QUOTE (truth @ Jan 23 2014, 08:20 AM)
168 would be to big but to fight at 154 especially a guy who comes in smaller than Canelo. Why is that a problem and i know Floyd walks around near his fighting weight, and Martinez is a small middle so it is make able fight and would bring in money but heres a question if anyone wanted to see the Canelo fight why not the Martinez fight
Listen to what you're saying, and see how it applies in bother scenarios.
You're saying that Floyd's the smaller fighter at 154, so that makes him a big WW but a small JMW, right? Okay, before I get started on Sergio...he's been fighting at MW since 2009...so let' stop with the whole "he's small MW" stuff. If you've been at a certain weight for a long period of time (in Sergio's case, nearly 5 years), then it's not the best idea to move down or even toy around with small lbs...whether it's 2 or 3.
Floyd walks around at whatever weight he wants us to believe he walks around at...we don't know this for sure, it's his word, not the honest to God truth. And if he walks around around near his fighting weight (which is 147), then why would he even bother with a 160 lb fight, when he doesn't even make 154 on the head.
How many times has Floyd fought at 154? 3 times...that's it. NOW, if he had been fighting at 154 for 3 years, then I'd entertain a MW fight. Sergio is as brittle as they come nowadays (health wise), so I wouldn't even encourage him to entertain a catchweight at this point.
If we're saying that Sergio's a small MW, then let's go as far as saying that Floyd is a small WW (which he really) is)...so let's tell Floyd to move down to 140 and fight somebody...probably wont hear that from anybody around here. Guys get so hooked on, "Oh Ortiz, Canelo, Cotto, and Oscar came in above 160 lbs and Floyd did fine in those fights". WRONG, rehydration weights and fighting weights are two different things.
Sergio probably walks around at close 180 lbs, so he'll be close to 170 lbs after he rehydrates. Floyd will rehydrate to what, 156 (at best), IF he weighs in somewhere close to the MW limit...which I highly doubt. So we're looking at a JMW fighting a LHW on fight night. Its bad enough that you aren't even fighting a guy in your division the day after you weigh in, but that much a size difference is ridiculous.
Some of yall really need to put on some gloves (regulation gloves), and get hit by a guy that outweighs you 20+ lbs. Hell, on the wrong day, if you get by a guy YOUR size or smaller, you'll be seeing the little birdies.
It's a problem because it makes absolutely no sense for him to be fighting at MW, let alone 154 for that matter. Real boxing fans will make sense of the current 140 and 147 situation, rather than dream and talk up a fight that makes absolutely no sense. Hell, let's demand Pacquiao to move up to 154 (which he hasn't truly done) and fight Demetrius Andrade, hell, or fight Cotto at 154.