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MAHDI
How would this fight look? Is it even worth discussing?
Dolimite
QUOTE (MAHDI @ Oct 14 2013, 07:55 AM) *
How would this fight look? Is it even worth discussing?

I know this is going to sound strange but I have always felt the one boxer that could give Mayweather headaches would be Tim Bradley. Tim, like Floyd, finds ways to win. No matter how ugly or pretty he just finds a way to win. Because Bradley is mentally tough and can actually box, Floyd would have to bring all his tricks to the ring. Bradley moves well and he has a nice jab. I love this fight. Someone's 0 would have to go. The problem is, Bradley is with Top Rank and HBO. because Bob hates Tim I can see him leasing Tim for one night. Or Tim can leave TR and be a free agent. I think he is contract expires with TR in March, which is plenty of time for him to fight in May. I would love to see this fight. Tim is rightfully the second best WW in boxing. Plus he has the WBO belt which I am sure Floyd would not mind adding to his collection. I say make this fight happen.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 14 2013, 10:51 AM) *
I know this is going to sound strange but I have always felt the one boxer that could give Mayweather headaches would be Tim Bradley. Tim, like Floyd, finds ways to win. No matter how ugly or pretty he just finds a way to win. Because Bradley is mentally tough and can actually box, Floyd would have to bring all his tricks to the ring. Bradley moves well and he has a nice jab. I love this fight. Someone's 0 would have to go. The problem is, Bradley is with Top Rank and HBO. because Bob hates Tim I can see him leasing Tim for one night. Or Tim can leave TR and be a free agent. I think he is contract expires with TR in March, which is plenty of time for him to fight in May. I would love to see this fight. Tim is rightfully the second best WW in boxing. Plus he has the WBO belt which I am sure Floyd would not mind adding to his collection. I say make this fight happen.


That's not enough time to get the finances set for a Mayweather ppv. March? Cmon now you got to line up sponsors, press tour, undercard and that would require GB to negotiate quickly with Tim. It's just not going to work

I do believe he is more deserving of a fight with Mayweather then any of the current options but his involvement with Arum makes this fight a non starter until he leaves....and if they were to ever fight I got Floyd by UD, speed kills and Floyd will frustrate Bradley with his pinpoint accuracy
Franchize
I'm with Mrchitown. That seems like a super short turnaround. Not to mention, while Bradley beat Marquez, he didn't exactly boost his popularity. It wasn't a very entertaining fight. I can see Gb welcoming Tim with open arms but saying "whoa whoa whoa...we have a host of guys at 140-147 pushing for a shot at Floyd." This would be a perfect time to implement a tournament. Everyone can eat. I would really like to see Bradley vs Garcia or Broner.

I also don't get where this idea that Bradley is cemented in as the undisputed #3 P4P fighter in the world. Neither Marquez nor Pacquiao were in that position. He didn't dominate either fight. So I don't get how beating them guarantees him that honor lol
mgrover
Id like to see Bradley vs Khan if Khan gets some wins under his belt.
bnoles4life
I had a discussion w/ someone about 3-4 years ago and this person said, "If anyone is going to beat Floyd, it's gonna be one of these young lions, like Bradley..." I laughed at it then and halfway chuckle at it now....but I'm not LAUGHING any longer about Tim. I think his quickness could make Floyd a bit hesitant in the beginning.....however; the fact he has pillows connected to his wrists, won't keep Floyd at bay for long. I agree w/ Chi, Floyd by UD or late TKO. Bradley can be hurt and I think he'd have to be the aggressor vs. Floyd, b/c sitting on the outside, well, is like throwing the fight. He gets picked apart from out there. I think he has to use that "kevlar" head of his and try to rough Floyd up. It would be interesting....well, that is, until.....about Rd. 8.

I, too, would like to see Khan vs. Bradley, IN England. Negotiate for some U.K. "bread" and potentially pick up a victory.
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 08:21 AM) *
That's not enough time to get the finances set for a Mayweather ppv. March? Cmon now you got to line up sponsors, press tour, undercard and that would require GB to negotiate quickly with Tim. It's just not going to work

I do believe he is more deserving of a fight with Mayweather then any of the current options but his involvement with Arum makes this fight a non starter until he leaves....and if they were to ever fight I got Floyd by UD, speed kills and Floyd will frustrate Bradley with his pinpoint accuracy

In no way would I pick Bradley to beat Mayweather, but I do believe it will be an interesting matchup. The fight doesn't have to take place in May, that should be for Danny Garcia, he should fight Tim in September. I am wholly against May fight Khan under any circumstances.
daprofessor
I thought JMM was the most deserving but we all know he didn't want it. Since Tim beat him, he takes his spot IMO. Then Danny Garcia is the next worthy opponent. Doesn't matter who Floyd fights. He's going to get paid. How would a fight against an undefeated not sell???
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 14 2013, 12:01 PM) *
I thought JMM was the most deserving but we all know he didn't want it. Since Tim beat him, he takes his spot IMO. Then Danny Garcia is the next worthy opponent. Doesn't matter who Floyd fights. He's going to get paid. How would a fight against an undefeated not sell???

That means Floyd would have a chance to take 2 0s in one calender season. Which would be remarkable. If he took Danny's and Tim's O that would be something. Both are sellers.
daprofessor
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 14 2013, 03:04 PM) *
That means Floyd would have a chance to take 2 0s in one calender season. Which would be remarkable. If he took Danny's and Tim's O that would be something. Both are sellers.


Very remarkable.
Dolimite
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 14 2013, 12:07 PM) *
Very remarkable.

Has anyone in boxing's history done that before, taken 2 0's in one calender year? That would mean the last three opponents Mayweather would face would be undefeated. Wow.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 14 2013, 12:56 PM) *
I'm with Mrchitown. That seems like a super short turnaround. Not to mention, while Bradley beat Marquez, he didn't exactly boost his popularity. It wasn't a very entertaining fight. I can see Gb welcoming Tim with open arms but saying "whoa whoa whoa...we have a host of guys at 140-147 pushing for a shot at Floyd." This would be a perfect time to implement a tournament. Everyone can eat. I would really like to see Bradley vs Garcia or Broner.

I also don't get where this idea that Bradley is cemented in as the undisputed #3 P4P fighter in the world. Neither Marquez nor Pacquiao were in that position. He didn't dominate either fight. So I don't get how beating them guarantees him that honor lol


And that's something us Boxing fans have wanted to see for quite some time. Could you imagine a tourney at WW? And this is not a slight to TR but they don't have the fighters to keep a top boxer like Bradley unless he wants to keep riding with the king of rematches

If done right, this could be one of the classic moment in boxing history. A tourney featuring Khan Bradley, Maidana, Matthyse, Garcia, Broner...hell maybe even Ortiz comes back down to get in on it. it could be epic.
mrchitown
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 14 2013, 02:40 PM) *
I had a discussion w/ someone about 3-4 years ago and this person said, "If anyone is going to beat Floyd, it's gonna be one of these young lions, like Bradley..." I laughed at it then and halfway chuckle at it now....but I'm not LAUGHING any longer about Tim. I think his quickness could make Floyd a bit hesitant in the beginning.....however; the fact he has pillows connected to his wrists, won't keep Floyd at bay for long. I agree w/ Chi, Floyd by UD or late TKO. Bradley can be hurt and I think he'd have to be the aggressor vs. Floyd, b/c sitting on the outside, well, is like throwing the fight. He gets picked apart from out there. I think he has to use that "kevlar" head of his and try to rough Floyd up. It would be interesting....well, that is, until.....about Rd. 8.

I, too, would like to see Khan vs. Bradley, IN England. Negotiate for some U.K. "bread" and potentially pick up a victory.


Bradley doesn't get the credit he deserves from some boxing fans but he has some serious skill, but a fight with hour and Mayweather I think early on Bradley will give some problems but Floyd is very accurate and Bradley not so much. I wouldn't be shocked if a floyd caught him flush and stopped him but if I had to bet I'd say a UD for Mayweather, he's not going to counter Floyd and that will be a problem
mrchitown
QUOTE (daprofessor @ Oct 14 2013, 03:01 PM) *
I thought JMM was the most deserving but we all know he didn't want it. Since Tim beat him, he takes his spot IMO. Then Danny Garcia is the next worthy opponent. Doesn't matter who Floyd fights. He's going to get paid. How would a fight against an undefeated not sell???


Because no one connects with Bradley, to some his style isn't very pleasing and he's not a ticket seller. JMM carried that PPV but we all know Bradley carried the fight. Andre Ward doesn't sell either. They're skill is winning the fight but it's not lighting up cash registers. Bradley bombed so bad in the PPV again Manny that Arum doesn't want to make a rematch because it lost money...and the fact that Bradley may defeat him again
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Oct 14 2013, 02:56 PM) *
In no way would I pick Bradley to beat Mayweather, but I do believe it will be an interesting matchup. The fight doesn't have to take place in May, that should be for Danny Garcia, he should fight Tim in September. I am wholly against May fight Khan under any circumstances.


I wouldn't pick him to win either, Mayweather is deadly accurate and I think he frustrates Bradley and has his way with him if they fight....i'm so sick of hearing about the Khan fight, I hope bit doesn't happen....whatever happened to dude who was on here saying he talked to that knockoff coach and he said not was a done deal,...Damn dumb ass lol

If a fight could be made between the two then Bradley should be the number one option and Danny second
emd01
From the time the bell rings until the end Floyd will give Bradley a serious boxing lesson. He would dominate Bradley. This isnt a knock on Bradley either. I think Tim is a great fighter. He's just too small and not enough defense with nowhere near the ring IQ Floyd has. I'm telling you dudes. Floyd is going to coast through this Showtime deal with ease.

Too bad Tim is with TR and we will never ever get to see this fight. No way will Arum cash out on Tim instead of marketing him as the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 therefor making Tim a lil more marketable.
Jovi
I think Bradley is a very reasonable fight and even with promotional differences i think there's a chance it could still happen, but first i have 2 questions.

1- Would Mayweather be able able to do a fight on hbo even though he has the Shotime deal. Yes he has May and september already set. But why not just go to Hbo for 1 fight in January or February?....... I know its very unlikely since Mayweather fights minimally throughout the year, but if he really wants to stay active he can keep a good 4 month period between fights.

2- The only reason it could be possible is because Mayweather Promotions, with his own promotional company can he co promote with TR? This way the business side of it is set even some of his TMT fighters, actually scratch that because none of them are bringing him extra money...Since bradley isn't that big of a draw, most of the money will go to Mayweather and Arum anyway. because of them having some sort of business together it could help buildup for a potential Pacquiao clash.

If the fight does happen, i dont see any other conclusion than Mayweather destroying Bradley by KO because of Bradley feather fists. Bradleys quickness will be his only weapon but Mayweather's timing will neutralize it. I've actually been wanting this fight to happen for awhile but the only problem is that Bradley doesn't bring any money. He needs some commercials or something damn lol get this fuu on worldstar a couple times and then we have a fight.
truth
The tournament would be epic i believe bradley or thurman would win and the winn gets mayweather strictly elimination bouts. I think Bradley already wants to leave tr based on the aftermath of the manny fight i just hope he's smart enough to leave and not get tricked plus gb could market him better
BoxingStill#1
This fight makes all the sense in the world.

But I believe it should be Mays last fight...

I believe it should get to the point to where EVERYONE should demand it..

I think Bradley should wipe the entire division out..meaning the final belt holders.. Alexander, and Broaner.(if they get past their next test)

A total unification at 147 between two undefeated fighters who beat everyone put in front of them would not only draw the interest of the entire boxing community, but the world.

Especially if he can beat Broaner.... Shit that fight can still be made.. that's Mr HBO right?

I just hope the problems between these promoters don't fuck it up completely
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 03:12 PM) *
And that's something us Boxing fans have wanted to see for quite some time. Could you imagine a tourney at WW? And this is not a slight to TR but they don't have the fighters to keep a top boxer like Bradley unless he wants to keep riding with the king of rematches

If done right, this could be one of the classic moment in boxing history. A tourney featuring Khan Bradley, Maidana, Matthyse, Garcia, Broner...hell maybe even Ortiz comes back down to get in on it. it could be epic.


This year has been amazing as far as boxing goes, but this would be epic.
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 14 2013, 03:15 PM) *
Bradley doesn't get the credit he deserves from some boxing fans but he has some serious skill, but a fight with hour and Mayweather I think early on Bradley will give some problems but Floyd is very accurate and Bradley not so much. I wouldn't be shocked if a floyd caught him flush and stopped him but if I had to bet I'd say a UD for Mayweather, he's not going to counter Floyd and that will be a problem

Bradley has had all my respect. The guy trains like a football player, treats boxing like an art and as a warrior, and his diet in training is remarkable (lots of props because I know how hard that type of nutrition is).

His speed and activity would definitely trouble mayweather and he also knows how to apply smart pressure. But as others have said mayweathers accurate, and it will take its toll I suspect.

But Bradley is a dawg!!!!
Jack 1000
Bradley is the flip-side of Mayweather. Not good enough to beat him, but good enough to give him problems by boxing and moving, using angles. I don't think Tim has the chin of Floyd or the defense of Floyd, but he can give Floyd some of the boxing tools that Mayweather uses on his own opponents to make this a touch chess match. I would pick Floyd by fair split decision in a close fight, with Floyd scoring a flash knockdown as the difference in the fight.

Wouldn't it be funny if Tim fought Floyd and beat him? Controversially or not. Bradley would make a historic note by beating both fighters in the proposed superfight that never took place.

I think Tim should fight Floyd. The fight won't happen because of Arum, but if it could, why not?

Jack
Plah
Tough fight for Floyd. Tim will fare better than Cotto imo. But ultimately the lack of punching power and Floyd's accuracy will be the difference. No way Floyd TKO's Tim.
emd01
I dont think Bradley could beat Canelo.
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 14 2013, 11:41 PM) *
This year has been amazing as far as boxing goes, but this would be epic.

Bradley has had all my respect. The guy trains like a football player, treats boxing like an art and as a warrior, and his diet in training is remarkable (lots of props because I know how hard that type of nutrition is).

His speed and activity would definitely trouble mayweather and he also knows how to apply smart pressure. But as others have said mayweathers accurate, and it will take its toll I suspect.

But Bradley is a dawg!!!!


It really has, I'm hoping 2014 is an even better year....need to keep the momentum going


It sucks that somebody who puts the work in to be elite doesn't get the credit but he always had my respect. I picked against him when he fought Holt and Peterson and when he won his first title but he made me a believer. His ring IQ is underrated too. A fight between he and Mayweather Jr should be on everyone's wishlist
mrchitown
QUOTE (emd01 @ Oct 15 2013, 11:56 AM) *
I dont think Bradley could beat Canelo.


Don't be so sure of that, Canelo has problems with fighters with the ability of a Tim Bradley. Canelo should be 0-2 this year, Trout beat him imo and Mayweather Jr showed just how far Canelo had to go to get to the pinnacle of the sport. Bradley won't make himself available to be hit by Canelo, that's a difficult fight for Canelo
mrchitown
QUOTE (Plah @ Oct 15 2013, 08:27 AM) *
Tough fight for Floyd. Tim will fare better than Cotto imo. But ultimately the lack of punching power and Floyd's accuracy will be the difference. No way Floyd TKO's Tim.


Speed and accuracy kill
NoCatchweights
QUOTE (emd01 @ Oct 15 2013, 11:56 AM) *
I dont think Bradley could beat Canelo.

I would pick Canelo but Bradley can win, if that had been Canelo Saturday Bradley would have won.
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 15 2013, 01:41 PM) *
It really has, I'm hoping 2014 is an even better year....need to keep the momentum going


It sucks that somebody who puts the work in to be elite doesn't get the credit but he always had my respect. I picked against him when he fought Holt and Peterson and when he won his first title but he made me a believer. His ring IQ is underrated too. A fight between he and Mayweather Jr should be on everyone's wishlist

The holt fight basically says everything you need to know about the guy, he's a no bullshit fighter with a motor that won't quit. I won't lie I thought Peterson could have won that fight but that boy Bradley doesn't know how to lose! Lol

He's a very smart fighter.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (Jack 1000 @ Oct 15 2013, 08:47 AM) *
Bradley is the flip-side of Mayweather. Not good enough to beat him, but good enough to give him problems by boxing and moving, using angles. I don't think Tim has the chin of Floyd or the defense of Floyd, but he can give Floyd some of the boxing tools that Mayweather uses on his own opponents to make this a touch chess match. I would pick Floyd by fair split decision in a close fight, with Floyd scoring a flash knockdown as the difference in the fight.

Wouldn't it be funny if Tim fought Floyd and beat him? Controversially or not. Bradley would make a historic note by beating both fighters in the proposed superfight that never took place.

I think Tim should fight Floyd. The fight won't happen because of Arum, but if it could, why not?

Jack


Gotta disagree w/ you there, Jack, a.k.a. FH Yoda. I don't think it's a SD and if May can flash knock him down, it's game on. To offset that "flash knockdown", Tim will likely have to be more aggressive (not the guy you wanna trail). I like Tim, but let's not get enamored w/ what he does against a stationary targets. Early on, I'll admit, it will be interesting, but as that fight goes on, there will be nothing "split" about that fight, other than Bradley's wig. He throws waaaay too wide at times and Floyd, like a batter, is sittin' on fastballs. Let's not forget Floyd's 72" reach compared to Tim's 69". I think it'll be interesting early on and Bradley will have his moments. However, that "I will die in the ring" mentality that likes to show up briefly, may get his "on" switch turned off.
checkleft
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 15 2013, 06:55 PM) *
Gotta disagree w/ you there, Jack, a.k.a. FH Yoda. I don't think it's a SD and if May can flash knock him down, it's game on. To offset that "flash knockdown", Tim will likely have to be more aggressive (not the guy you wanna trail). I like Tim, but let's not get enamored w/ what he does against a stationary targets. Early on, I'll admit, it will be interesting, but as that fight goes on, there will be nothing "split" about that fight, other than Bradley's wig. He throws waaaay too wide at times and Floyd, like a batter, is sittin' on fastballs. Let's not forget Floyd's 72" reach compared to Tim's 69". I think it'll be interesting early on and Bradley will have his moments. However, that "I will die in the ring" mentality that likes to show up briefly, may get his "on" switch turned off.

Good breakdown bro
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 15 2013, 01:23 PM) *
The holt fight basically says everything you need to know about the guy, he's a no bullshit fighter with a motor that won't quit. I won't lie I thought Peterson could have won that fight but that boy Bradley doesn't know how to lose! Lol

He's a very smart fighter.


Yes he is, his ring IQ is impressive. When Holt hit him I didn't think he would get up but he did and then he dominated the fight after that
mrchitown
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 15 2013, 05:55 PM) *
Gotta disagree w/ you there, Jack, a.k.a. FH Yoda. I don't think it's a SD and if May can flash knock him down, it's game on. To offset that "flash knockdown", Tim will likely have to be more aggressive (not the guy you wanna trail). I like Tim, but let's not get enamored w/ what he does against a stationary targets. Early on, I'll admit, it will be interesting, but as that fight goes on, there will be nothing "split" about that fight, other than Bradley's wig. He throws waaaay too wide at times and Floyd, like a batter, is sittin' on fastballs. Let's not forget Floyd's 72" reach compared to Tim's 69". I think it'll be interesting early on and Bradley will have his moments. However, that "I will die in the ring" mentality that likes to show up briefly, may get his "on" switch turned off.


That's why I'm laughing at those who think he won't be stopped, speed and accuracy can put you out just as much as punching power. Mayweather has deceptive power and is very strong. What I've noticed in all Bradley fights is that he gets sloppy at times and if you punch with him you can get him in trouble. If Mayweather punches with him with those fast shots and that accuracy, he'll be staring up at the MGM lights...he more then likely will get up but Diaz would have to save him from himself
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 15 2013, 07:50 PM) *
That's why I'm laughing at those who think he won't be stopped, speed and accuracy can put you out just as much as punching power. Mayweather has deceptive power and is very strong. What I've noticed in all Bradley fights is that he gets sloppy at times and if you punch with him you can get him in trouble. If Mayweather punches with him with those fast shots and that accuracy, he'll be staring up at the MGM lights...he more then likely will get up but Diaz would have to save him from himself

Diaz is gonna have to do it sooner or later, Bradley has no quit in him.
bnoles4life
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 15 2013, 07:50 PM) *
That's why I'm laughing at those who think he won't be stopped, speed and accuracy can put you out just as much as punching power. Mayweather has deceptive power and is very strong. What I've noticed in all Bradley fights is that he gets sloppy at times and if you punch with him you can get him in trouble. If Mayweather punches with him with those fast shots and that accuracy, he'll be staring up at the MGM lights...he more then likely will get up but Diaz would have to save him from himself


Word life, Chi. I like Bradley...I really do (pause) and I'm not being a "Prisoner of the Moment" as it pertains to Floyd, but outside of those early rounds, I don't see where the difficulty lies w/n Bradley's style for Floyd. Bradley does NOTHING....I repeat NOTHING better than Floyd in that ring. Bradley is quick, but he's quick against not so quick fighters....that "mess" he'd be in w/ Mr. 45-0 is like getting a Bachelor's at FAMU, but applying to Harvard for grad school: WHOLE 'nother education to altogether. Some shit, you no one can tell you about....you just gotta see for yourself. He does punch wide, which I mentioned earlier and he throws a clubbing overhand right and against Floyd? Uggggggh. Bradley's "will" is undeniable, but it will be trumped by a guy who can match that will (and likely then some) and best him in the skillz dept.
mrchitown
QUOTE (bnoles4life @ Oct 15 2013, 07:22 PM) *
Word life, Chi. I like Bradley...I really do (pause) and I'm not being a "Prisoner of the Moment" as it pertains to Floyd, but outside of those early rounds, I don't see where the difficulty lies w/n Bradley's style for Floyd. Bradley does NOTHING....I repeat NOTHING better than Floyd in that ring. Bradley is quick, but he's quick against not so quick fighters....that "mess" he'd be in w/ Mr. 45-0 is like getting a Bachelor's at FAMU, but applying to Harvard for grad school: WHOLE 'nother education to altogether. Some shit, you no one can tell you about....you just gotta see for yourself. He does punch wide, which I mentioned earlier and he throws a clubbing overhand right and against Floyd? Uggggggh. Bradley's "will" is undeniable, but it will be trumped by a guy who can match that will (and likely then some) and best him in the skillz dept.


Good analogy

The casuals may not eat this fight up due to their barbaric nature and lack of appreciation for the sweet science but it truly is a great fight if it were ever to come to fruition. As always, people will point to Floyd's age and wonder if Bradley can be the one to dethrone him but I see Mayweather as just too crafty and too skilled for Tim. And that's saying a lot because Tim is a highly skilled fighter himself
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Oct 15 2013, 06:59 PM) *
Diaz is gonna have to do it sooner or later, Bradley has no quit in him.


True, Tim is one of the dudes you have to save from himself
emd01
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 15 2013, 09:44 AM) *
Don't be so sure of that, Canelo has problems with fighters with the ability of a Tim Bradley. Canelo should be 0-2 this year, Trout beat him imo and Mayweather Jr showed just how far Canelo had to go to get to the pinnacle of the sport. Bradley won't make himself available to be hit by Canelo, that's a difficult fight for Canelo

Floyd does that to everyone laugh.gif . I think Canelo would stop Bradley. He'd catch Tim hurt him and follow up which the kid is good at doing. If he gets Bradley doing the stanky leg at anytime during the fight its over. The kid wont let him off the hook and lets be honest...Bradley doesnt land those "make your head look up at the lights" type punches so no way he'd keep the kid off of him. Just my opinion and theyre like assholes so...
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