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Dolimite
Khan put his career on hold for 13 months thinking he would get the big pay day. Turns out he wasted 13 moths of everyone's time and his career because he wasn't chosen. Since Khan's career he has been telling anyone who would listen that he had what it takes to beat Mayweather, speed and awesome footwork (I am trying not to smirk). The Mayweather fight was in his damn palm and what happened? Fucking Marcos Maidana, the guy he beats, has his spot.

Broner was considered by many uneducated boxing fans and John Q public that he was the next Floyd Mayweather. Flashy, young and skilled. This guy was the brightest star for boxing's young generation. He had all the tools and persona to Mr. PPV. He had an okay showing with the Magic Man and he even put out a hit rap video (Cshel's favorite download) made a sex tape and even licked a strippers vagina. Broner was the guy that some people loved and others just hated. This bright star was on his way to be the man until he met El mutha fucking Chino. He lost and he took an ass kicking, but he fought back and he even hurt Marcos a few times. He asked for an immediate rematch! He wanted to to take back what was his, prove to the world that it was a fluke and he would test Chino's ass if they met again. Not so fast little brother, big Brother needs a respectable dancing partner and well you will have to wait to get your turn.

Broner is left out in the cold. He has many options to pick from but the Maidana rematch would put him right back on track. Now if Mayweather beats Maidana the rematch will lose its steam and well, even with a Broner win people will say "Mayweather softened him up." Should Broner feel betrayed by Mayweather for taking a fight he wanted or should he chalk it up as "business as usual?" If you were Broner how would you take being asked to step aside?

Fighthype, in your opinion who got the bigger "fuck you"?
BoxingEinstein

I'm gonna go with Khan because he lobbied and annoyed the media like crazy about the Mayweather fight. Hibernated, waited, and wasted is the words used for him. The guy could probably have had like 2 wins right now and would have deserved the fight in September.

Say those wins would have been say Thurman and Alexander would he have earned a fight with Floyd with those wins at welter. Probrably would have been IBF champ and WBA interim champ going in against Floyd.
HyyerBlaze
Money wise-Khan

Pride wise-Broner
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 01:43 PM) *
Khan put his career on hold for 13 months thinking he would get the big pay day. Turns out he wasted 13 moths of everyone's time and his career because he wasn't chosen. Since Khan's career he has been telling anyone who would listen that he had what it takes to beat Mayweather, speed and awesome footwork (I am trying not to smirk). The Mayweather fight was in his damn palm and what happened? Fucking Marcos Maidana, the guy he beats, has his spot.

Broner was considered by many uneducated boxing fans and John Q public that he was the next Floyd Mayweather. Flashy, young and skilled. This guy was the brightest star for boxing's young generation. He had all the tools and persona to Mr. PPV. He had an okay showing with the Magic Man and he even put out a hit rap video (Cshel's favorite download) made a sex tape and even licked a strippers vagina. Broner was the guy that some people loved and others just hated. This bright star was on his way to be the man until he met El mutha fucking Chino. He lost and he took an ass kicking, but he fought back and he even hurt Marcos a few times. He asked for an immediate rematch! He wanted to to take back what was his, prove to the world that it was a fluke and he would test Chino's ass if they met again. Not so fast little brother, big Brother needs a respectable dancing partner and well you will have to wait to get your turn.

Broner is left out in the cold. He has many options to pick from but the Maidana rematch would put him right back on track. Now if Mayweather beats Maidana the rematch will lose its steam and well, even with a Broner win people will say "Mayweather softened him up." Should Broner feel betrayed by Mayweather for taking a fight he wanted or should he chalk it up as "business as usual?" If you were Broner how would you take being asked to step aside?

Fighthype, in your opinion who got the bigger "fuck you"?

Since the announcement, this is your first Mayweather thread....I'm expecting about 5 more from you before May 3rd. laugh.gif

I like HyyerBlaze's post (below)...pretty much sums it up.

QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Feb 25 2014, 02:08 PM) *
Money wise-Khan

Pride wise-Broner

Great response!

Anyhow, let me throw a spin on this...mother may I?

Has anybody thought for one second, that Khan may have been trolling us this whole time? He may not even been 100% that he was gonna get the shot, but he sure as hell used this publicity and Mayweather's name to build his.

I mean a few short months ago, he was on 106th & Park, reaching out to the black audience (read: Mayweather fans), and he's been using Floyd's name since. If anything, Khan may not have totally lost after all.

If he at least fights on the same card, he'll be that much closer to the fight. Think about it, this is the same guy that the public believed was at the end of his career, so an impressive win in the next couple of months, may play into getting his career back on track.

As for Khan and Broner...neither of them truly lost. They both have time left in the sport, and are capable of making some decent paydays at that. After all, if Floyd happens to lose to Maidana, then it'll make Khan's victory over him (Maidana) that much more noteworthy, and it will at least take the edge off of Broner getting his ass kicked. Now...they should both cross their fingers for a Mayweather loss, if anything.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 25 2014, 12:30 PM) *
since the announcement, this is your first Mayweather thread....I'm expecting about 5 more from you before May 3rd. laugh.gif

I like HyyerBlaze's post (below)...pretty much sums it up.


Great response!

Anyhow, let me throw a spin on this...mother may I?

Has anybody thought for one second, that Khan may have been trolling us this whole time? He may not even been 100% that he was gonna get the shot, but he sure as hell used this publicity and Mayweather's name to build his.

I mean a few short months ago, he was on 106th & Park, reaching out to the black audience (read: Mayweather fans), and he's been using Floyd's name since. If anything, Khan may not have totally lost after all.

If he at least fights on the same card, he'll be that much closer to the fight. Think about it, this is the same guy that the public believed was at the end of his career, so an impressive win in the next couple of months, may play into getting his career back on track.

As for Khan and Broner...neither of them truly lost. They both have time left in the sport, and are capable of making some decent paydays at that. After all, if Floyd happens to lose to Maidana, then it'll make Khan's victory over him (Maidana) that much more noteworthy, and it will at least take the edge off of Broner getting his ass kicked. Now...they should both cross their fingers for a Mayweather loss, if anything.

I don't know dude, I am pretty amped for Cott/Martinez and Saul/Angulo. I do have all of April and May off so you never know. I know how ya'll feel about endless Mayweather threads, I get sick of them as well. Plus, this is more of a Khan and Broner thread, but I promise I will keep my love of all things Floyd in check lol.

Are you calling Amir Khan smart? Um... I don't know Cshel. All he had to do was to fight Devon and get a belt. This dude put his career on hold for a "maybe" fight. Who the fuck does that. Now I understand why Bradley stuck with TR because he already had a fight in play. So it makes sense to me now. Khan never had a clear okay. I think Khan is really pissed about this. Brain Campbell the asshole writer at ESPN is already shitting on this fight but I will say this, Marcos deserved it.

Amir and Broner would be a great fight.... So how was the circus?
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 02:58 PM) *
I don't know dude, I am pretty amped for Cott/Martinez and Saul/Angulo. I do have all of April and May off so you never know. I know how ya'll feel about endless Mayweather threads, I get sick of them as well. Plus, this is more of a Khan and Broner thread, but I promise I will keep my love of all things Floyd in check lol.

Are you calling Amir Khan smart? Um... I don't know Cshel. All he had to do was to fight Devon and get a belt. This dude put his career on hold for a "maybe" fight. Who the fuck does that. Now I understand why Bradley stuck with TR because he already had a fight in play. So it makes sense to me now. Khan never had a clear okay. I think Khan is really pissed about this. Brain Campbell the asshole writer at ESPN is already shitting on this fight but I will say this, Marcos deserved it.

Amir and Broner would be a great fight.... So how was the circus?

I think I'm still laughing at your endless mayweather threads from last year, lol.

I'd have to call Amir "smart" on this one...even if he didn't truly get what he wanted. He skipped over Devon, Devon lost to a guy whom Khan could give trouble....honestly. Porter is a rugged dude, a poor man's Shane's Mosley, and has 1/4 the grit that Bradley has. Anyhow, I believe Khan would keep the fight on the outside, and make Porter work to get inside, rather than bull rush in.

Alexander fought the wrong fight against Porter...honestly, he didn't seem to know what fight to fight. People can call me crazy, but I think Khan beats Porter. Honestly, I thought Khan would've beaten Bradley back in the day...the height and possibly the reach plus the movement would've frustrated Bradley.

Since we're talking about Bradley, I know he's gotta be laughing at Khan right now (again). First, because of his loss to Peterson, and second of all, his dumb decision to chase a "potential" fight with Mayweather...guess that's that's Bradley signed with TR again...for security. In Bradley's last 4 fights (including this upcoming rematch), he may have already made more than Khan has in the past few years.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 25 2014, 12:14 PM) *
I think I'm still laughing at your endless mayweather threads from last year, lol.

I'd have to call Amir "smart" on this one...even if he didn't truly get what he wanted. He skipped over Devon, Devon lost to a guy whom Khan could give trouble....honestly. Porter is a rugged dude, a poor man's Shane's Mosley, and has 1/4 the grit that Bradley has. Anyhow, I believe Khan would keep the fight on the outside, and make Porter work to get inside, rather than bull rush in.

Alexander fought the wrong fight against Porter...honestly, he didn't seem to know what fight to fight. People can call me crazy, but I think Khan beats Porter. Honestly, I thought Khan would've beaten Bradley back in the day...the height and possibly the reach plus the movement would've frustrated Bradley.

Since we're talking about Bradley, I know he's gotta be laughing at Khan right now (again). First, because of his loss to Peterson, and second of all, his dumb decision to chase a "potential" fight with Mayweather...guess that's that's Bradley signed with TR again...for security. In Bradley's last 4 fights (including this upcoming rematch), he may have already made more than Khan has in the past few years.

I grown since then!

So where does Khan go from here? He can't just fight any fighter without people shitting on him for his selection. Bradley maybe laughing his ass off, but for a guy that beat both Pac and Marquez, he has 0 face recognition with casual fans. Khan can at least be mobbed by fans. Bradley is in a good position. I just hope that he pressures Arum to give him stiff competition. If he beats Pac then where does he go? Rios?

Broner has to be a little heated, but at the same time he does sit in a great position. He can actually pick his opponent, Broner, whoever he fights, will be the A side of the fight. Broner will be the co feature.

http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-discusses-...ure-more--75025
HyyerBlaze
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 05:02 PM) *
I grown since then!

So where does Khan go from here? He can't just fight any fighter without people shitting on him for his selection. Bradley maybe laughing his ass off, but for a guy that beat both Pac and Marquez, he has 0 face recognition with casual fans. Khan can at least be mobbed by fans. Bradley is in a good position. I just hope that he pressures Arum to give him stiff competition. If he beats Pac then where does he go? Rios?

Broner has to be a little heated, but at the same time he does sit in a great position. He can actually pick his opponent, Broner, whoever he fights, will be the A side of the fight. Broner will be the co feature.

http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-discusses-...ure-more--75025


If Bradley beats Pacquiao I could see a rematch with the Russian,after of course he beats Rios brains in.

BigDDatHomey
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 01:43 PM) *
Fighthype, in your opinion who got the bigger "fuck you"?


I think Khan because it was probably the most he would ever make. Broner has time and probably shouldn't have been getting right back in the ring with Maidana until he fixed his issues anyway.

I wouldn't mind seeing Broner vs. Kahn on the under card though.
Jovi
Khan still isn't out the Mayweather running, Schaefer was mentioning that Khan would still be an interesting fight. I just think Maidana took the spotlight for the moment and its his time like those before; Canelo, Guerrero, Cotto, Ortiz, Mosely. Always came off one of their biggest wins.... Anytime a fight with Mayweather was mentioned, there was backlash so i think they gonna let that Marinate. Beating Porter (the guy who beat who Khan was supposed to fight) would add some value to him

I don't agree that Broner was ever the next boxing star or whatever, I won't argue, but i won't agree. They say even bad publicity is good, but all Broner ever had was bad publicity, there's much brighter future stars in boxing currently. The Maidana fight just made him look like more of a fool, like i said before, he's just an example of how not to do it. A bad What if scenario come to life. If he doesn't move down in weight for his next fight (which apparently he isn't, during the time off he's been seemingly putting ON more weight) then he's the next Berto. Yeah he may be getting paid, but he will never be Elite.

This is what makes a Khan vs Broner fight so interesting. Khan beats Broner in May. He gets a Mayweather fight in September. Broner beats Khan, he can get his Maidana rematch.
mgrover
the public for this fight. Am more interested in the undercard for May 3rd than the main event
checkleft
Khan. Broner never had a rematch clause. Khan should have stayed active and made a name for himself

I think this is a good fight, maidana has been in 1 boring fight that I've seen. Almost all of the rest have been foty candidates. This can be a good fight, better believe he isn't going let his hands go like Robert and canelo
mgrover
Also I have a feeling Khan will do something stupid like come back and fight Porter if Golden Boy wants to make that fight, now that fight would be fast god damn
The Original MrFactor
These two guys dont have to feel like losers. They should fight each other. Win/win all the way around.
mgrover
QUOTE (The Original MrFactor @ Feb 26 2014, 12:26 PM) *
These two guys dont have to feel like losers. They should fight each other. Win/win all the way around.


See Khan doesnt wanna stay at 140lb, and Broner needs to go back down, if they have this fight, what which ever weight the fights lose there, realistically Broner doesn't need to take two losses in a row, and Khan is on the path to "rebuild" his career/cash out, if hes cashing out, it wouldnt work well for Broner to lose to him
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 02:58 PM) *
Amir and Broner would be a great fight.... So how was the circus?

Totally read over this part, but man, the circus was great bro! Just to think about, I've never been to a circus...had to think long and hard about whether I've gone to one, but it's been nothing but fairs and carnivals.

I got a little tired of the "strong people" and the contortionists...it got a bit boring. The actual show and fan participation made it that much better. I really like how they trained those damn dogs...I mean they were jumping through hoops and riding scooters and shit...made me mad at my dogs when I got home.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 26 2014, 07:19 AM) *
Totally read over this part, but man, the circus was great bro! Just to think about, I've never been to a circus...had to think long and hard about whether I've gone to one, but it's been nothing but fairs and carnivals.

I got a little tired of the "strong people" and the contortionists...it got a bit boring. The actual show and fan participation made it that much better. I really like how they trained those damn dogs...I mean they were jumping through hoops and riding scooters and shit...made me mad at my dogs when I got home.

I heard Universal Soul Circus was good. Dogs that ride scooters? Wow.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 25 2014, 04:02 PM) *
I grown since then!

So where does Khan go from here? He can't just fight any fighter without people shitting on him for his selection. Bradley maybe laughing his ass off, but for a guy that beat both Pac and Marquez, he has 0 face recognition with casual fans. Khan can at least be mobbed by fans. Bradley is in a good position. I just hope that he pressures Arum to give him stiff competition. If he beats Pac then where does he go? Rios?

Broner has to be a little heated, but at the same time he does sit in a great position. He can actually pick his opponent, Broner, whoever he fights, will be the A side of the fight. Broner will be the co feature.

http://www.boxingscene.com/khan-discusses-...ure-more--75025

Yes you have grown...you've stopped calling Floyd "May" (which was a bit gay, by the way), and you're averaging 2 Floyd threads a month...you sir, have made it. Lol

Anyhow, Khan still has options, but I know he wanted that money...BAD...who wouldn't? The thing is, I don't think people really care who he fights, as long as it isn't a midget Molina, or somebody that nobody cares about. As most of you guys have said in this thread...Khan is hardly ever in a boring fight.

In a way, Broner isn't in the greatest position, now that I think about it. He pretty much has the "Berto syndrome" as well...he can no longer fight lesser opponents, now that he's been beaten. He has no choice but to step up and face either noteworthy opponents, or B-level guys with names. He's still going to be the A-side with whomever he fights, but he can't fight bums anymore.
Dolimite
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 26 2014, 06:44 AM) *
Yes you have grown...you've stopped calling Floyd "May" (which was a bit gay, by the way), and you're averaging 2 Floyd threads a month...you sir, have made it. Lol

Anyhow, Khan still has options, but I know he wanted that money...BAD...who wouldn't? The thing is, I don't think people really care who he fights, as long as it isn't a midget Molina, or somebody that nobody cares about. As most of you guys have said in this thread...Khan is hardly ever in a boring fight.

In a way, Broner isn't in the greatest position, now that I think about it. He pretty much has the "Berto syndrome" as well...he can no longer fight lesser opponents, now that he's been beaten. He has no choice but to step up and face either noteworthy opponents, or B-level guys with names. He's still going to be the A-side with whomever he fights, but he can't fight bums anymore.

drinks.gif

So Broner does not get the Canelo treatment? I think Angulo is a good boxer, but he has been in some wars and is shop worn, plus he only fights one way. Saul, can easily out box him. I think Broner should fight at 140 as everyone has been saying. His power does not carry to 147 and he is still growing as a fighter. Hey, he could fight Ortiz or Zab Judah! There you go. Broner vs. Zudah. I don't think Zab has much left in the tank, what do you think? If he does fight Zab it won't be a co-feature, Khan vs. Thurman would be.
Jovi
Broner will be the future Zab if he don't play his cards right.
Cshel86
QUOTE (Dolimite @ Feb 26 2014, 11:58 AM) *
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So Broner does not get the Canelo treatment? I think Angulo is a good boxer, but he has been in some wars and is shop worn, plus he only fights one way. Saul, can easily out box him. I think Broner should fight at 140 as everyone has been saying. His power does not carry to 147 and he is still growing as a fighter. Hey, he could fight Ortiz or Zab Judah! There you go. Broner vs. Zudah. I don't think Zab has much left in the tank, what do you think? If he does fight Zab it won't be a co-feature, Khan vs. Thurman would be.

No Broner doesn't get the Canelo treatment. When he starts clocking in 2.2M PPVs buys, then he can headline his own PPV after a loss. Lol

Some guys who fight one way, can still have success against the more talented fighter, especially if the more talented fighter fights the wrong fight (Angulo/Lara, Cotto/Margarito, Mayorga/Forrest, etc).

Broner does need to fight at 140, but I do believe his power does carry to WW. It may not be as respected as it was at lightweight, but a perfectly timed and accruate punch, will put anybody on their asses. He can still pull that off at WW (in the future), but he has to start throwing punches.

I think Paulie will have something to say about a Broner/Judah fight. Paulie may not even wanna fight Broner as bad as he wanted to before the Maidana loss, but he DID beat Zab. No way Paulie's gonna be quiet about Zab getting on the big stage again, after he lost twice, while he (Paulie) lost a close decision and ended the year with a victory over Zab.
DigitalBoom
Can't fault Khan not one bit..I don't know one person on planet earth who would be promised something by their boss and not think it's legit. He practically said I was confirmed by GBP that I would be the opponent..even went as far as to sign an agreement for the fight in early December..I think Richard S made a bad call making that kind of guarantee and then f'ing it up..they should've just announced him as the opponent and fought Maidana in the fall. Would be funny as hell if Khan got his hands on a title this year somehow and left GBP..cant say anyone would blame him now. Far as you can get from a Khan fight but i'm man enough to admit he got done dirty on this one.
mgrover
QUOTE (DigitalBoom @ Feb 26 2014, 11:19 PM) *
Can't fault Khan not one bit..I don't know one person on planet earth who would be promised something by their boss and not think it's legit. He practically said I was confirmed by GBP that I would be the opponent..even went as far as to sign an agreement for the fight in early December..I think Richard S made a bad call making that kind of guarantee and then f'ing it up..they should've just announced him as the opponent and fought Maidana in the fall. Would be funny as hell if Khan got his hands on a title this year somehow and left GBP..cant say anyone would blame him now. Far as you can get from a Khan fight but i'm man enough to admit he got done dirty on this one.


Thing is Khan is known to exaggerate the truth, I mean I feel bad for him cause Floyd said whoever won the poll, and he clearly won, thats why its bullshit.
Franchize
QUOTE (HyyerBlaze @ Feb 25 2014, 02:08 PM) *
Money wise-Khan

Pride wise-Broner


This. Allow me to add to this. Khan may have been damaged long term. Let's face it. Broner gets a Maidana rematch and dominates, or has a big time win, the loss loses some impact. Khan is one more reckless tweet from possibly fucking his money up long term. He assumed "if I keep being a pest, it will either force the fight or create the Pacquiao effect where everyone thinks Floyd is scared." Instead, it just made people annoyed by him. He could have easily fought Devon and fought Floyd in May. I actually would have leaned toward him winning that fight. Instead, he, like Guerrero, was feeling himself. Unlike Guerrero, Floyd didn't bite. Now he may have to take a BS fight just to stay busy. With that weak ass chin, he could very well end up in Ortiz territory, getting laid out by a bum.

wouldn't mind seeing that fight btw
Cshel86
QUOTE (mgrover @ Feb 26 2014, 07:18 PM) *
Thing is Khan is known to exaggerate the truth, I mean I feel bad for him cause Floyd said whoever won the poll, and he clearly won, thats why its bullshit.

The fact that you, Khan, or anybody in the media, even believed in that poll, is a bit gullible and embarrassing. Lol
mgrover
QUOTE (Cshel86 @ Feb 27 2014, 02:23 AM) *
The fact that you, Khan, or anybody in the media, even believed in that poll, is a bit gullible and embarrassing. Lol


See if it was quite a few opponents fair enough no point in believing it, but there both money makers, so really there was no choice, but a win win
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