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Kratza
For real I don't think his undefeated streak will last much longer, while he's out partying, drinking and doing whatever the fuck he so, Maidana is training like a machine don't hold me to my word but I wouldn't be surprised if Maidana knocks this kid out and even if Maidana doesn't have what it takes how long will it be if Broner does carry on with his antics before he faces a guy who don't play around and will beat him.. It might be a good lesson for him if he loses though

You can't play boxing... It's NOT a game
Franchize
The moment he loses, every racist in the world is going to smile the cheesiest smile that has ever been on their hating ass face laugh.gif You already know there are a bunch of people just waiting and hoping and saying "I can't wait till somebody knocks that loud mouth nigger out. We may not be able to get to Floyd but this motherfucker is going down."
flazi
you might think he is out partying and carrying on but believe me he is training hard. Haymon not letting this guy just party it up. Those videos and all is just publicity stunts. this guy knows whats up and that boxing is his only way of making money.
mrchitown
How many threads do we need of this same stale ass topic? Like seriously? People need to quit with this shit, no pro athlete does their sport 24/7, everyone needs a break. Stop watching them sensationalized ESPN 30 for 30's and wakeup....Now I agree that he won't go undefeated, I've said as much before but to think it's because he doesn't train or work hard is beyond comprehension. You don't get to the level he's at without training and working hard. None of his detractors have been anywhere near his camp

It's sad people feel the need to make this dumbass claims based off assumptions yet ignore history. Clay/Ali, Tyson, Hearns, SRL, let's fast forward to present day..Mayweather still parties. Sure he doesn't smoke or drink but he's still out. Danny Garcia does it. His pops recently did an interview saying he has to rein him in from that stuff. But I don't see no threads about that. Hypocrisy at it's best. If Danny loses is it because he was doing x,y, and z? Maybe just maybe the other guy was better then him. That's a built in excuse, first Maidana might KO him but if he doesn't how long will it b e til he loses? lol stupid stuff.

The effect Broner wanted has worked, the same thing that haters do to Mayweather, haters are doing to Broner. And it all means one thing....$$. I think if and when Adrien loses it's probably going to be someone whose just has his number. Is that guy Maidana? It could be but I don't believe so and I'll tell you why. He's slow footed and he's slow period. Robert Garcia has done some good work with him, making him work the jab and be patient without going for the kill. But Maidana is who he is. You can see his punches coming a mile away. And the body don't lie, Broner hits hard too, and we've seen this man get dropped from body shots. I think Broner will go undefeated for quite some time, we will see what he has when that athleticism starts to slip. His ring IQ is underrated imo
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 30 2013, 03:09 PM) *
The moment he loses, every racist in the world is going to smile the cheesiest smile that has ever been on their hating ass face laugh.gif You already know there are a bunch of people just waiting and hoping and saying "I can't wait till somebody knocks that loud mouth nigger out. We may not be able to get to Floyd but this motherfucker is going down."


That's how it usually goes..I used to give people the benefit of the doubt but most are stupid like that. They did it throughout boxing's history..Jack Johnson, Joe Louis had to play good ol boy and they still busted him out. Ali, then after Ali it was Tyson, then after Tyson it was Mayweather Jr, and now it's him and Broner. They don't accept the n**** til he loses, they have to be humbled for these dickheads to show them love
BoxingEinstein

Broner is a supreme talent and his potential is vast. I think he is a hard worker as his coach, the former US national trainer of the year and regarded Mike Stafford quoted to say. Broner has all the tools to beat Maidana but his grit, heart,will to win, and chin will be tested. Broner by TKO 11th
checkleft
QUOTE (Kratza @ Oct 30 2013, 03:05 PM) *
For real I don't think his undefeated streak will last much longer, while he's out partying, drinking and doing whatever the fuck he so, Maidana is training like a machine don't hold me to my word but I wouldn't be surprised if Maidana knocks this kid out and even if Maidana doesn't have what it takes how long will it be if Broner does carry on with his antics before he faces a guy who don't play around and will beat him.. It might be a good lesson for him if he loses though

You can't play boxing... It's NOT a game

You know what you just did right?...

Countdown to a fucked up Sig bet has begun
BoxingStill#1
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 30 2013, 04:42 PM) *
How many threads do we need of this same stale ass topic? Like seriously? People need to quit with this shit, no pro athlete does their sport 24/7, everyone needs a break. Stop watching them sensationalized ESPN 30 for 30's and wakeup....Now I agree that he won't go undefeated, I've said as much before but to think it's because he doesn't train or work hard is beyond comprehension. You don't get to the level he's at without training and working hard. None of his detractors have been anywhere near his camp

It's sad people feel the need to make this dumbass claims based off assumptions yet ignore history. Clay/Ali, Tyson, Hearns, SRL, let's fast forward to present day..Mayweather still parties. Sure he doesn't smoke or drink but he's still out. Danny Garcia does it. His pops recently did an interview saying he has to rein him in from that stuff. But I don't see no threads about that. Hypocrisy at it's best. If Danny loses is it because he was doing x,y, and z? Maybe just maybe the other guy was better then him. That's a built in excuse, first Maidana might KO him but if he doesn't how long will it b e til he loses? lol stupid stuff.

The effect Broner wanted has worked, the same thing that haters do to Mayweather, haters are doing to Broner. And it all means one thing....$$. I think if and when Adrien loses it's probably going to be someone whose just has his number. Is that guy Maidana? It could be but I don't believe so and I'll tell you why. He's slow footed and he's slow period. Robert Garcia has done some good work with him, making him work the jab and be patient without going for the kill. But Maidana is who he is. You can see his punches coming a mile away. And the body don't lie, Broner hits hard too, and we've seen this man get dropped from body shots. I think Broner will go undefeated for quite some time, we will see what he has when that athleticism starts to slip. His ring IQ is underrated imo


Well put. Though I see defeat in his future also, its not because his antics or what he does outside a boxing ring..

But his hitability, plus the higher weight class
bnoles4life
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 30 2013, 04:42 PM) *
How many threads do we need of this same stale ass topic? Like seriously? People need to quit with this shit, no pro athlete does their sport 24/7, everyone needs a break. Stop watching them sensationalized ESPN 30 for 30's and wakeup....Now I agree that he won't go undefeated, I've said as much before but to think it's because he doesn't train or work hard is beyond comprehension. You don't get to the level he's at without training and working hard. None of his detractors have been anywhere near his camp

It's sad people feel the need to make this dumbass claims based off assumptions yet ignore history. Clay/Ali, Tyson, Hearns, SRL, let's fast forward to present day..Mayweather still parties. Sure he doesn't smoke or drink but he's still out. Danny Garcia does it. His pops recently did an interview saying he has to rein him in from that stuff. But I don't see no threads about that. Hypocrisy at it's best. If Danny loses is it because he was doing x,y, and z? Maybe just maybe the other guy was better then him. That's a built in excuse, first Maidana might KO him but if he doesn't how long will it b e til he loses? lol stupid stuff.

The effect Broner wanted has worked, the same thing that haters do to Mayweather, haters are doing to Broner. And it all means one thing....$$. I think if and when Adrien loses it's probably going to be someone whose just has his number. Is that guy Maidana? It could be but I don't believe so and I'll tell you why. He's slow footed and he's slow period. Robert Garcia has done some good work with him, making him work the jab and be patient without going for the kill. But Maidana is who he is. You can see his punches coming a mile away. And the body don't lie, Broner hits hard too, and we've seen this man get dropped from body shots. I think Broner will go undefeated for quite some time, we will see what he has when that athleticism starts to slip. His ring IQ is underrated imo


BAM!!!!
truth
With broner i think his out of the ring antics will catch up with and i agree that it cant be boxing 24 7 however during training there should be nothing else but boxing because it will catch up to you to me if you want to reach a certain plateau you dedicate yourself to that which is why guys like ward bhop and floyd have a elite status is one thing to be around something it's another to be involved in the activity this fight with maidana is a big test in my opinion because of his power i believe he will be in top shape and if broner loses stamina he could get ko'd but i think broner skills and ring iq will carry him unless he loses a step.


mrchitown
QUOTE (BoxingStill#1 @ Oct 30 2013, 06:27 PM) *
Well put. Though I see defeat in his future also, its not because his antics or what he does outside a boxing ring..

But his hitability, plus the higher weight class


This right here, man this is the truth. You can't pattern yourself after Mayweather jr and you have medicore at best, defense. He's young so he has a chance to improve in that regard but he better get started because he got touched up pretty good in both his fights this year. Plus he's only 5'6. He's a stocky dude but since he moved up to welter, he's kinda outgunned as far as height and weight. And that may present a problem. If he loses it will be because of his lack of defense and the person in the ring with him that night may just be better...Maidana certainly going to test his durability and that chin

And as far as the out of the ring stuff, he's been training for weeks now lol...if anyone kept up with him even somewhat they'd of seen that. He's already on weight which isn't bad because his walk around weight is in the 150's

Lebron party his ass off, same thing with D. Rose, Kevin Durant, James Harden and all them dudes. Everytime it's a game in town the opposite team goes out the night before to party. That whole catchup shit is a myth with no basis. Them dudes compete in 82 game seasons and hit clubs up like it's the mall. Same with football players. There's no truth to him supposedly living it up coming back to bite him. It ain't bit Mayweather
BoxingEinstein
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 01:24 AM) *
This right here, man this is the truth. You can't pattern yourself after Mayweather jr and you have medicore at best, defense. He's young so he has a chance to improve in that regard but he better get started because he got touched up pretty good in both his fights this year. Plus he's only 5'6. He's a stocky dude but since he moved up to welter, he's kinda outgunned as far as height and weight. And that may present a problem. If he loses it will be because of his lack of defense and the person in the ring with him that night may just be better...Maidana certainly going to test his durability and that chin

And as far as the out of the ring stuff, he's been training for weeks now lol...if anyone kept up with him even somewhat they'd of seen that. He's already on weight which isn't bad because his walk around weight is in the 150's

Lebron party his ass off, same thing with D. Rose, Kevin Durant, James Harden and all them dudes. Everytime it's a game in town the opposite team goes out the night before to party. That whole catchup shit is a myth with no basis. Them dudes compete in 82 game seasons and hit clubs up like it's the mall. Same with football players. There's no truth to him supposedly living it up coming back to bite him. It ain't bit Mayweather

Mayweather is a true athlete and takes his sport serious. It is widely known that he doesn't "party" just does it for media purposes. If you foul up your body then it will catch up with you. I respect guys like Mayweather and Hopkins, two true professionals in a sport where these young guys don't take it but so serious.
mrchitown
QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 31 2013, 01:54 AM) *
Mayweather is a true athlete and takes his sport serious. It is widely known that he doesn't "party" just does it for media purposes. If you foul up your body then it will catch up with you. I respect guys like Mayweather and Hopkins, two true professionals in a sport where these young guys don't take it but so serious.


Man that's a sorry ass excuse and I'm sick of people using that shit. Many athletes take their sport serious and "party" as you and other detractors say. Broner is a walking publicity stunt much the same way Mayweather is. I find it so funny how it's so many smart dumb people walking around who don't see that. He copied the whole style, the whole damn thing but many choose to ignore it much the way you chose to glance over the fact that I brought up arguably the best athlete in the world in Lebron who gets it all the way in. Shit, Dwayne Wade be killing the club scene. Danny Garcia pops has to run behind him when he in the club because he likes to be seen and party according to his pops. Where's the thread or outcry over what he's doing?

It ain't nothing but hypocrisy and like I said that shit you and others spitting is a myth. Everybody not the same, people's bodies respond differently. Me personally, I'm a night owl but some of my college teammates couldn't hang. I'd be with a select few like me and club hard and we'd get up hours later and go practice or go to our track meet and kill the competition. Now some of my teammates knew that they weren't like that. So they didn't do it. An athletes regimen is their own. It you can deal with it then that's fine but if you struggle with it then that's a problem and he like Danny, has shown no signs of having a issue with it. So there's no need to even keep bringing this myth up

If he loses it ain't gon have shit to do with nothing you talking about, his defensive liabilities are his biggest issue. Gain Rees, i think that's his name, was touching Adrien and I believe Adrien gets hit with shots he actually shouldn't get hit with. When you getting punched in the face I think you take it serious enough. He actually has more in ring issues to fix then out but people so stuck on stuff that's not there they can't see past the things they putting out
KSUN247
Broner will outbox Maidana. He makes mistakes defensively and it allows him to get a little too often. However, because he can box and Maidana is slow as molasses, Broner should be able to easily outbox him. Broner is a showman and will want to put on a boxing clinic. I do want to see if he can take a legit WW punch, cause Paulie definitely can't punch. Maidana can punch, but his punches are so telegraphed. Broner should be able to see them coming. With this fight being moved off PPV and put on Showtime, Broner may want to up the stakes and show why he should be on PPV. We'll have to wait and see.

His outside the rings antics are somewhat foolish, but he's just trying to be funny or the center of attention. He knows what he's doing. Hopefully, he gets the desired effect and that is to have people talk about him. If they do that, more than likely when he's on PPV, folks will pay to see him win or lose, just like Floyd. Only time will tell, if he's the truth. I like him because he can box, but some of the things he does can be a little over the top (strip club incident, flushing money down the toilet, leaking a so-called sex tape, etc.). Hoping for a great night of boxing when him and Maidana finally get in the ring.
Franchize
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 03:55 AM) *
Man that's a sorry ass excuse and I'm sick of people using that shit. Many athletes take their sport serious and "party" as you and other detractors say. Broner is a walking publicity stunt much the same way Mayweather is.

Gotta disagree slightly here. Floyd parties and does appearances. Shit, he just did one around my way. That said, when do you see Floyd drunk, smokin trees and getting fat between fights?

Cshel86
Adrien "Bone'her"

If he ever has a career-ending injury, he can always do porn...which it seems that he's trying his hand at nowadays.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 31 2013, 12:30 PM) *
Gotta disagree slightly here. Floyd parties and does appearances. Shit, he just did one around my way. That said, when do you see Floyd drunk, smokin trees and getting fat between fights?


I think you should've stayed out of it because you don't even know wtf your disagreeing with lol. When I said pr stunt in meant the way they go about their boxing careers. First floyd said it's may per view and then this dude said that dumb ass shit about AB view lmao. Or when they do interviews. You can never taken either one seriously because they so full of shit you don't know if they're telling the truth. Broner copied Floyd's whole shtick and it's working

I know about appearances chief so no need to explain that but what you forgetting is the fact that Adrien is only 23. He's still a kid in a way. This is why I say it's hypocrisy. I mentioned Danny Garcia who frequents clubs on the regular but we still talking about what Adrien doing. Some of yall lying if you say you weren't doing the same thing at his age and you a damn liar if you think Mayweather wasn't in the club heavy when he was his age. Constantly going out to those types of venues takes a toll too. I don't drink or smoke either as I find it rather disgusting but to each his own. For any athlete I wouldn't advise it but if you dumb enough to do it that's on you

Broner does appearances too. Showtime just sponsored some party for him last week that's supposed to be apart of an all access they doing on him or the fight. All athletes do appearances but those things can catch up to you so that's a moot point. Never mind the fact that the dude was on the biggest tour of the summer as far as hip hop and he was getting paid even though he can't rap for shit. Never mind the fact that he's been in training camp for almost a month and training period since early September. Idk if it's jealousy, hate or just plain stupidity but the things you and others are spewing is pure bs. The kid is 23, some of yall older and still fuck up. I bet if we was to post pics it would be a lot of outta shape dudes on here lol. It's plenty of boxers who do the same yet the focus is only on this young man. Everybody a hypocrite about something but damn not usually this obvious
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 31 2013, 12:59 PM) *
Adrien "Bone'her"

If he ever has a career-ending injury, he can always do porn...which it seems that he's trying his hand at nowadays.


You just keep swaggin that avi and continue to let that boy cook lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 02:03 PM) *
You just keep swaggin that avi and continue to let that boy cook lol

Broner's cookin', I cant say shit!

I know one thing, if he steals the "Bone'her" stage name, then that'll be another check that Im gonna look for in the mail. Lol
Franchize
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 02:02 PM) *
I think you should've stayed out of it because you don't even know wtf your disagreeing with lol. When I said pr stunt in meant the way they go about their boxing careers. First floyd said it's may per view and then this dude said that dumb ass shit about AB view lmao. Or when they do interviews. You can never taken either one seriously because they so full of shit you don't know if they're telling the truth. Broner copied Floyd's whole shtick and it's working

I know about appearances chief so no need to explain that but what you forgetting is the fact that Adrien is only 23. He's still a kid in a way. This is why I say it's hypocrisy. I mentioned Danny Garcia who frequents clubs on the regular but we still talking about what Adrien doing. Some of yall lying if you say you weren't doing the same thing at his age and you a damn liar if you think Mayweather wasn't in the club heavy when he was his age. Constantly going out to those types of venues takes a toll too. I don't drink or smoke either as I find it rather disgusting but to each his own. For any athlete I wouldn't advise it but if you dumb enough to do it that's on you

Broner does appearances too. Showtime just sponsored some party for him last week that's supposed to be apart of an all access they doing on him or the fight. All athletes do appearances but those things can catch up to you so that's a moot point. Never mind the fact that the dude was on the biggest tour of the summer as far as hip hop and he was getting paid even though he can't rap for shit. Never mind the fact that he's been in training camp for almost a month and training period since early September. Idk if it's jealousy, hate or just plain stupidity but the things you and others are spewing is pure bs. The kid is 23, some of yall older and still fuck up. I bet if we was to post pics it would be a lot of outta shape dudes on here lol. It's plenty of boxers who do the same yet the focus is only on this young man. Everybody a hypocrite about something but damn not usually this obvious


Actually it's YOU who is mistaken because I didn't say anything about him going clubbing. I simply disagreed with the fact that they go out in the same way. Yes, I did go out to clubs when I was younger. And yes I am out of shape. Last time I checked, I work in an office. I'm not trying to be a prize fighter. Not exactly getting where you are going with this. And no...I've never smoked a day in my life (especially when I was an athlete) You should watch your words before you call someone stupid, a hater or jealous. Nevr once did I say Floyd doesn't club heavy. He was in my area clubbing the other day (as I mentioned before). A club is a building. It's what you're doing in the club that is the difference. I simply said him clubbing and Floyd clubbing is different because he's smoking trees, drinking and out of shape. Danny Garcia too. The reason I mentioned Adrien Broner....hmm. Let's see. For starters. The thread's topic is...Adrien Broner. rolleyes_anim.gif Anyway, continue. As you said, I will "let him cook." I actually think Adrien Broner is a good fighter. I don't hate on him at all so I don't know where all this "jealousy and hatred" you speak of is coming from. I just think he seems a bit out of focus. As is Danny Garcia at times. Your father should never have to babysit your actions as an adult. Especially if you are a world champion.
BoxingEinstein
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 03:55 AM) *
Man that's a sorry ass excuse and I'm sick of people using that shit. Many athletes take their sport serious and "party" as you and other detractors say. Broner is a walking publicity stunt much the same way Mayweather is. I find it so funny how it's so many smart dumb people walking around who don't see that. He copied the whole style, the whole damn thing but many choose to ignore it much the way you chose to glance over the fact that I brought up arguably the best athlete in the world in Lebron who gets it all the way in. Shit, Dwayne Wade be killing the club scene. Danny Garcia pops has to run behind him when he in the club because he likes to be seen and party according to his pops. Where's the thread or outcry over what he's doing?

It ain't nothing but hypocrisy and like I said that shit you and others spitting is a myth. Everybody not the same, people's bodies respond differently. Me personally, I'm a night owl but some of my college teammates couldn't hang. I'd be with a select few like me and club hard and we'd get up hours later and go practice or go to our track meet and kill the competition. Now some of my teammates knew that they weren't like that. So they didn't do it. An athletes regimen is their own. It you can deal with it then that's fine but if you struggle with it then that's a problem and he like Danny, has shown no signs of having a issue with it. So there's no need to even keep bringing this myth up

If he loses it ain't gon have shit to do with nothing you talking about, his defensive liabilities are his biggest issue. Gain Rees, i think that's his name, was touching Adrien and I believe Adrien gets hit with shots he actually shouldn't get hit with. When you getting punched in the face I think you take it serious enough. He actually has more in ring issues to fix then out but people so stuck on stuff that's not there they can't see past the things they putting out

Obviously you're not high on Broner but nonetheless it's a blueprint that we all know that Floyd used to get bigger pay days and boost his image. The casuals was not supporting Floyd when he was considered classy, respectful and humble when he was younger plus more aggressive. Broner is doing the smart thing unfortunately his likability as a person will drop. If more people actually understood and appreciate the sweet science then boxers like Ward, Broner, and Floyd wouldn't have to step out of their comfort zone just to sell fights.
BoxingEinstein
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 03:55 AM) *
Man that's a sorry ass excuse and I'm sick of people using that shit. Many athletes take their sport serious and "party" as you and other detractors say. Broner is a walking publicity stunt much the same way Mayweather is. I find it so funny how it's so many smart dumb people walking around who don't see that. He copied the whole style, the whole damn thing but many choose to ignore it much the way you chose to glance over the fact that I brought up arguably the best athlete in the world in Lebron who gets it all the way in. Shit, Dwayne Wade be killing the club scene. Danny Garcia pops has to run behind him when he in the club because he likes to be seen and party according to his pops. Where's the thread or outcry over what he's doing?

It ain't nothing but hypocrisy and like I said that shit you and others spitting is a myth. Everybody not the same, people's bodies respond differently. Me personally, I'm a night owl but some of my college teammates couldn't hang. I'd be with a select few like me and club hard and we'd get up hours later and go practice or go to our track meet and kill the competition. Now some of my teammates knew that they weren't like that. So they didn't do it. An athletes regimen is their own. It you can deal with it then that's fine but if you struggle with it then that's a problem and he like Danny, has shown no signs of having a issue with it. So there's no need to even keep bringing this myth up

If he loses it ain't gon have shit to do with nothing you talking about, his defensive liabilities are his biggest issue. Gain Rees, i think that's his name, was touching Adrien and I believe Adrien gets hit with shots he actually shouldn't get hit with. When you getting punched in the face I think you take it serious enough. He actually has more in ring issues to fix then out but people so stuck on stuff that's not there they can't see past the things they putting out

Obviously you're not high on Broner but nonetheless it's a blueprint that we all know that Floyd used to get bigger pay days and boost his image. The casuals was not supporting Floyd when he was considered classy, respectful and humble when he was younger plus more aggressive. Broner is doing the smart thing unfortunately his likability as a person will drop. If more people actually understood and appreciate the sweet science then boxers like Ward, Broner, and Floyd wouldn't have to step out of their comfort zone just to sell fights.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 02:02 PM) *
I think you should've stayed out of it because you don't even know wtf your disagreeing with lol. When I said pr stunt in meant the way they go about their boxing careers. First floyd said it's may per view and then this dude said that dumb ass shit about AB view lmao. Or when they do interviews. You can never taken either one seriously because they so full of shit you don't know if they're telling the truth. Broner copied Floyd's whole shtick and it's working

I know about appearances chief so no need to explain that but what you forgetting is the fact that Adrien is only 23. He's still a kid in a way. This is why I say it's hypocrisy. I mentioned Danny Garcia who frequents clubs on the regular but we still talking about what Adrien doing. Some of yall lying if you say you weren't doing the same thing at his age and you a damn liar if you think Mayweather wasn't in the club heavy when he was his age. Constantly going out to those types of venues takes a toll too. I don't drink or smoke either as I find it rather disgusting but to each his own. For any athlete I wouldn't advise it but if you dumb enough to do it that's on you

Broner does appearances too. Showtime just sponsored some party for him last week that's supposed to be apart of an all access they doing on him or the fight. All athletes do appearances but those things can catch up to you so that's a moot point. Never mind the fact that the dude was on the biggest tour of the summer as far as hip hop and he was getting paid even though he can't rap for shit. Never mind the fact that he's been in training camp for almost a month and training period since early September. Idk if it's jealousy, hate or just plain stupidity but the things you and others are spewing is pure bs. The kid is 23, some of yall older and still fuck up. I bet if we was to post pics it would be a lot of outta shape dudes on here lol. It's plenty of boxers who do the same yet the focus is only on this young man. Everybody a hypocrite about something but damn not usually this obvious

I'll let yall have this one, but I will pose the mighty question...just how long are we gonna use his age as an excuse for some of the things that he does? I agree with what you said about people being older than him, and STILL fucking up, but at some point, we all have to be accountable for what we do. I wouldn't doubt in my mind that some/most of these fighters/athletes do the same stuff that he does, but the publicizing issue, is what I believe, truly makes people scratch their heads.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 30 2013, 03:42 PM) *
How many threads do we need of this same stale ass topic? Like seriously? People need to quit with this shit, no pro athlete does their sport 24/7, everyone needs a break. Stop watching them sensationalized ESPN 30 for 30's and wakeup....Now I agree that he won't go undefeated, I've said as much before but to think it's because he doesn't train or work hard is beyond comprehension. You don't get to the level he's at without training and working hard. None of his detractors have been anywhere near his camp

It's sad people feel the need to make this dumbass claims based off assumptions yet ignore history. Clay/Ali, Tyson, Hearns, SRL, let's fast forward to present day..Mayweather still parties. Sure he doesn't smoke or drink but he's still out. Danny Garcia does it. His pops recently did an interview saying he has to rein him in from that stuff. But I don't see no threads about that. Hypocrisy at it's best. If Danny loses is it because he was doing x,y, and z? Maybe just maybe the other guy was better then him. That's a built in excuse, first Maidana might KO him but if he doesn't how long will it b e til he loses? lol stupid stuff.

The effect Broner wanted has worked, the same thing that haters do to Mayweather, haters are doing to Broner. And it all means one thing....$$. I think if and when Adrien loses it's probably going to be someone whose just has his number. Is that guy Maidana? It could be but I don't believe so and I'll tell you why. He's slow footed and he's slow period. Robert Garcia has done some good work with him, making him work the jab and be patient without going for the kill. But Maidana is who he is. You can see his punches coming a mile away. And the body don't lie, Broner hits hard too, and we've seen this man get dropped from body shots. I think Broner will go undefeated for quite some time, we will see what he has when that athleticism starts to slip. His ring IQ is underrated imo


word. let that boy cook.

people forget that srl was partying with magic, arsenio hall, johnny gill in the 80's having orgies in those mansion parties.
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 02:55 AM) *
Man that's a sorry ass excuse and I'm sick of people using that shit. Many athletes take their sport serious and "party" as you and other detractors say. Broner is a walking publicity stunt much the same way Mayweather is. I find it so funny how it's so many smart dumb people walking around who don't see that. He copied the whole style, the whole damn thing but many choose to ignore it much the way you chose to glance over the fact that I brought up arguably the best athlete in the world in Lebron who gets it all the way in. Shit, Dwayne Wade be killing the club scene. Danny Garcia pops has to run behind him when he in the club because he likes to be seen and party according to his pops. Where's the thread or outcry over what he's doing?

It ain't nothing but hypocrisy and like I said that shit you and others spitting is a myth. Everybody not the same, people's bodies respond differently. Me personally, I'm a night owl but some of my college teammates couldn't hang. I'd be with a select few like me and club hard and we'd get up hours later and go practice or go to our track meet and kill the competition. Now some of my teammates knew that they weren't like that. So they didn't do it. An athletes regimen is their own. It you can deal with it then that's fine but if you struggle with it then that's a problem and he like Danny, has shown no signs of having a issue with it. So there's no need to even keep bringing this myth up

If he loses it ain't gon have shit to do with nothing you talking about, his defensive liabilities are his biggest issue. Gain Rees, i think that's his name, was touching Adrien and I believe Adrien gets hit with shots he actually shouldn't get hit with. When you getting punched in the face I think you take it serious enough. He actually has more in ring issues to fix then out but people so stuck on stuff that's not there they can't see past the things they putting out


didn't Jordan go out a night before a playoff game?
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QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Oct 31 2013, 02:42 PM) *
word. let that boy cook.

people forget that srl was partying with magic, arsenio hall, johnny gill in the 80's having orgies in those manision parties.

Now they were cookin...
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Oct 31 2013, 02:50 PM) *
didn't Jordan go out a night before a playoff game?


Hell yeah he did, many times. Look at what Rodman did and he was out literally every night. Drinking smoking and screwing chick's. that whole lifestyle thing as it pertains to being social is a myth and I hate when people use it. Every athlete is different from the next
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Oct 31 2013, 02:42 PM) *
word. let that boy cook.

people forget that srl was partying with magic, arsenio hall, johnny gill in the 80's having orgies in those manision parties.


I forgot about that too, SRZL was doing his thing and building his legacy one fight at a time in the process
mrchitown
QUOTE (BoxingEinstein @ Oct 31 2013, 01:43 PM) *
Obviously you're not high on Broner but nonetheless it's a blueprint that we all know that Floyd used to get bigger pay days and boost his image. The casuals was not supporting Floyd when he was considered classy, respectful and humble when he was younger plus more aggressive. Broner is doing the smart thing unfortunately his likability as a person will drop. If more people actually understood and appreciate the sweet science then boxers like Ward, Broner, and Floyd wouldn't have to step out of their comfort zone just to sell fights.


This is true, I feel like fighters like Ward and Floyd had to step out of who they really are in order to drum up interest. But Broner just does it, in that regard I feel that's a problem that needs correcting. Yes entertaining but I think because of his sense of humor and he does have that IT factor he can go about it a different way. I think with him, he digs himself in holes with the public because as we all know perception is reality. And he makes it appear as if he doesn't train or take the sport seriously but they is far from the truth
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Oct 31 2013, 01:26 PM) *
Actually it's YOU who is mistaken because I didn't say anything about him going clubbing. I simply disagreed with the fact that they go out in the same way. Yes, I did go out to clubs when I was younger. And yes I am out of shape. Last time I checked, I work in an office. I'm not trying to be a prize fighter. Not exactly getting where you are going with this. And no...I've never smoked a day in my life (especially when I was an athlete) You should watch your words before you call someone stupid, a hater or jealous. Nevr once did I say Floyd doesn't club heavy. He was in my area clubbing the other day (as I mentioned before). A club is a building. It's what you're doing in the club that is the difference. I simply said him clubbing and Floyd clubbing is different because he's smoking trees, drinking and out of shape. Danny Garcia too. The reason I mentioned Adrien Broner....hmm. Let's see. For starters. The thread's topic is...Adrien Broner. rolleyes_anim.gif Anyway, continue. As you said, I will "let him cook." I actually think Adrien Broner is a good fighter. I don't hate on him at all so I don't know where all this "jealousy and hatred" you speak of is coming from. I just think he seems a bit out of focus. As is Danny Garcia at times. Your father should never have to babysit your actions as an adult. Especially if you are a world champion.


You feeling some type of way when I responded to you but I didn't say You were a hater or jealous but my overall opinion of then people who rail against the kid are doing the same thing that's done to Mayweather. They're jealous and seem to lack the intelligence to see what's going on. I'd watch my words if I said something that was wrong but I didn't so I'm a keep the words the way they are. Politicians watch they words and I ain't running for office.

When in brought up why we keep talking about this it's because wits other athletes who do the same shit and many of them are in Boxing. It's too much hypocrisy. If Broner was like many would have us believe then we wouldn't be debating this topic at all. Out of these new wave of fighters I only see a few who actually can go undefeated. Ward is the leader of the new school imo. Bradley will officially lose, Broner, Danny's good but not great abilities will catch up to him. Donaire will take more L's but I think all will be this generations great crop of fighters. What Broner needs to improve on is his defense, I don't think Maidana will be the one to defeat a Adrien but I do see a KD occurring and Adrien getting up and schooling him. His ring IQ is so over looked
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 31 2013, 01:45 PM) *
I'll let yall have this one, but I will pose the mighty question...just how long are we gonna use his age as an excuse for some of the things that he does? I agree with what you said about people being older than him, and STILL fucking up, but at some point, we all have to be accountable for what we do. I wouldn't doubt in my mind that some/most of these fighters/athletes do the same stuff that he does, but the publicizing issue, is what I believe, truly makes people scratch their heads.


You accountable at every age it don't matter but he's a kid. That's where a lot of dudes go wrong in life thinking they men at 18 and don't know shit. The older you get the better and more wiser you supposed to get. Now that don't always happen but there's no telling how Adrien will mature or unravel before our eyes. He a kid and he act like one sometimes. Don't you find it funny how hour or any athlete can be quiet for a week and then the one time they post something or something gets posted on them then general public acts like that's ALL they do. Like this dude really smokes or drinks 24/7. But because you see one video or a succession of videos over a period of time this is what they do all the time.

Athletes sign up for this kinda stuff unfortunately when they are in the lime light. People used age in college as a rain for why they acted a certain way, or in a relationship or in this or that. Age is relevant. Idk. I personally think people's hypocrisy gets in the way of the facts. His outside life hasn't effected him in 27 damn fights but yet it's a constant issue being brought up. Fuck SRL, Jordan, Rodman, and other athletes be for him who've done the same thing before him. Let's just concentrate on Broner. If he loses it be I'll be because he fought someone who had his number m. This outside stuff being talked about is irrelevant
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 09:10 PM) *
You accountable at every age it don't matter but he's a kid. That's where a lot of dudes go wrong in life thinking they men at 18 and don't know shit. The older you get the better and more wiser you supposed to get. Now that don't always happen but there's no telling how Adrien will mature or unravel before our eyes. He a kid and he act like one sometimes. Don't you find it funny how hour or any athlete can be quiet for a week and then the one time they post something or something gets posted on them then general public acts like that's ALL they do. Like this dude really smokes or drinks 24/7. But because you see one video or a succession of videos over a period of time this is what they do all the time.

Athletes sign up for this kinda stuff unfortunately when they are in the lime light. People used age in college as a rain for why they acted a certain way, or in a relationship or in this or that. Age is relevant. Idk. I personally think people's hypocrisy gets in the way of the facts. His outside life hasn't effected him in 27 damn fights but yet it's a constant issue being brought up. Fuck SRL, Jordan, Rodman, and other athletes be for him who've done the same thing before him. Let's just concentrate on Broner. If he loses it be I'll be because he fought someone who had his number m. This outside stuff being talked about is irrelevant

I just think that he needs somebody in his corner, to be the one to tell him what to do and what not to do. I mean shit, being a father of 5 at the age of 23, doesn't leave you much room to use the "Im young" excuse, even if you are mentally. The guy IS young, but he's young with money, and even the smartest person in the world (not literally), can be driven to do dumb shit when they have money.

It's not the money that makes you do stupid shit, its the environment that comes along with that. Last week, I was hurting (financially) because of some truly unexpected expenses that literally killed my little savings account. Had you told me how to live last week, I would've done it all. Now that I got paid today, Im a raging retard...you cant tell me shit this week! Lol

With that in mind, if Broner has people "supporting" him and looking out for his best interest, then that needs to be questioned...especially if he's their source of income. Those people (read: yes men) typically dont speak up, out of fear of being let go and ruining their lively hood.

I said all of that to say, Broner can be perceived in two ways...a 23 year old father of 5 from the ghetto, who excels in boxing and changes his ways (at least in front of the camera). OR...he could be the 23 father of 5 from the ghetto, who shamelessly engages in bafoonery, and uses boxing as a vehicle (read: financially) to do so. Somebody should've been in this dude's ear, especially after that first or second child of his.

In my opinion, people can live how they want, I never disputed that, never will. I agree with what you said about an athlete being quiet, but as soon as they do something outta the way, the world just loses it. That's how the revolves man...nobody notices when you do things right, but as soon as you fuck up...Lol

I also agree that there's a level of hypocrisy, isn't there always? I've heard MANY stories about Manny and his partying days, from drinking, wild parties, cheating on his wife, gambling, illegitimate children, etc. His stuff is swept under the rug, with the exception of Roach's "concerns", which only serve as selling points for his fights.

I disagree with you saying that we should just say, "Fuck SRL, Jordan, Rodman, Magic, etc, and focus on Broner". These guys may have done the same shit as Broner, but there stuff wasn't publicized like this. For fuck's sake, Magic got HIV out of the whole deal...we cant say that dude was a saint, off the court. Lol (I laugh because that dude aint got no damn HIV).

The thing is, Broner just stands to be criticized more. If you're as talented as he is, you're not supposed to be seen these taboo things, but shit, Floyd is JUST as dedicated as Broner and isn't seen doing half the stuff he's doing, and people still dislike him...so I guess its a "pick your poison" type of situation.

I'd much rather hear about Broner's antics by way of a BOOK, which Im sure he'd sell the hell out of. Hell, most of the stuff that these guys did back in the day, is being revealed in books nowadays, if it already hasn't.

So yes, we cant talk about Broner, without talking about these guys. Had it not been for them (the boxers), then no one would even care about Broner. History repeats itself, and we've seen it too often in the sport. Broner being 23 with 5 kids and no type of self control (so it appears), makes the name "Holyfield" scroll through my head. We've seen guy like Evander and Tyson live these types of lives, suffer, "grow up" (sometimes it was too late), and still get the shit end of the stick.

mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Oct 31 2013, 08:58 PM) *
I just think that he needs somebody in his corner, to be the one to tell him what to do and what not to do. I mean shit, being a father of 5 at the age of 23, doesn't leave you much room to use the "Im young" excuse, even if you are mentally. The guy IS young, but he's young with money, and even the smartest person in the world (not literally), can be driven to do dumb shit when they have money.

It's not the money that makes you do stupid shit, its the environment that comes along with that. Last week, I was hurting (financially) because of some truly unexpected expenses that literally killed my little savings account. Had you told me how to live last week, I would've done it all. Now that I got paid today, Im a raging retard...you cant tell me shit this week! Lol

With that in mind, if Broner has people "supporting" him and looking out for his best interest, then that needs to be questioned...especially if he's their source of income. Those people (read: yes men) typically dont speak up, out of fear of being let go and ruining their lively hood.

I said all of that to say, Broner can be perceived in two ways...a 23 year old father of 5 from the ghetto, who excels in boxing and changes his ways (at least in front of the camera). OR...he could be the 23 father of 5 from the ghetto, who shamelessly engages in bafoonery, and uses boxing as a vehicle (read: financially) to do so. Somebody should've been in this dude's ear, especially after that first or second child of his.

In my opinion, people can live how they want, I never disputed that, never will. I agree with what you said about an athlete being quiet, but as soon as they do something outta the way, the world just loses it. That's how the revolves man...nobody notices when you do things right, but as soon as you fuck up...Lol

I also agree that there's a level of hypocrisy, isn't there always? I've heard MANY stories about Manny and his partying days, from drinking, wild parties, cheating on his wife, gambling, illegitimate children, etc. His stuff is swept under the rug, with the exception of Roach's "concerns", which only serve as selling points for his fights.

I disagree with you saying that we should just say, "Fuck SRL, Jordan, Rodman, Magic, etc, and focus on Broner". These guys may have done the same shit as Broner, but there stuff wasn't publicized like this. For fuck's sake, Magic got HIV out of the whole deal...we cant say that dude was a saint, off the court. Lol (I laugh because that dude aint got no damn HIV).

The thing is, Broner just stands to be criticized more. If you're as talented as he is, you're not supposed to be seen these taboo things, but shit, Floyd is JUST as dedicated as Broner and isn't seen doing half the stuff he's doing, and people still dislike him...so I guess its a "pick your poison" type of situation.

I'd much rather hear about Broner's antics by way of a BOOK, which Im sure he'd sell the hell out of. Hell, most of the stuff that these guys did back in the day, is being revealed in books nowadays, if it already hasn't.

So yes, we cant talk about Broner, without talking about these guys. Had it not been for them (the boxers), then no one would even care about Broner. History repeats itself, and we've seen it too often in the sport. Broner being 23 with 5 kids and no type of self control (so it appears), makes the name "Holyfield" scroll through my head. We've seen guy like Evander and Tyson live these types of lives, suffer, "grow up" (sometimes it was too late), and still get the shit end of the stick.


I'm predicting a knockdown for Maidana in this fight and I say that because defensively he's lacking and Marcos brings the thunder with every shot. On top of that Robert Garcia just added to Marcos' style and has him more patient but I got a Broner victory because he's so skilled but I am starting to see things that concern me. Like how he got his lights turned out in sparring earlier this year and he appears a bit chubby at the moment. I think he's doing a little too much of the Roy Jones school of boxing and that's relying on your skills to get you by

And speaking of RJJ, does anyone find it crazy besides me, that he says he wants to fight Floyd at 170 lol

Now it can work and skills get you far but there has never been a time where hard work doesn't pay off. I don't care what he does outside if the ring much like the same with Floyd but he puts himself in these position to where we have to question and wonder about him. I see greatness written all over him. I wanna know whose around him that's helping him and keeping him focused. 5 damn kids. A mother still in the hood, not to mention that dumb stuff he did to get kicked up yrs ago. But through all that he's one helluva fighter, he has skills and likening said his ring IQ is very very good. But he has that diarrhea mouth and that hood mentality. I understand why people look at him with the side eye, I just call for objectivity and not judgement

I didn't mean like F them in terms of forget about them I just meant we rend to gloss over them and what they did which is the same thing he's doing. But your right because only the local media and us Chicagoans knew what Jordan was really like but Rodman shit was always on front street. Maybe Gab should make Broner hang out with him I bet that straighten his ass up quick lol...i just want to see him successful because here's a guy who's had all the odds stacked against him and he's made it and now he needs to build his legacy. But now that he's made it he needs to aft accordingly. I want to see him and Danny and others succeed but a Broner does make it hard to root for him.

You bring up Holyfield and I think I've let it be known what I think of him lmao. Another one whose done things that get swept under the rug and Broner could head that way. He parties and all those kids at such a young age. I don't care what you say 5 kids at 23? That's too young man, I'd give up my parental rights lol. It's funny because another reason I'm a big supporter of Broner is because his trainer is top notch. Stafford is a very good trainer but I'm still wondering whose keeping him focused because whose ever tasked with the assignment has failed
mrchitown
I don't believe that Maidana will beat Broner. I think Broner will continue to be in for quite some time. But I pray that I get sick or I'm on vacation when Broner loses because some of yall ain't never gon let me hear the end of it lol
Hotsauce
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Oct 31 2013, 07:37 PM) *
Hell yeah he did, many times. Look at what Rodman did and he was out literally every night. Drinking smoking and screwing chick's. that whole lifestyle thing as it pertains to being social is a myth and I hate when people use it. Every athlete is different from the next


Word look at the stuff allen iverson was doing and he still is a first ball HOF.

Yo boy hit that gamewinner last night.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Nov 1 2013, 12:37 PM) *
Word look at the stuff allen iverson was doing and he still is a first ball HOF.

Yo boy hit that gamewinner last night.


Broner could end up like AI. Drinking and smoking and even the social elements is addictive. Now Iverson been reduced to announcing his retirement when we all know he didn't want to. He still wanted to play but looking at him, he looks like the guy in front of the liquor store waiting for his drinking buddies

Derrick off to start the season but he hit it when it counted
Franchize
QUOTE (Hotsauce @ Nov 1 2013, 01:37 PM) *
Word look at the stuff allen iverson was doing and he still is a first ball HOF.

Yo boy hit that gamewinner last night.

I was pissed. I'm a Knicks fan thumbsdown_anim.gif
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Nov 1 2013, 03:29 PM) *
I was pissed. I'm a Knicks fan thumbsdown_anim.gif


Lol I secretly always liked the Knicks, even when they had Starks and Ewing but saying that out loud here will cause trouble
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