I was ready to buy this one to
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 25 2013, 03:14 PM) *
Except in the Mayweather fight when after hurting Floyd he remembered he was just supposed to get paid to show up. Mosley hasn't mixed it up and really looked good since Margacheato, And that was probably because "Cheato" didn't have his loaded gloves. He beat that dude in Mexico, (Cano?) But Mosley's days as a winning fighter and an exciting fighter I think have passed.

Jack

I don't remember if he won but he was definitely beating cano, and mixing it up despite being hurt. He would have nothing to lose against ortiz and his ability to withstand ortiz punches could eventually frustrate victor as in the lamont and josesito fights

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 26 2013, 06:30 PM) *
Well you guys got your wish, it's no longer a PPV and it's moved to Texas

The gift and the curse lol
mgrover
pahaha this should shut Broner up.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 27 2013, 11:00 PM) *
LOL!!! Is Showtime gonna really have the budget to do all those fights? My guess is they will show three of them and Showtime Extreme will do the others.

Jack

PS. I know CShel, we got CJ Ross gone hopefully for good, now we'll probably get stuck with Lawrence Cole and Gale Van Hoy! There WILL be some fuck ups I am gonna say in two of the fights!

I think they will have the budget...I can easily see them splitting close to $4M between these 8 fighters.

Broner will probably rack in about $1.8M (since he got $1.5M for the Paulie fight), while Maidana gets about $500k, since he doesn't mind taking chump change for fights. That $500k might be a stretch for Maidana though, lol.

As for Ortiz and Gomez...they may be the reason that most fans show up, to be perfectly honest. Regardless of their records and outings, they can still draw an exceptional amount of fans. I'd say that Ortiz will get about $300k, while Gomez would be lucky to even get $100K.

Thurman will probably get about $200k, while JSK will probably get about $100K.

Santa Cruz (another decent draw at this time), would get something around $100k, while Seda will get something around 30 or 40k.

These guys are gonna end up taking a huge pay cut, in order for this card to happen (read: in order for GBP to get some type of return from it). I know that most of these guys on the card, have managers who squeeze the sport dry, in order for them to get paid ridiculous money (who wouldn't want a manager like that?), but something's gotta give on this card.

If anything, this card will be the introduction to many great fights and cards like this in 2014. Remember all of those Golden Boy triple and quadruple headers that were being put together from '09-'11? Hell, those same types of cards are being made, but those guys (Garcia, Guerrero, Ortiz, etc) have sprung out on their own. Not only have they sprung out on their own, but they're willing to fight on the same card, which is rare nowadays.

Will Cole and Van Hoy be involved in this card? God I hope that's just speculation. Cole has always been shaky in my book...and I remember that travesty of a card that Van Hoye had for the Lopez/Salido rematch, before Salido KO'D Lopez. Smh
Franchize
I have to say, not only am I impressed with Golden Boy. I'm impressed with the fighters. As CShel said, not normal for fighters on the come up nowadays to agree to fight on the same card. Broner seemed like he wasn't thrilled about the bout not being PPV anymore but other than that, everyone pretty much just wants to fight big fights on Showtime. I wish Ortiz would have fought Shane Mosley. That way, at least one of them would most likely have to shut the fuck up forever when they lose bye.gif
mgrover
sex tape...
checkleft
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:14 AM) *
I think they will have the budget...I can easily see them splitting close to $4M between these 8 fighters.

Broner will probably rack in about $1.8M (since he got $1.5M for the Paulie fight), while Maidana gets about $500k, since he doesn't mind taking chump change for fights. That $500k might be a stretch for Maidana though, lol.

As for Ortiz and Gomez...they may be the reason that most fans show up, to be perfectly honest. Regardless of their records and outings, they can still draw an exceptional amount of fans. I'd say that Ortiz will get about $300k, while Gomez would be lucky to even get $100K.

Thurman will probably get about $200k, while JSK will probably get about $100K.

Santa Cruz (another decent draw at this time), would get something around $100k, while Seda will get something around 30 or 40k.

These guys are gonna end up taking a huge pay cut, in order for this card to happen (read: in order for GBP to get some type of return from it). I know that most of these guys on the card, have managers who squeeze the sport dry, in order for them to get paid ridiculous money (who wouldn't want a manager like that?), but something's gotta give on this card.

If anything, this card will be the introduction to many great fights and cards like this in 2014. Remember all of those Golden Boy triple and quadruple headers that were being put together from '09-'11? Hell, those same types of cards are being made, but those guys (Garcia, Guerrero, Ortiz, etc) have sprung out on their own. Not only have they sprung out on their own, but they're willing to fight on the same card, which is rare nowadays.

Will Cole and Van Hoy be involved in this card? God I hope that's just speculation. Cole has always been shaky in my book...and I remember that travesty of a card that Van Hoye had for the Lopez/Salido rematch, before Salido KO'D Lopez. Smh

Sounds like everyone but broner is getting chump change
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 29 2013, 05:25 PM) *
Sounds like everyone but broner is getting chump change


Why not, he is the star
mgrover
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 30 2013, 12:20 AM) *
Why not, he is the star


he is a star, a porn star...
mrchitown
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 29 2013, 07:18 PM) *
he is a star, a porn star...


Stop the hate..Am confused why you choose to go this route lol
mrchitown
Marktability equals money. Cash rules, since Adrien is being billed as the next star in boxing. Don't nobody on that card name ring bells with casuals except Adrien and Victor

On another note, Maidana is supposedly working with Ariza. I kinda don't understand the move because he's never had the issues in which most fighters bring in Ariza but it's an interesting twist
Cshel86
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 29 2013, 03:18 PM) *
I have to say, not only am I impressed with Golden Boy. I'm impressed with the fighters. As CShel said, not normal for fighters on the come up nowadays to agree to fight on the same card. Broner seemed like he wasn't thrilled about the bout not being PPV anymore but other than that, everyone pretty much just wants to fight big fights on Showtime. I wish Ortiz would have fought Shane Mosley. That way, at least one of them would most likely have to shut the fuck up forever when they lose bye.gif

Glad Golden Boy fighters are willing to take this step. Even if they're matched against guys who probably wont be a threat (on paper), they still wont turn it down, like they're too hollywood. I kinda wanted the Ortiz/Mosley scrap as well, but Shane tends to disappoint JUST as bad as he does when he headlines his own card. Best thing to do with that, is let him headline his own card, get beat, and fade away...hopefully.

QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 29 2013, 06:25 PM) *
Sounds like everyone but broner is getting chump change

That's how these PPV cards go man...I couldnt believe it, until about 2 years ago. I thought that if the fight was on PPV, then ALL of the fighters will be getting big paydays...boy was I wrong. If anything, they just get a bigger stage to show their talents.

On the Morales/Maidana card, Morales was only guaranteed $500k, and he was the attraction that night...so imagine how much Maidana made (couldn't have been much), let alone the rest of the guys. I think I remember Paulie making somewhere around $100k that night (to fight J. Cotto), so that should tell you something. I remember them disclosing the Mayweather/Cotto purse split...of course those two got the lion's share, the Canelo pulled in about $1.2M, while Shane only got about $600k. I remember guys like Lattimore, Vargas, and Quintana getting between $50k-$80K....so yeah, those splits are ridiculous.

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 29 2013, 09:39 PM) *
Stop the hate..Am confused why you choose to go this route lol

I take it that you haven't seen or heard about this infamous sex tape that graced the web. Cant hate on dude for having a threesome...just hope his antics dont catch up with him too bad. Lol
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:24 PM) *
Glad Golden Boy fighters are willing to take this step. Even if they're matched against guys who probably wont be a threat (on paper), they still wont turn it down, like they're too hollywood. I kinda wanted the Ortiz/Mosley scrap as well, but Shane tends to disappoint JUST as bad as he does when he headlines his own card. Best thing to do with that, is let him headline his own card, get beat, and fade away...hopefully.


That's how these PPV cards go man...I couldnt believe it, until about 2 years ago. I thought that if the fight was on PPV, then ALL of the fighters will be getting big paydays...boy was I wrong. If anything, they just get a bigger stage to show their talents.

On the Morales/Maidana card, Morales was only guaranteed $500k, and he was the attraction that night...so imagine how much Maidana made (couldn't have been much), let alone the rest of the guys. I think I remember Paulie making somewhere around $100k that night (to fight J. Cotto), so that should tell you something. I remember them disclosing the Mayweather/Cotto purse split...of course those two got the lion's share, the Canelo pulled in about $1.2M, while Shane only got about $600k. I remember guys like Lattimore, Vargas, and Quintana getting between $50k-$80K....so yeah, those splits are ridiculous.


I take it that you haven't seen or heard about this infamous sex tape that graced the web. Cant hate on dude for having a threesome...just hope his antics dont catch up with him too bad. Lol


Man everybody got a sextape. It's sad the times we live in but can't name too many that don't

I'd like to see the money figures for this cars and the Judah-Malinaggi card too. The fighters are definitely making a sacrifice to pull off a quadruple header
checkleft
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:24 PM) *
Glad Golden Boy fighters are willing to take this step. Even if they're matched against guys who probably wont be a threat (on paper), they still wont turn it down, like they're too hollywood. I kinda wanted the Ortiz/Mosley scrap as well, but Shane tends to disappoint JUST as bad as he does when he headlines his own card. Best thing to do with that, is let him headline his own card, get beat, and fade away...hopefully.


That's how these PPV cards go man...I couldnt believe it, until about 2 years ago. I thought that if the fight was on PPV, then ALL of the fighters will be getting big paydays...boy was I wrong. If anything, they just get a bigger stage to show their talents.

On the Morales/Maidana card, Morales was only guaranteed $500k, and he was the attraction that night...so imagine how much Maidana made (couldn't have been much), let alone the rest of the guys. I think I remember Paulie making somewhere around $100k that night (to fight J. Cotto), so that should tell you something. I remember them disclosing the Mayweather/Cotto purse split...of course those two got the lion's share, the Canelo pulled in about $1.2M, while Shane only got about $600k. I remember guys like Lattimore, Vargas, and Quintana getting between $50k-$80K....so yeah, those splits are ridiculous.


I take it that you haven't seen or heard about this infamous sex tape that graced the web. Cant hate on dude for having a threesome...just hope his antics dont catch up with him too bad. Lol

I don't think shane is under gbp anymore. But the only gbp fighter I know of turning fights down is guerrero.
mgrover
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 30 2013, 02:39 AM) *
Stop the hate..Am confused why you choose to go this route lol


because am a hater of Adrien Broner...There I said it, are you happy lol
mrchitown
QUOTE (mgrover @ Oct 30 2013, 05:14 AM) *
because am a hater of Adrien Broner...There I said it, are you happy lol


laugh.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 30 2013, 12:11 AM) *
I don't think shane is under gbp anymore. But the only gbp fighter I know of turning fights down is guerrero.


I don't think he's been with GB since he decided to give up his stake in the company and pursue that Pacquiao fight. But after that he tucked tail and went right back to GB. Just like how Schaefer setup the Mundine fight for him. When your as desperate as he appears to you can't be choosy
checkleft
Well gomez is out of the card (injured hand)...
mrchitown
Damn man, first the Molina fight fell thru now the Gomez fight. GB gon have to pull a rabbit out they hat if they want Ortiz on the card still
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