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Gambit808
To me, it seems almost akward for the trainer when he has to try and relate to his fighter going back n foward with a translator in the corner in under a minute before it's back to action. It just never seems to click, especially in the moments of a frustrated fighter and last night between Roger Mayweather and Joseph Adbeko was one of many examples I can give for my point. It's one thing to use a guy in training to help tweak or enhance your style, but it's another thing to be in a corner having to limit yourself with words and emotion because the fighter doesen't understand them. To me, it would seem to only add to a fighters frustrations given the moment.
mgrover
money and stuff? tbh at times they do understand, it like pac and roach, buboy is always there repeating in filipino, who knws why, the language of boxing is universal
Gambit808
QUOTE (mgrover @ Dec 8 2013, 01:03 PM) *
money and stuff? tbh at times they do understand, it like pac and roach, buboy is always there repeating in filipino, who knws why, the language of boxing is universal

I read u, but PAC atlease understands English, I'm speaking on fighters who don't understand a lick of it or their trainer not understanding a lick of their fighters language. It just seems to complicate things more when things go bad and more than ever in a fight the trainer and fighter need to be on the same page.
Dolimite
I think everyone wants a challenge. Chemistry has a lot to do with it. Some fighters have a better chemistry then others. I mean, Roger is hard to understand under any given circumstances.
mrchitown
That's what a translators for. I don't see a problem with it. I'd train a fighter if he walked into the gym and had a talent. Who gives a shit about the language barrier, people meaning fans use that as an excuse sometime. You train a fighter because you see something in them, some kind of skill set, etc etc....that language barrier stuff is over blown
KSUN247
Joseph Agbeko understands and speaks English. He just tuned out Roger Mayweather. Really, after the first round against Rigo, he didn't want anything to do with that fight anymore. Roger begged him to do something, at least throw a punch or two. He didn't and he got schooled and punished for his inactivity. Would have been interesting to see Roger throw in the towel cause Agbeko didn't want to fight.

Trainers train whoever they can. If a guy has talent, a trainer will work with them. Language is a barrier, but not a big one.
aTYpicalTYrant
Same reason why I worked at Domino's Pizza while in Highschool. I needed some damn money.
AZWildCat
QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Dec 8 2013, 10:11 PM) *
Same reason why I worked at Domino's Pizza while in Highschool. I needed some damn money.



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as long as they have some sort of understanding I see nothing wrong with it. sometimes its better for both to not know what the fuck each other are saying...leaves more room/time for work
Cshel86
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 8 2013, 12:40 PM) *
To me, it seems almost akward for the trainer when he has to try and relate to his fighter going back n foward with a translator in the corner in under a minute before it's back to action. It just never seems to click, especially in the moments of a frustrated fighter and last night between Roger Mayweather and Joseph Adbeko was one of many examples I can give for my point. It's one thing to use a guy in training to help tweak or enhance your style, but it's another thing to be in a corner having to limit yourself with words and emotion because the fighter doesen't understand them. To me, it would seem to only add to a fighters frustrations given the moment.

I can understand this. 60 seconds is not enough time to break stuff down...as if instructions don't already have to be broken down anyway. It's worse when there's a language barrier, and the guy just had a bad round. We've seen it with fighters who understand their trainers...when they have a bad round (read: "he hit me good, now I wanna go back out there and FIGHT")...they go back out there and do the exact opposite...they fight back, rather than hold.

Now, as MG mentioned, the language of boxing is universal...I guess it all depends on the fighter too. Some fighters get hit and wanna fight back, while others get hit and go back to the corner (if they make it) with the "what am I supposed to do" look on their face.
sduck
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Franchize
QUOTE (aTYpicalTYrant @ Dec 8 2013, 10:11 PM) *
Same reason why I worked at Domino's Pizza while in Highschool. I needed some damn money.

All other comments no longer matter. Nail meet head lol
Gambit808
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Dec 8 2013, 03:34 PM) *
That's what a translators for. I don't see a problem with it. I'd train a fighter if he walked into the gym and had a talent. Who gives a shit about the language barrier, people meaning fans use that as an excuse sometime. You train a fighter because you see something in them, some kind of skill set, etc etc....that language barrier stuff is over blown

Maybe I am blowin it out of proportion a bit, it's just I haven't seen these kinds of duo's ever work out long term at being as effective as fighters/trainers who don't need translators, especially in those moments of a frustration, but I get it "u can't deny talent".
mrchitown
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Dec 10 2013, 02:03 PM) *
Maybe I am blowin it out of proportion a bit, it's just I haven't seen these kinds of duo's ever work out long term at being as effective as fighters/trainers who don't need translators, especially in those moments of a frustration, but I get it "u can't deny talent".


It never hurts to give it a try. I know I would. I don't care what language a fighter speaks, if they've got talent and are willing to work hard at their craft I can work with them. I suspect this is true for a lot of trainers.....the reason it didn't work out Saturday night is because Agbeko wasn't listening. He understood but he refused to follow instructions
Franchize
Not for nothing, I odn't think Zab understands Yoel and that's his pops + the speak the same language....allegedly
mrchitown
QUOTE (Franchize @ Dec 10 2013, 03:01 PM) *
Not for nothing, I odn't think Zab understands Yoel and that's his pops + the speak the same language....allegedly


Here you go with that shit lol
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