QUOTE (Jovi @ Feb 2 2014, 03:29 PM)
I think its BECAUSE of people's dislike for Ortiz that Collazo is getting his shine... Like Froch with Bute... Like Maidana with Broner... Like Shane Mosely getting Mayweather to Wobble.... Like the Pacquiao, Marquez, and Bradley triangle.
If someone you don't know or care about KO's someone you dislike, all that negativity probably turns into positivity for the other person.
Collazo just came to the right place, at the right time, fought the right person and said the right things to get a bigger fight now.
As long as Thurman gets put in there with real competition and STILL performs as does, Ill always be excitied
Sorry, but "dislike" does nothing more than get in the way of facts. Fact is, Ortiz lost his last fights by TKO, and he had been out of the ring for 18 months...facts. Sorry again, but I'm not into the disliking somebody and relishing in the fact that some unknown person knocked them out...if that's the case, then I'd at least try my hand at it first, rather than waiting on somebody else to do it.
If anything, I don't believe that people dislike Ortiz, at best, they just don't know how to feel about him before he goes into a fight. Yeah yeah yeah, people call him a quitter and so on, but the fact is, they're still sitting there waiting to see what he does.
QUOTE (AZWildCat @ Feb 2 2014, 04:54 PM)
we knew ortiz was a quitter since the maidana fight and halfway redeemed himself in the berto fight(which later proved to not mean shit)
he got lucky and got the lotto ticket..and again folded
tried to bounce back against a smaller fighter that was game as all get out....and yet again folded
took a long break came back against a decent journeymen fighter and ...got folded
case n point
collazo aint do anything speacial ..but ortiz was yet again being set up for a bigger fight (piece of WBA belt) and by collazo winning by ko fresh in fans minds including a rocky type come back story he should at least be able to smell some pie. does he deserve floyd, **** no but mr thurman does seem to have a hard time getting top names and titles holders in the ring from 147 to 154. enter collazo ... at least throw his name in the mix for a top prospect..hes stayed afloat long enough to at least get that chance.
froch on the other hand ....bute had mixed reviews about him some people felt he was the next big thing others like you said padded career... but the froch fight was supposed to let us know what was going on..had bute have won the way froch did he would have been concidered a beast and ward was avoiding for a reason/running blah blah blah. froch is who he is a dangerous contender whose ego proceeds him.
First off...LMAO at your avi!!! Isn't that from Black Dynamite???
Anyway, you're right Collazo didn't do anything special, and yes, Ortiz was being set up to get back in the race. As far as I'm concerned, all of these guys at WW, are on the same path...as far as opponents are concerned.
More than likely, they put together a Thurman/Collazo fight, and have a Porter/Alexander rematch in March...who knows.