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Dolimite
All reports are pointing to Pac vs. Bradley in April. I am not sure how I feel about this fight but I guess in terms of boxing it is a win win situation. If Bradley beats Pac, then we can scream for a Tim and May fight in September, this is the last fight on Bradley's contract so he could be free to fight May in September. However, if Pac wins, then there is hope for the people who still want to see May vs. Pac next year. I would like Bradley to win because, I honestly think he could give Mayweather fits in the ring. The guy always finds a way to win. So do ya'll like and why?
Gambit808
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 11:56 AM) *
All reports are pointing to Pac vs. Bradley in April. I am not sure how I feel about this fight but I guess in terms of boxing it is a win win situation. If Bradley beats Pac, then we can scream for a Tim and May fight in September, this is the last fight on Bradley's contract so he could be free to fight May in September. However, if Pac wins, then there is hope for the people who still want to see May vs. Pac next year. I would like Bradley to win because, I honestly think he could give Mayweather fits in the ring. The guy always finds a way to win. So do ya'll like and why?

Don't forget it's a way to stick it to JMM for acting like a diva lol. I like this more than the Ruslan fight and let's be honest here, it's the only fight TR can put together right now that makes sense, and hey, this will be the first time we see Pac face a guy coming off an impressive career defining fight at WW so I'm all in for this one. Make it happen!
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 11:56 AM) *
All reports are pointing to Pac vs. Bradley in April. I am not sure how I feel about this fight but I guess in terms of boxing it is a win win situation. If Bradley beats Pac, then we can scream for a Tim and May fight in September, this is the last fight on Bradley's contract so he could be free to fight May in September. However, if Pac wins, then there is hope for the people who still want to see May vs. Pac next year. I would like Bradley to win because, I honestly think he could give Mayweather fits in the ring. The guy always finds a way to win. So do ya'll like and why?

ryustuh
i like the rematch. i feel like tim's improved as a fighter and is more diligent in listening to his corner/following the game plan even after getting busted up and dazed. i think he still has some demons haunting him from the first fight, and obviously, this will just add fuel to the fire. manny, on the other hand, didn't impress me too much with his win over rios not really because of how he fought against brandon, but more of who rios is as an opponent. i think this will be a good opportunity for pac to re-cement his place in the top ranks of the division. and agree with the OP about potential opportunities for each fighter with money may down the line.

i do, however, think the fight with ruslan would be more exciting and appealing to the fans who want to see some heavy punches traded.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 10:56 AM) *
All reports are pointing to Pac vs. Bradley in April. I am not sure how I feel about this fight but I guess in terms of boxing it is a win win situation. If Bradley beats Pac, then we can scream for a Tim and May fight in September, this is the last fight on Bradley's contract so he could be free to fight May in September. However, if Pac wins, then there is hope for the people who still want to see May vs. Pac next year. I would like Bradley to win because, I honestly think he could give Mayweather fits in the ring. The guy always finds a way to win. So do ya'll like and why?


Why do you scream these lies bro lol.. Braldey and Manny's contract is up in December. THE END OF THE YEAR...you clearly don't read this stuff or have listened to Bradley in interviews, e's said the fight is not possible unless he leaves TR when his contract is up in December. Let it go Dolomite lol
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 6 2014, 01:39 PM) *
Why do you scream these lies bro lol.. Braldey and Manny's contract is up in December. THE END OF THE YEAR...you clearly don't read this stuff or have listened to Bradley in interviews, e's said the fight is not possible unless he leaves TR when his contract is up in December. Let it go Dolomite lol

I am hearing conflicting reports, I thought he had one more fight and then he is done? um
Dolimite
QUOTE (ryustuh @ Jan 6 2014, 11:51 AM) *
i like the rematch. i feel like tim's improved as a fighter and is more diligent in listening to his corner/following the game plan even after getting busted up and dazed. i think he still has some demons haunting him from the first fight, and obviously, this will just add fuel to the fire. manny, on the other hand, didn't impress me too much with his win over rios not really because of how he fought against brandon, but more of who rios is as an opponent. i think this will be a good opportunity for pac to re-cement his place in the top ranks of the division. and agree with the OP about potential opportunities for each fighter with money may down the line.

i do, however, think the fight with ruslan would be more exciting and appealing to the fans who want to see some heavy punches traded.

busted up? Tim looked fine after the fight minus the two hurt ankles.
mgrover
We'll see, if Pac beats him we'll get the whole resounding oh yeah, Pac already beat him once...
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 05:37 PM) *
I am hearing conflicting reports, I thought he had one more fight and then he is done? um


I've been seeing since last year that his contract is up at the end of 2014. There are articles and reports of him having TWO fights left TWO. Bradley has talked about their not being a possibility for a Floyd fight this year, and he said that last year. Now maybe something has changed but until I hear that from Timothy Bradley any other report is not even on my radar

All reports are that he and Pacquiao's contract is up at the same time, December 2014

If Bradley wants to fight Mayweather, he’d likely have to leave Arum before a fight like that could happen. And if Bradley has to sign an extension of a year or so just to get the Pacquiao fight, then you can forget about Bradley fighting Mayweather anytime soon. Bradley’s contract with Top Rank expires in 2 fights, and it should be up by the end of 2014, unless he suffers an injury that prevents him from fighting twice this year.
This is from boxing news

Whether He would Stay or Leave Once He Completes His Contract with Top Rank:
“We’ll have to cross that bridge when we get there. I’m tied into Top Rank for another year. I’m a man of my word and fulfill my contract. If it’s possible to sign with Top Rank, if they have options for me, then that’s what I’ll do. If not, then we look for better options. I’m not really worried about it now. I’m just going to take it one fight at a time and that’s all that I can do.”

This is a recent interview he did with tha boxing voice

he knows his contract situation better then anyone, and he;s said that he has fights left on his contract or a year left on his contract. TR don't like him no way so maybe they do throw him in with Manny and let him walk. But let's not forget that Arum is the king of those extensions, he will dangle a big fight in the boxer's face and wrap them up for another year. Whenever Bradley's contract is up it'll be interesting to see what he will do. But I think he has 2 fights left not one with TR
ryustuh
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 06:39 PM) *
busted up? Tim looked fine after the fight minus the two hurt ankles.


was referring to his fight with provodnikov and reverting back to what joel was telling him in the corner after failing the first two rounds.
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 6 2014, 05:07 PM) *
I've been seeing since last year that his contract is up at the end of 2014. There are articles and reports of him having TWO fights left TWO. Bradley has talked about their not being a possibility for a Floyd fight this year, and he said that last year. Now maybe something has changed but until I hear that from Timothy Bradley any other report is not even on my radar

All reports are that he and Pacquiao's contract is up at the same time, December 2014

If Bradley wants to fight Mayweather, heíd likely have to leave Arum before a fight like that could happen. And if Bradley has to sign an extension of a year or so just to get the Pacquiao fight, then you can forget about Bradley fighting Mayweather anytime soon. Bradleyís contract with Top Rank expires in 2 fights, and it should be up by the end of 2014, unless he suffers an injury that prevents him from fighting twice this year.
This is from boxing news

Whether He would Stay or Leave Once He Completes His Contract with Top Rank:
ďWeíll have to cross that bridge when we get there. Iím tied into Top Rank for another year. Iím a man of my word and fulfill my contract. If itís possible to sign with Top Rank, if they have options for me, then thatís what Iíll do. If not, then we look for better options. Iím not really worried about it now. Iím just going to take it one fight at a time and thatís all that I can do.Ē

This is a recent interview he did with tha boxing voice

he knows his contract situation better then anyone, and he;s said that he has fights left on his contract or a year left on his contract. TR don't like him no way so maybe they do throw him in with Manny and let him walk. But let's not forget that Arum is the king of those extensions, he will dangle a big fight in the boxer's face and wrap them up for another year. Whenever Bradley's contract is up it'll be interesting to see what he will do. But I think he has 2 fights left not one with TR

The Observe and fight article said Bradley only has one fight left.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 08:20 PM) *
The Observe and fight article said Bradley only has one fight left.


What I linked you is out of the fighters mouth himself, this is what Timothy is saying, the fighter know his contract better then most. Let me kill this dream of you people once again, this is what he said AGAIN recently....

Another name that has been mentioned as a possible opponent for Bradley is pound for pound king Floyd Mayweather but many doubt whether or not that fight can be made because of the rift between Bradleyís promoter Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, who Mayweather does business with. It would seem that Bradley would have to leave Top Rank for the fight to ever happen. ďRight now my contract is not up until next December. I got another year with Top Rank before Iím able to even move and being the man that I am, Iíll definitely fulfill my contract and do whatever I need to do to definitely move on,Ē Bradley explained.

Let it go bruh, all these articles not even getting it from Bradley, why don't they just ask him when his contract is up? He keeps saying 2 more fights, and up in December but yet after every one of his fights I hear this stuff about his contract being up. This was the same stuff being said when he fought Marquez. I'm not saying TR won't be done with him in April, if he fights Pacquiao. All I'm saying is these writers are saying stuff but the fighter is saying another.

I know everybody wants the fight between him and Mayweather but stop ignoring stuff, this man said his contract is up in December, 2 more fights. Why is this so hard to explain lol
Cshel86
Ready to see those hellacious Pacquiao flurries that chrome dome Tim avoided with that big head that you just can't miss. Oh the joy...
checkleft
QUOTE (Gambit808 @ Jan 6 2014, 02:27 PM) *
Don't forget it's a way to stick it to JMM for acting like a diva lol. I like this more than the Ruslan fight and let's be honest here, it's the only fight TR can put together right now that makes sense, and hey, this will be the first time we see Pac face a guy coming off an impressive career defining fight at WW so I'm all in for this one. Make it happen!

Ruslan didn't just have a career defining win..??
Gambit808
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 7 2014, 02:16 AM) *
Ruslan didn't just have a career defining win..??

rolleyes_anim.gif I guess u can throw him in that category. On a personal note though, I'm just not too high on what Ruslan has showcased yet as some people here seem to be, but to his credit he fought to a good victory, but if we're gonna sit here and say a win over Mike Alvarado is considered "career defining"....... haha.gif

But yeah, if Pacman were to fight Provodnikov then the same can be said in the sense of him coming off of a win looking impressive, but the caliber of his prior opposition I wouldn't dare compare to that of Bradley's.
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 6 2014, 08:52 PM) *
What I linked you is out of the fighters mouth himself, this is what Timothy is saying, the fighter know his contract better then most. Let me kill this dream of you people once again, this is what he said AGAIN recently....

Another name that has been mentioned as a possible opponent for Bradley is pound for pound king Floyd Mayweather but many doubt whether or not that fight can be made because of the rift between Bradleyís promoter Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, who Mayweather does business with. It would seem that Bradley would have to leave Top Rank for the fight to ever happen. ďRight now my contract is not up until next December. I got another year with Top Rank before Iím able to even move and being the man that I am, Iíll definitely fulfill my contract and do whatever I need to do to definitely move on,Ē Bradley explained.

Let it go bruh, all these articles not even getting it from Bradley, why don't they just ask him when his contract is up? He keeps saying 2 more fights, and up in December but yet after every one of his fights I hear this stuff about his contract being up. This was the same stuff being said when he fought Marquez. I'm not saying TR won't be done with him in April, if he fights Pacquiao. All I'm saying is these writers are saying stuff but the fighter is saying another.

I know everybody wants the fight between him and Mayweather but stop ignoring stuff, this man said his contract is up in December, 2 more fights. Why is this so hard to explain lol

You are a dream killer Chi, but heck of a game last night! What do you think of the Bynum and Deng trade?
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 7 2014, 10:10 AM) *
You are a dream killer Chi, but heck of a game last night! What do you think of the Bynum and Deng trade?


He gives indications in little ways that he wants to leave, the stuff I posted, he was going in on TR in 3 different interviews because he says they don't have his back and he doesn't know why he's been treated the way he's being treated there

I think and hope he bolts, same for Manny but we shall see

They had to do it. They offered him money, he didn't take it. So now he's gone, Boozer is supposed to get amnestied this summer. The Bulls plan to release Bynum allegedly. And they will be under the luxury tax and it will free up $15mil in cap space. Plus they got 3 first round draft picks from the Cavs who ain't making the playoffs no time soon. It was a good business decision on their part
HyyerBlaze
Looking forward to it!

Crazy Manny fighting a legitimate top 5 P4P and Floyd fighting Danny Garcias left overs.


But really...this fight shouldve happened before JMM layed his ass out...Arum is the devil for real.
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 7 2014, 02:10 PM) *
He gives indications in little ways that he wants to leave, the stuff I posted, he was going in on TR in 3 different interviews because he says they don't have his back and he doesn't know why he's been treated the way he's being treated there

I think and hope he bolts, same for Manny but we shall see

They had to do it. They offered him money, he didn't take it. So now he's gone, Boozer is supposed to get amnestied this summer. The Bulls plan to release Bynum allegedly. And they will be under the luxury tax and it will free up $15mil in cap space. Plus they got 3 first round draft picks from the Cavs who ain't making the playoffs no time soon. It was a good business decision on their part

You're bulls look to be in position to make a run for Melo if they amnesty Carlos the loser boozer.. taj is way better than that dude anyway. SC stand up
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 8 2014, 06:35 PM) *
You're bulls look to be in position to make a run for Melo if they amnesty Carlos the loser boozer.. taj is way better than that dude anyway. SC stand up


From what I've heard Hinrich may be moved to Golden State and all indications are that Boozer will be amnestied in the summer so the Bulls can go after a big free agent...I love Taj, dude got heart and he has some good post moves
Dolimite
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 8 2014, 05:35 PM) *
You're bulls look to be in position to make a run for Melo if they amnesty Carlos the loser boozer.. taj is way better than that dude anyway. SC stand up



QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 8 2014, 06:03 PM) *
From what I've heard Hinrich may be moved to Golden State and all indications are that Boozer will be amnestied in the summer so the Bulls can go after a big free agent...I love Taj, dude got heart and he has some good post moves

Million dollar question: can Melo and Rose coexist?
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 8 2014, 08:12 PM) *
Million dollar question: can Melo and Rose coexist?


Thibs' system would be a great fit for Carmelo and the Bulls have enough great defenders to mask his defensive flaws. Why wouldn't they coexist? Anybody whose seen derrick play in college and in HS knows he likes to defer something I cant'say for many other top dawgs in the league
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 8 2014, 07:38 PM) *
Thibs' system would be a great fit for Carmelo and the Bulls have enough great defenders to mask his defensive flaws. Why wouldn't they coexist? Anybody whose seen derrick play in college and in HS knows he likes to defer something I cant'say for many other top dawgs in the league

I forget, every.superstar isn't like Kobe Bryant, Mr. Ball Hog.
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 9 2014, 05:57 AM) *
I forget, every.superstar isn't like Kobe Bryant, Mr. Ball Hog.


Lol
mrchitown
There's a rumor going around that Bradley is pricing himself out of the fight with Pacquiao. I know in an interview he did he said that he was guaranteed x amount of money if a rematch took place. And that any negotiations would have to start there before anything would be agreed to or the fight wouldn't happen
Dolimite
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 9 2014, 06:36 AM) *
There's a rumor going around that Bradley is pricing himself out of the fight with Pacquiao. I know in an interview he did he said that he was guaranteed x amount of money if a rematch took place. And that any negotiations would have to start there before anything would be agreed to or the fight wouldn't happen

Yo if there is no Bradley fight for Pac in April, then who is Pac going to dance with? Jessie Vargas, hell Mikey Garcia is even being whispered. This is why the Guerrero move makes sense, business wise. I like Bradley, he isn't afraid to stand up to Arum, he isn't a company man, the dude has earned his worth. Bradley should stick to his guns, finish his contract and be ready to make some serious cash in 2015. Or maybe he can even buy his contract out like Oscar and Floyd. I like Bradley, Pac, this is how you control your career. You demand the promoter you hired do what they are hired to do,
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 9 2014, 09:36 AM) *
There's a rumor going around that Bradley is pricing himself out of the fight with Pacquiao. I know in an interview he did he said that he was guaranteed x amount of money if a rematch took place. And that any negotiations would have to start there before anything would be agreed to or the fight wouldn't happen

If he's asking for that whopping $10M that not even a more marketable Marquez asked for against Pac, then yes, chrome dome is pricing himself out.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 9 2014, 11:53 AM) *
If he's asking for that whopping $10M that not even a more marketable Marquez asked for against Pac, then yes, chrome dome is pricing himself out.

On purpose? That's what I think
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 9 2014, 12:53 PM) *
If he's asking for that whopping $10M that not even a more marketable Marquez asked for against Pac, then yes, chrome dome is pricing himself out.


I wonder what the number is that he was guaranteed in the rematch and what he's trying to get now....Bradley may just be trying to get 2 solid fights and then bail. Can we blame him if that's the case?
mrchitown
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 9 2014, 12:02 PM) *
Yo if there is no Bradley fight for Pac in April, then who is Pac going to dance with? Jessie Vargas, hell Mikey Garcia is even being whispered. This is why the Guerrero move makes sense, business wise. I like Bradley, he isn't afraid to stand up to Arum, he isn't a company man, the dude has earned his worth. Bradley should stick to his guns, finish his contract and be ready to make some serious cash in 2015. Or maybe he can even buy his contract out like Oscar and Floyd. I like Bradley, Pac, this is how you control your career. You demand the promoter you hired do what they are hired to do,


A Garcia fight won't happen for a while, listen to Mikey and his brother and you'd know that. There not dumb, they not going to jump from where they are all the way to 147 to lose. Mikey is very smart, he said he's going to let his body mature before he goes after that fight

Bradley has said numerous times that he's a man of his word and that he's going to honor his contract. I fully expect that to happen, why spend monety to buy your contract out when you can fight 2 easy fights probably and just walk?
checkleft
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 8 2014, 10:12 PM) *
Million dollar question: can Melo and Rose coexist?

I thought the million dollar question would if rose could stay healthy enough for us to find out.

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 8 2014, 10:38 PM) *
Thibs' system would be a great fit for Carmelo and the Bulls have enough great defenders to mask his defensive flaws. Why wouldn't they coexist? Anybody whose seen derrick play in college and in HS knows he likes to defer something I cant'say for many other top dawgs in the league


thibs tenure may be in jeopardy, but even without rose he is a master of getting the most out of all of his players, he and Melo could be deadly.
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 9 2014, 10:36 AM) *
There's a rumor going around that Bradley is pricing himself out of the fight with Pacquiao. I know in an interview he did he said that he was guaranteed x amount of money if a rematch took place. And that any negotiations would have to start there before anything would be agreed to or the fight wouldn't happen

Bradley isn't going to lay down anymore, If there was a guarantee I doubt he let's it slide. Especially since pac isn't the draw they thought he would remain to be
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 9 2014, 06:03 PM) *
I thought the million dollar question would if rose could stay healthy enough for us to find out.



thibs tenure may be in jeopardy, but even without rose he is a master of getting the most out of all of his players, he and Melo could be deadly.

Bradley isn't going to lay down anymore, If there was a guarantee I doubt he let's it slide. Especially since pac isn't the draw they thought he would remain to be


I don't know where you hear this stuff from but most of it is fantasy. Like really, Alice in Wonderland shit. Thibs and the front office don't get along everyone knows that but they are nowhere near firing him. Who would they hire to replace him? He's one of the best coaches in the league and he's still doing a great job despite the current predicament. I'm here in Chicago and our own media hasn't heard jack about his job being in jeopardy

Like that alleged remark about derrick not wanting to be apart of rebuilding, that came from the NY post and Derrick, come to find out didn't say it. It was his obese brother who wants more power and knows he won't get it. Chicago is different, the only reliable sources are from the beat writers and a few blog dudes here like KC Johnson and Sam Aggy, if it's not from them then it ain't credible. Everything I've seen that's been false has come from shitty media outlets or websites. I knew Deng was gone when KC reported it, just like Hinrich may get traded to Golden State, when it comes from them we know it's real. The Bulls aren't like other teams, they keep shit underwraps. Sam Aggy, is the one who gets the real rumor and scoops, everybody else going after headlines

Derrick will be fine, too much stuff gets over-hyped nowadays. People need to worry about CP3 and Kyrie, their more injury prone then Rose

He shouldn't let it slide, why get lowballed and possibly screwed in the fight. Gotta give credit to this guy
checkleft
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 9 2014, 08:42 PM) *
I don't know where you hear this stuff from but most of it is fantasy. Like really, Alice in Wonderland shit. Thibs and the front office don't get along everyone knows that but they are nowhere near firing him. Who would they hire to replace him? He's one of the best coaches in the league and he's still doing a great job despite the current predicament. I'm here in Chicago and our own media hasn't heard jack about his job being in jeopardy

Like that alleged remark about derrick not wanting to be apart of rebuilding, that came from the NY post and Derrick, come to find out didn't say it. It was his obese brother who wants more power and knows he won't get it. Chicago is different, the only reliable sources are from the beat writers and a few blog dudes here like KC Johnson and Sam Aggy, if it's not from them then it ain't credible. Everything I've seen that's been false has come from shitty media outlets or websites. I knew Deng was gone when KC reported it, just like Hinrich may get traded to Golden State, when it comes from them we know it's real. The Bulls aren't like other teams, they keep shit underwraps. Sam Aggy, is the one who gets the real rumor and scoops, everybody else going after headlines

Derrick will be fine, too much stuff gets over-hyped nowadays. People need to worry about CP3 and Kyrie, their more injury prone then Rose

He shouldn't let it slide, why get lowballed and possibly screwed in the fight. Gotta give credit to this guy

See the thing is if the bulls aren't going for Melo and really are rebuilding it would be smart to get rid of thibs. He is the type of coach that makes decent to below average teams overachieve. Plus they don't have the assets (other than an injured rose, which will never happen) to trade for high picks ect.. I like thibs though but he seems pretty bummed they traded his personal favorite player, if he actually had to coach that pos bynum he may have resigned already Lmao.
mrchitown
QUOTE (checkleft @ Jan 10 2014, 02:00 AM) *
See the thing is if the bulls aren't going for Melo and really are rebuilding it would be smart to get rid of thibs. He is the type of coach that makes decent to below average teams overachieve. Plus they don't have the assets (other than an injured rose, which will never happen) to trade for high picks ect.. I like thibs though but he seems pretty bummed they traded his personal favorite player, if he actually had to coach that pos bynum he may have resigned already Lmao.


How do you know the Bulls aren't going for Melo? Chicago is not like other cities where people want attention and just leak shit to be popular. If it doesn't come from inside then it's not true. The guy has said he'd welcome playing here and his wife has said she wants him to play here if he doesn't want to re-sign with NY. And I heard this from both of them on Chicago radio

Gibson, Noah..the Bulls have plenty of assets. if they didn't then why are teams inquiring about them and Hinrich and Augustin. We have assets. Due to my unfortunate time working for the bears I understand the cap, contracts, etc. Did you not see that we have Charlotte's 1st rd pick, unprotected. So if they are in the lottery the Bulls can take that pick this year or next. They cleared $15mil off the books by getting rid of that overpaid Deng and dumping Bynum. They have an expiring contract in a player that's looking good in Dunleavy and can trade or get a $5mil tax exemption like they did when they traded Korver. Then you amnesty Boozer, which by some is expected this offseason. Then the fact that the Bulls have 3 picks from the Cavs, anything past #10. I think the Bulls are good lol. I hate their management but their good. they don't have to trade for a high pick when they own picks from multiple teams. We good over here lol
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 9 2014, 02:14 PM) *
On purpose? That's what I think

Not really, because it was "said" that he was guaranteed $10M in a rematch...that was before the controversial win even took place. Again, it was "said"...nothing really concrete. The part that kills me though, is Bradley expecting that much money, when there isn't $10M worth of shit that happened between him and Pac over the past two years.

Bradley had that exciting Ruslan fight and he boxed JMM to death, but in the meantime, Pac got KO'd and took damn near a year off, JUST to come back and fight Rios in China and hurt his PPV numbers even more than they've been hurting.

QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 9 2014, 06:08 PM) *
I wonder what the number is that he was guaranteed in the rematch and what he's trying to get now....Bradley may just be trying to get 2 solid fights and then bail. Can we blame him if that's the case?

He "said" $10M, but shit, the first fight didn't sell well....for it to be a Pac fight. Notice, Arum barely raised a finger to promote that fight...that's when Pac was in limbo about a lot of stuff and really didn't fight like that anymore.

Shhhh....secret.gif...the Bradley fight was signed before the 3rd Marquez fight even took place, but what's even funnier, as we all know...Pac and JMM were doing an interview together shortly (a week or two) before he stepped in the ring with Mosley, so we knew where that was going. Floyd had just made a whopping $32M just a month before the Bradley fight, so Bob already knew that Manny was going to ask for more money after he beat a "slick black" undefeated fighter...having the world think that a Floyd fight was on the horizon for the end of the year.

On top of that, Manny wasn't as motivated to fight, so he fucked himself in that one, by fighting 30-45 seconds per round...that was all Manny. With that in mind, the "loss" and lack of promotion (which led to those not-so-great PPV numbers) was a viable reason for Bob to say, "Hey kid, there's not enough money out there to pay you (insert amount that Manny asked for), you just lost your last fight, and the numbers didn't so well".

Of course Manny doesn't ask many questions, so it would've stopped right there. Bob kept him honest all the way through that situation, though it appeared that he was trying to "see him through it" by bringing up Manny's marital problems and all. Hell, they even disagreed with where his next fight would take place, in the post-fight presser.

Moving on, I find it even funnier that the Rios fight was in serious talks before the Alvarado rematch even took place, and out of all people to call out after the first Alvarado fight, Rios called out Pac. I wouldn't look much into it from that standpoint, but the way Arum's fighters sound when they say some groundbreaking shit, sounds so rehearsed and "discussed"...as in Bob discussing it with them before the first bell of their current fight.

Rios was supposed to fight Manny in April '13, Marquez was supposed to Bradley, and that Alvarado was supposed to fight Vargas...that shit went ALL wrong...poor Vargas and poor Alvarado. Let's be real, Alvarado isn't marketable, at best, he's a decent co-feature on PPV card, but that's it. Having Alvarado in the mix and him "boxing" so well in the rematch, screwed everything up again...hence why Mike was thrown to the wolves in the Ruslan fight.

He lost BAD in that fight...no way in hell they could've made it controversial and gotten him back into the mix...because getting him OUT of the mix was the plan. Throw out Alvarado, wiggle Jessie Vargas back in the mix (which will happen this year), and brainwash another fighter into signing with TR (we ALL know who that'll end up being).

Vicious cycle my friend, but the sad thing is, people pay too much attention to the guys at the forefront (Pac, JMM, Bradley, Rios), when the back end guys (Alvarado, Ruslan, Vargas, etc) are there to create upsets, take the fall (Alvarado and Vargas), and ultimately get deleted if they ruin things. Remember that shit that Bradley pulled at the end of 2012 with not wanting to take that $2.5M for a Peterson rematch (when Lamont was a free agent)?

Peterson was supposed to be pulled into the mix to ultimately match up and build up Vargas (and Bob was gonna "talk away" all of Lamont's drug issues to the public...the same way he blew off the Magarito plaster issue), but Bradley fucked it up...hence why he almost got wiped away by Provodnikov last March...which again, fucked up a lot of other things.

Juan was being an asshole (not wanting to fight Manny again, and talking about retirement (read: give me an easy fight for big money since I knocked out your cash cow), so he gave him Bradley...a not-so-easy and less marketable fight, lol. Now...Juan cant come back and ask for that crazy money that he wanted (though he would've only got about $7M at best), because he lost a "close" decision (read: got his ass kicked) to Bradley. Hold up, wait..."close" and/or "controversial" means "you're still in the mix, but now you gotta take the money that I give you".

I just said too much...

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KOpower
Good fight and one that needs to happen. These are 2 of the best fighters in the loaded 140-147 pound divisions and the controversy surrounding the first fight is enough reason for me to see it the 2nd time.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 10 2014, 07:55 AM) *
Not really, because it was "said" that he was guaranteed $10M in a rematch...that was before the controversial win even took place. Again, it was "said"...nothing really concrete. The part that kills me though, is Bradley expecting that much money, when there isn't $10M worth of shit that happened between him and Pac over the past two years.

Bradley had that exciting Ruslan fight and he boxed JMM to death, but in the meantime, Pac got KO'd and took damn near a year off, JUST to come back and fight Rios in China and hurt his PPV numbers even more than they've been hurting.


He "said" $10M, but shit, the first fight didn't sell well....for it to be a Pac fight. Notice, Arum barely raised a finger to promote that fight...that's when Pac was in limbo about a lot of stuff and really didn't fight like that anymore.

Shhhh....secret.gif...the Bradley fight was signed before the 3rd Marquez fight even took place, but what's even funnier, as we all know...Pac and JMM were doing an interview together shortly (a week or two) before he stepped in the ring with Mosley, so we knew where that was going. Floyd had just made a whopping $32M just a month before the Bradley fight, so Bob already knew that Manny was going to ask for more money after he beat a "slick black" undefeated fighter...having the world think that a Floyd fight was on the horizon for the end of the year.

On top of that, Manny wasn't as motivated to fight, so he fucked himself in that one, by fighting 30-45 seconds per round...that was all Manny. With that in mind, the "loss" and lack of promotion (which led to those not-so-great PPV numbers) was a viable reason for Bob to say, "Hey kid, there's not enough money out there to pay you (insert amount that Manny asked for), you just lost your last fight, and the numbers didn't so well".

Of course Manny doesn't ask many questions, so it would've stopped right there. Bob kept him honest all the way through that situation, though it appeared that he was trying to "see him through it" by bringing up Manny's marital problems and all. Hell, they even disagreed with where his next fight would take place, in the post-fight presser.

Moving on, I find it even funnier that the Rios fight was in serious talks before the Alvarado rematch even took place, and out of all people to call out after the first Alvarado fight, Rios called out Pac. I wouldn't look much into it from that standpoint, but the way Arum's fighters sound when they say some groundbreaking shit, sounds so rehearsed and "discussed"...as in Bob discussing it with them before the first bell of their current fight.

Rios was supposed to fight Manny in April '13, Marquez was supposed to Bradley, and that Alvarado was supposed to fight Vargas...that shit went ALL wrong...poor Vargas and poor Alvarado. Let's be real, Alvarado isn't marketable, at best, he's a decent co-feature on PPV card, but that's it. Having Alvarado in the mix and him "boxing" so well in the rematch, screwed everything up again...hence why Mike was thrown to the wolves in the Ruslan fight.

He lost BAD in that fight...no way in hell they could've made it controversial and gotten him back into the mix...because getting him OUT of the mix was the plan. Throw out Alvarado, wiggle Jessie Vargas back in the mix (which will happen this year), and brainwash another fighter into signing with TR (we ALL know who that'll end up being).

Vicious cycle my friend, but the sad thing is, people pay too much attention to the guys at the forefront (Pac, JMM, Bradley, Rios), when the back end guys (Alvarado, Ruslan, Vargas, etc) are there to create upsets, take the fall (Alvarado and Vargas), and ultimately get deleted if they ruin things. Remember that shit that Bradley pulled at the end of 2012 with not wanting to take that $2.5M for a Peterson rematch (when Lamont was a free agent)?

Peterson was supposed to be pulled into the mix to ultimately match up and build up Vargas (and Bob was gonna "talk away" all of Lamont's drug issues to the public...the same way he blew off the Magarito plaster issue), but Bradley fucked it up...hence why he almost got wiped away by Provodnikov last March...which again, fucked up a lot of other things.

Juan was being an asshole (not wanting to fight Manny again, and talking about retirement (read: give me an easy fight for big money since I knocked out your cash cow), so he gave him Bradley...a not-so-easy and less marketable fight, lol. Now...Juan cant come back and ask for that crazy money that he wanted (though he would've only got about $7M at best), because he lost a "close" decision (read: got his ass kicked) to Bradley. Hold up, wait..."close" and/or "controversial" means "you're still in the mix, but now you gotta take the money that I give you".

I just said too much...

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Bro, you are posting a lot, Mrs. Cshel must be out of town! Good for you and enjoy it.

Your post is on point. Just add, the problem with all this is, Manny! If this dude just takes his career in his own damn hands and demands the shit that he want then this conversation is null and void. Dude has said he want to rematch Bradley.... Freddie and the rest of the sheep are saying no, he already beat Bradley there is no need for a rematch, instead, give us Mayweather's last five opponents and we can beat the shit out of them and demand a Mayweather fight. Manny's lack of interest in his own career is amazing. He owes everyone money and he isn't even trying to market himself. How can this guy be a leader of a country when he shows such little interest in the career that made him a god in his country and beloved idol around the world? He wants to fight JMM, but JMM is saying fuck ya'll, I know already know the deal. My hope would be Pac finally speaks up for himself and tells his promoter and trainer to STFU and from here on out I will do the talking.

I think Bradley wants respect more than anything. the guy beat a Ruslan, Pac and now JMM and people still piss and shit when they hear his name. Sad
mrchitown
QUOTE (KOpower @ Jan 10 2014, 10:21 AM) *
Good fight and one that needs to happen. These are 2 of the best fighters in the loaded 140-147 pound divisions and the controversy surrounding the first fight is enough reason for me to see it the 2nd time.


2 best fighters or 2 of the best fighters?
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 10 2014, 09:55 AM) *
Not really, because it was "said" that he was guaranteed $10M in a rematch...that was before the controversial win even took place. Again, it was "said"...nothing really concrete. The part that kills me though, is Bradley expecting that much money, when there isn't $10M worth of shit that happened between him and Pac over the past two years.

Bradley had that exciting Ruslan fight and he boxed JMM to death, but in the meantime, Pac got KO'd and took damn near a year off, JUST to come back and fight Rios in China and hurt his PPV numbers even more than they've been hurting.


He "said" $10M, but shit, the first fight didn't sell well....for it to be a Pac fight. Notice, Arum barely raised a finger to promote that fight...that's when Pac was in limbo about a lot of stuff and really didn't fight like that anymore.

Shhhh....secret.gif...the Bradley fight was signed before the 3rd Marquez fight even took place, but what's even funnier, as we all know...Pac and JMM were doing an interview together shortly (a week or two) before he stepped in the ring with Mosley, so we knew where that was going. Floyd had just made a whopping $32M just a month before the Bradley fight, so Bob already knew that Manny was going to ask for more money after he beat a "slick black" undefeated fighter...having the world think that a Floyd fight was on the horizon for the end of the year.

On top of that, Manny wasn't as motivated to fight, so he fucked himself in that one, by fighting 30-45 seconds per round...that was all Manny. With that in mind, the "loss" and lack of promotion (which led to those not-so-great PPV numbers) was a viable reason for Bob to say, "Hey kid, there's not enough money out there to pay you (insert amount that Manny asked for), you just lost your last fight, and the numbers didn't so well".

Of course Manny doesn't ask many questions, so it would've stopped right there. Bob kept him honest all the way through that situation, though it appeared that he was trying to "see him through it" by bringing up Manny's marital problems and all. Hell, they even disagreed with where his next fight would take place, in the post-fight presser.

Moving on, I find it even funnier that the Rios fight was in serious talks before the Alvarado rematch even took place, and out of all people to call out after the first Alvarado fight, Rios called out Pac. I wouldn't look much into it from that standpoint, but the way Arum's fighters sound when they say some groundbreaking shit, sounds so rehearsed and "discussed"...as in Bob discussing it with them before the first bell of their current fight.

Rios was supposed to fight Manny in April '13, Marquez was supposed to Bradley, and that Alvarado was supposed to fight Vargas...that shit went ALL wrong...poor Vargas and poor Alvarado. Let's be real, Alvarado isn't marketable, at best, he's a decent co-feature on PPV card, but that's it. Having Alvarado in the mix and him "boxing" so well in the rematch, screwed everything up again...hence why Mike was thrown to the wolves in the Ruslan fight.

He lost BAD in that fight...no way in hell they could've made it controversial and gotten him back into the mix...because getting him OUT of the mix was the plan. Throw out Alvarado, wiggle Jessie Vargas back in the mix (which will happen this year), and brainwash another fighter into signing with TR (we ALL know who that'll end up being).

Vicious cycle my friend, but the sad thing is, people pay too much attention to the guys at the forefront (Pac, JMM, Bradley, Rios), when the back end guys (Alvarado, Ruslan, Vargas, etc) are there to create upsets, take the fall (Alvarado and Vargas), and ultimately get deleted if they ruin things. Remember that shit that Bradley pulled at the end of 2012 with not wanting to take that $2.5M for a Peterson rematch (when Lamont was a free agent)?

Peterson was supposed to be pulled into the mix to ultimately match up and build up Vargas (and Bob was gonna "talk away" all of Lamont's drug issues to the public...the same way he blew off the Magarito plaster issue), but Bradley fucked it up...hence why he almost got wiped away by Provodnikov last March...which again, fucked up a lot of other things.

Juan was being an asshole (not wanting to fight Manny again, and talking about retirement (read: give me an easy fight for big money since I knocked out your cash cow), so he gave him Bradley...a not-so-easy and less marketable fight, lol. Now...Juan cant come back and ask for that crazy money that he wanted (though he would've only got about $7M at best), because he lost a "close" decision (read: got his ass kicked) to Bradley. Hold up, wait..."close" and/or "controversial" means "you're still in the mix, but now you gotta take the money that I give you".

I just said too much...

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Damn, this is very plausible. Never looked at it that way

I'm wondering when they plan on announcing his next opponent. They need time to activate the sponsorships and put together the press tour, and of course the fighters need to train for the fight. Maybe Guerrero really is in the mix to land the fight. Either way whoever Pacquiao fights I don't see strong PPV numbers rolling in
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 10 2014, 12:15 PM) *
Bro, you are posting a lot, Mrs. Cshel must be out of town! Good for you and enjoy it.

Your post is on point. Just add, the problem with all this is, Manny! If this dude just takes his career in his own damn hands and demands the shit that he want then this conversation is null and void. Dude has said he want to rematch Bradley.... Freddie and the rest of the sheep are saying no, he already beat Bradley there is no need for a rematch, instead, give us Mayweather's last five opponents and we can beat the shit out of them and demand a Mayweather fight. Manny's lack of interest in his own career is amazing. He owes everyone money and he isn't even trying to market himself. How can this guy be a leader of a country when he shows such little interest in the career that made him a god in his country and beloved idol around the world? He wants to fight JMM, but JMM is saying fuck ya'll, I know already know the deal. My hope would be Pac finally speaks up for himself and tells his promoter and trainer to STFU and from here on out I will do the talking.

I think Bradley wants respect more than anything. the guy beat a Ruslan, Pac and now JMM and people still piss and shit when they hear his name. Sad

The old lady is chillin'...at her spot...I needed some "me time" before I have to end up body slamming her. You know how a woman is so "excited" about being with you and showing you off (because that's what they do), that they try to prioritize your schedule (read: Finding out what THEY feel is important in your schedule, and plotting to piss away everything else that's makes you happy and keeps your attention off of them).

I had enough of that, so I told her that I haven't been "getting paid" for moderating since I haven't online in a while...in her mind, this moderating stuff pays for our dates...so she's been "letting me work". On top of that, I haven't been doing shit at work, so here I am fellas! laugh.gif

It's a sad story, but at then end of the day, ALL of this stuff circles around Pac...who's fighting who, how much money they're making, venues, sponsorship, etc. I can't even say that he lacks interest in his career, it's more of the whole, "I'll let them (his team) handle it" If he REALLY knew how much money he could be keeping, then Arum would be in some shit right now.

As Professor mentioned a while ago (about Cotto), some guys just aren't business savvy, and aren't built to run their own career. Hell, Floyd learned the game, but he couldn't have done it without Haymon. At this point, this sounds sick, but follow me...Pac is actually safer at TR.

Why? If he goes to any outside company to handle his career, then he'd be taken advantage of, on an even bigger scale. Who DOESN'T wanna work for and do business with Pacquiao??? With that in mind, there are other snakes out there who can get even bigger people to slither into Manny's earnings and take from him and REALLY leave him hanging.

Being a person that EVERYONE wants to work with, comes with a price...you have to know your worth, amongst other things...the very thing that you walked away from to begin with. Imagine if Floyd left TR, went with Haymon, and ends up getting screwed twice as bad as he did with Arum. He'd HAVE TO KNOW what he was getting himself into, before he left.

That's like those women in abusive relationships, they know what they're dealing with is fucked up, but they're afraid to leave because of some false sense of security and history with the man. If they stay long enough, they're mentally shot forever. IF they leave, it wont be long before the next guy woos her, makes her think that he's better, "understands" what she went through, and PROMISE not to put his hands on her. THAT is conditional...it may be something about her that says "hit me", or if the guy just happens to get upset, he knows for a fact that he can beat her with no consequences...since he knows her history.

This is something that Pac has to seriously think about...that's if he's even thinking about it.
Cshel86
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 10 2014, 12:37 PM) *
Damn, this is very plausible. Never looked at it that way

I'm wondering when they plan on announcing his next opponent. They need time to activate the sponsorships and put together the press tour, and of course the fighters need to train for the fight. Maybe Guerrero really is in the mix to land the fight. Either way whoever Pacquiao fights I don't see strong PPV numbers rolling in

Sad part is, most (if not all) of that shit is true. When was the last time we saw Jessie Vargas? On the same card as Bradley/Provodnikov? Wasn't that his WW debut, or 2nd fight at WW, at best? It was a while ago, when the birdies were saying that Vargas was brought on the built up to a Pacquiao fight.

Arum wanted Rios to fight Pac in April '13, but we all know who ruined that (JMM). So Arum rolled with an immediate Rios/Alvarado rematch, leaving Vargas with no credible opponent, whom I believe was supposed to be Alvarado at that time (since he lost to Rios) on the undercard of Bradley/Ruslan....but money had to be made because Manny got floored by JMM. With that in mind, Arum took that late March date.

Bradley was supposed to get blitzed by Ruslan, but we saw how that dude wouldn't be counted out. The birdies said that Bradley had ALREADY had problems with his TR contract after only two fights (Casamayor and Pac), hence why he was already talking that "sitting out" shit. From what I remember, "managers and attorneys" got involved on Bradley's behalf, hence why that Peterson rematch never happened.

So, we know how Arum gets...when you're talking that "leaving TR" shit, he has something for ya...which in Bradley's case, was Provodnikov. Yes, Bradley was ALREADY planning an exit, mainly because he was "promised" that $10M rematch with Pac in Nov. '12, but none of that shit was on paper. Bradley was also "promised" a Pac fight if he agreed to leave Shaw, hence why he sat out of the Khan in July '11. Had it taken place before hand, then we would've gotten that fight, but dudes think Shaw is a fair promoter...nah, he tried that "here's the fight AND the extension". laugh.gif

Anyhow, since Bradley was "promised" that Pac fight and actually got it, he figured that Bob was gonna give him that rematch that he "promised" him, JUST like the first Pac fight that he promised...but oh, wait, that shit was on paper...unlike the "rematch", lol. Nice try Tim.

So yes, that Peterson/Bradley fight that was supposed to take place at the end of '12, was supposed to put Peterson in the game since he and Bradley had history from the first fight. Not to mention that the Judah/Peterson purse bid was a clusterfuck...I think the bid was like $50k...peanuts.

THAT was Bob's opportunity to snag up Lamont and again, "talk away" those drug transgressions, but Bradley was being such a fuckwad, and GBP had already gotten back to Lamont...possibly offering him a Khan rematch. Remember, the Peterson brothers were with TR when they're careers picked up, but they were black..so you know how that goes...they got dropped. I believe Lamont kept that in mind, but again, he was in a sticky situation and needed a meaningful fight and some public damage control that only Arum can do.

As for this upcoming Pac fight, YES, they need to hurry the hell up with the promotion and sponsorships...April is right around the corner. Now that I think about it, since Bob tried to stick to U.S. about these taxes, I wonder where he'll Pac's next fight. He tried to bluff NSAC, but they didn't budge, so he really did have to hold the fight outside of the U.S.
KOpower
QUOTE (mrchitown @ Jan 10 2014, 12:30 PM) *
2 best fighters or 2 of the best fighters?


2 of the best fighters in the 140 and 147 pound divisions. I would probably say they are the 2nd and 3rd best in 140/147 with Floyd obviously being #1.
KEVINKYLE
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Jan 6 2014, 11:56 AM) *
All reports are pointing to Pac vs. Bradley in April. I am not sure how I feel about this fight but I guess in terms of boxing it is a win win situation. If Bradley beats Pac, then we can scream for a Tim and May fight in September, this is the last fight on Bradley's contract so he could be free to fight May in September. However, if Pac wins, then there is hope for the people who still want to see May vs. Pac next year. I would like Bradley to win because, I honestly think he could give Mayweather fits in the ring. The guy always finds a way to win. So do ya'll like and why?

I'm all for it! Like you said, sense he always finds a way to win, he will definitely beat Pacqiuao and we will see Bradley vs Floyd anyway. However, they really don't want Bradley because they know Bradley is a high risk fight.
mrchitown
QUOTE (KOpower @ Jan 10 2014, 03:46 PM) *
2 of the best fighters in the 140 and 147 pound divisions. I would probably say they are the 2nd and 3rd best in 140/147 with Floyd obviously being #1.


I agree
mrchitown
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Jan 10 2014, 01:05 PM) *
Sad part is, most (if not all) of that shit is true. When was the last time we saw Jessie Vargas? On the same card as Bradley/Provodnikov? Wasn't that his WW debut, or 2nd fight at WW, at best? It was a while ago, when the birdies were saying that Vargas was brought on the built up to a Pacquiao fight.

Arum wanted Rios to fight Pac in April '13, but we all know who ruined that (JMM). So Arum rolled with an immediate Rios/Alvarado rematch, leaving Vargas with no credible opponent, whom I believe was supposed to be Alvarado at that time (since he lost to Rios) on the undercard of Bradley/Ruslan....but money had to be made because Manny got floored by JMM. With that in mind, Arum took that late March date.

Bradley was supposed to get blitzed by Ruslan, but we saw how that dude wouldn't be counted out. The birdies said that Bradley had ALREADY had problems with his TR contract after only two fights (Casamayor and Pac), hence why he was already talking that "sitting out" shit. From what I remember, "managers and attorneys" got involved on Bradley's behalf, hence why that Peterson rematch never happened.

So, we know how Arum gets...when you're talking that "leaving TR" shit, he has something for ya...which in Bradley's case, was Provodnikov. Yes, Bradley was ALREADY planning an exit, mainly because he was "promised" that $10M rematch with Pac in Nov. '12, but none of that shit was on paper. Bradley was also "promised" a Pac fight if he agreed to leave Shaw, hence why he sat out of the Khan in July '11. Had it taken place before hand, then we would've gotten that fight, but dudes think Shaw is a fair promoter...nah, he tried that "here's the fight AND the extension". laugh.gif

Anyhow, since Bradley was "promised" that Pac fight and actually got it, he figured that Bob was gonna give him that rematch that he "promised" him, JUST like the first Pac fight that he promised...but oh, wait, that shit was on paper...unlike the "rematch", lol. Nice try Tim.

So yes, that Peterson/Bradley fight that was supposed to take place at the end of '12, was supposed to put Peterson in the game since he and Bradley had history from the first fight. Not to mention that the Judah/Peterson purse bid was a clusterfuck...I think the bid was like $50k...peanuts.

THAT was Bob's opportunity to snag up Lamont and again, "talk away" those drug transgressions, but Bradley was being such a fuckwad, and GBP had already gotten back to Lamont...possibly offering him a Khan rematch. Remember, the Peterson brothers were with TR when they're careers picked up, but they were black..so you know how that goes...they got dropped. I believe Lamont kept that in mind, but again, he was in a sticky situation and needed a meaningful fight and some public damage control that only Arum can do.

As for this upcoming Pac fight, YES, they need to hurry the hell up with the promotion and sponsorships...April is right around the corner. Now that I think about it, since Bob tried to stick to U.S. about these taxes, I wonder where he'll Pac's next fight. He tried to bluff NSAC, but they didn't budge, so he really did have to hold the fight outside of the U.S.


Arum messed up when he took that fight to China, I think he knows that. It was a good idea but the timing wasn't right. Soon as that fight was over the BIR and the IRS rocked Manny's world. He's saying the fight will be at the MGM. If so watch the IRS dip in them pockets.

I forgot Lamont and Anthony were with TR, their careers picked up but the meaningful fights didn't come til afterwards. Lamont always talks about promoters being the devil and that he wanted to stay independent

Bradley will leave, in my opinion and Arum may not see it now but he will later. If he allows Bradley to walk then he'll be in trouble
Cshel86
Sigh...so the answer is clear (for those who haven't read)...Bradley has signed an extension...so we can forget about any fight outside of TR. Grab your kleenex and make sure your woman doesn't see you crying over this...its worth a tear or two. LOL

I'm about to merge these two threads by the way
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