"Honestly, I wasn't even worrying about the scorecards because I never trained for this fight to go to the scorecards. The plan was working. The plan was to get him in the 10th, the 11th, or by the 12th if it went that far. Yo, I knew I was going to get Kid, man. He was slow as shit. His punches wasn't landing. I was landing my right hand. I was getting my body shots in. The jab was landing hard. He was concerned; he was worried. I was getting him on the ropes. I knew, man, I knew that either the 10th or 11th round, I was going to knock him out. They saw it coming...A cut is a cut. So now, when fighters get cut, you gotta stop fights now? I thought that was part of the game, you know what I mean? That's retarded, man. The crazy thing is you're supposed to treat a fighter by his reputation. There's certain dudes that get cut and you know that fight's going to get stopped because they straight bitches, and there's certain dudes that get cut and they fight even harder and even better. I mean, I'm the type of dude, a cut don't bother me," stated middleweight contender Gabriel Rosado, who talked more about his fight with WBO middleweight champion Peter Quillin this past Saturday, his future plans, and much more. Check it out!
BT: What's up Gabe? Before I jump straight to the end, how do you think the fight with Quillin was going prior to the stoppage?
GR: The fight was going just like I trained for it in camp. I told my trainer, I said, "In the first part of the fight, I'ma feel him out." I told him I don't want to start off immediately putting pressure on him because I didn't want him to make a quick adjustment. I wanted to just kind of surprise him. I just wanted to box him in the first couple of rounds and then, by the time it was like the fourth round, just start applying crazy pressure, break him down, and then pretty much he'll be ready for a knockout by the 9th, 10th, 11th round. I knew he was going to break down and I knew I was going to get him. That's why when you see the 8th and the 9th rounds, I was talking shit and he was actually backing up and looking real scared in those rounds. I was relaxed. I was getting stronger as the fight went on and he was breaking down. If you watch that fight again, man, look at the 8th round. The 8th round, I was backing him up with a jab, and I was standing straight up; I was just being nice and relaxed. I was backing him up with a jab and the jab was set him up. That dude was so shook in that round. He blew his nose. I was poppin' him right in his nose with the jab and he blew his nose because it was irritating him. Yo, that dude was so scared. I felt it. I was looking at him and I was like, "Yo, this dude is so shook right now." And I felt it. I felt it, dawg. It was crazy, man.
BT: About midway through the fight, it looked like you were really starting to catch him a lot with your right hand.
GR: Yeah! That's the punch I was going to get him with because when I was backing him up with that jab, he was pulling out to my right and I was just going to catch him with an overhand right. I mean, when I got cut, it was crazy because it happened at the end of the 9th round, and when the 10th round started, I was the one putting pressure and backing him up. He never even landed a punch on the eye. He's on Twitter saying that he was aiming for the eye. Stop fucking lying, dawg. You couldn't even land because by that point, your punches were so slow that I was able to see everything that you was throwing, so you wasn't even able to hit me in my eye because I saw everything coming, you know what I mean?
BT: Were you surprised that the referee called a halt to the action at a time when it seemed like you were the one coming forward offensively?
GR: Yeah! It was bullshit, man. It was bullshit. I felt like they saved his ass, yo. I felt like he's the champion and they saved his ass. I felt like if it would've been Kid punishing me and beating me up in that round, they'd let that shit ride just to make him look good. It was just that thing of, yo, we gotta save this dude. The crazy thing is there was two doctors. There was a doctor in my corner and there was a doctor in Peter Quillin's corner. When the referee walked me to my corner so the doctor could look at it, the doctor in my corner gave me a look like he was about to stop it, so I told him, "Yo, I'm good. I can see." So when I told him that, he told the ref, "Alright, if he can see, then let it go. If he can't see, then you gotta stop it, but if he can see, let it go." When he said that, that's when the doctor in Peter Quillin's corner comes in the ring and comes running to me. Why is the doctor in Peter Quillin's corner coming to my corner when the doctor in my corner is saying I'm okay? I don't even understand that shit. I've never even seen that happen.
You could automatically see in his face that he was going to stop the fight. He was already nodding his head saying no before he could even look at my eye. A lot of people are saying it was a big cut or it was a bad cut, but it wasn't bleeding. If you think about it, when he cleaned my eye up, the blood wasn't dripping, the blood wasn't coming out; it was a cut that was dry. It wasn't bleeding. It just don't make no damn sense, you know what I'm sayin'. How you gonna stop a fight when the momentum was going my way and we're going into the championship rounds? That's so crazy, man. Everybody said I was breaking him down; everybody. Danny Garcia, when they interviewed him, he was like, "Yo, I had Rosado winning more rounds." Bernard said that whoever wins these last rounds, wins the fight when they interviewed him in the locker room. Every time I see the fight, by the fourth on, it was all me. The 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, all those rounds, I feel like that was all me. I was applying pressure, he was backing up. I was landing the better punches, the body punches, I was backing him up to the ropes, you know what I mean.
BT: Some people think it was a nasty cut, but it didn't look like it was bleeding into your eye or preventing you from being able to see. Was the cut bothering you at all prior to the stoppage?
GR: A couple of people was criticizing me for not having a cutman, but people don't understand that my trainer is a cutman. My trainer has been a cutman for years. My trainer has been training fighters since he was 15 years old; he's been a cutman since he was like 20. He's 39 years old, so my trainer has been a cutman for 19 years. Al Gavin, one of the best cutman, taught him how to work cuts and things like that, so Billy knows what he's doing. I told Billy, I said, "Yo Bill, you're already a cutman. I trust you more than anybody else, so I'd rather have you as a cutman." That's why I don't have a separate cutman. Nacho Beritstain, he's Marquez's cutman, so I'm like, yo, if Marquez do it, I'll do it. They didn't even give Billy the opportunity to work the cut. As soon as I came back to the corner, Billy, he worked the cut as quick as he could. They didn't even give a chance for the medicine to kick in before they just stopped the fight, so he didn't even get a chance to work the cut. As soon as Billy put that medicine on it, by the time the doctor came to look at the cut, it was dry. It was open, but it was dry; it wasn't bleeding. It wasn't even deep. It looks wide because it was a little swollen, so the skin opens up and make the cut look bigger than what it really is, but it was dry. Billy was pinching the shit out of that thing. We was good.
BT: Obviously you've had the cut taken care of since the fight. How bad did it end up being and is it going to take a while to heal?
GR: Yo, it's just like every other cut. I take the stitches off on Saturday. I'll get it checked by an eye doctor and make sure I gotta do what I gotta do for it to heal up; put some cream on it. It takes like about 2 months probably to start sparring. We in October, so probably like end of December or January I can start sparring. If there's a chance to fight in February or March, I'll be right there ready to fight in February and March. That's what dates we're looking at. A cut is a cut. So now, when fighters get cut, you gotta stop fights now? I thought that was part of the game, you know what I mean? That's retarded, man. The crazy thing is you're supposed to treat a fighter by his reputation. There's certain dudes that get cut and you know that fight's going to get stopped because they straight bitches, and there's certain dudes that get cut and they fight even harder and even better. I mean, I'm the type of dude, a cut don't bother me. If you see that I'm getting punished and abused...obviously the Triple G fight I had two cuts over the same eye, so that's different. I was really having trouble that time around, but if you see that I'm the aggressor and the fight's almost over, why would you stop the fight? That's part of the game. You're gonna get cut. it's crazy to me.
BT: If the referee did let the fight continue, it looks like the judges were going to do you dirty anyway assuming the fight did go the distance. Would you say you're more pissed off at the referee for stopping it or at the judges for not even having it a close fight coming down the stretch?
GR: I'm not really mad at the referee. Alright, the referee stopped the action at a bad time. It wasn't a good time for him to stop the action because Kid never really landed a shot on my eye; nothing ever happened for him to just go in and stop it, but the thing is, he did ask the doctors, "Can he go? Is he able to go?" He put it in the doctor's hands. There's other referees that would've...let's say Steve Smoger. Steve Smoger, he would never leave a fight in the hands of the doctor. Steve Smoger's the type of guy where he's gonna call the shots. He talked to one doctor who said, "No, he's good," and the he talked to another doctor who was like, "Nah, he can't fight." The ref should've told the second doctor, "Yo, I'm talking to this doc. What the fuck you doing coming running over here? Take your ass back over there. What you doing getting in and running across the ring? You're not even the doctor I went to, so why the hell you coming over here?" The ref should've sent him to his corner, yo. He wasn't the doctor who was asked.
Honestly, I wasn't even worrying about the scorecards because I never trained for this fight to go to the scorecards. The plan was working. The plan was to get him in the 10th, the 11th, or by the 12th if it went that far. Yo, I knew I was going to get Kid, man. He was slow as shit. His punches wasn't landing. I was landing my right hand. I was getting my body shots in. The jab was landing hard. He was concerned; he was worried. I was getting him on the ropes. I knew, man, I knew that either the 10th or 11th round, I was going to knock him out. They saw it coming. It's bullshit, you know what I'm sayin'. The fans was disappointed. I mean, everybody booed him. He was happy as shit when the fight got stopped. He was so happy, he did a backflip. He's trying to make excuses like, "Yeah, that cut was bad and I was aiming for it," but watch the replay. When I go up to him, I said, "Yo man, this fight should not have been stopped," and then he tells me, "You right. It shouldn't have been stopped." It's right on camera. It's right there. When I saw it at home, the camera caught us in that conversation and he said, "Yeah, they should not have stopped it."
BT: At the post-fight press conference, the two of you both said that you'd be willing to do a rematch, but since then, it seems like Quillin's tune has changed a bit. Do you think he really wants to do a rematch or do you think he'd rather take his win and keep it moving to the next person, which it sounds like might be Danny Jacobs?
GR: The thing is, Kid, man, what kind of champion is he. Like, real talk, what kind of champion is Kid, man. Everything is being politically correct. The dude has no voice; the dude has no say. In an interview after the fight in the ring, he's like, "You know, I'm not a matchmaker. I'm not a promoter. Blah, blah, blah." But then on the other hand, he says, "I'm willing to fight whoever. I'm willing to fight my own mother." Alright. Well all this controversy is going on and the majority of the people are saying, "Yo, you was getting your ass whooped. They saved your ass." If you was really a champion, you would say, "Yo, man, I want a rematch with Rosado. I want to set the record staright." Kid, he keeps talking, "I'm not a matchmaker. I'm not a promoter," but you got the power to say, "I want Rosado and that's that." A fight between me and him is a lot more intriguing than him fighting Danny Jacobs. Who cares about that fight?
Kid is so stuck on the plan that I guess his people want to do with him probably fighting [Danny] Jacobs. He's so stuck with that plan that he's being a puppet right now and he's playing the yes man. Danny Garcia, what I like about Danny is he got the same people, but he's the type of nigga to say, "No, give me him. I want him." When Danny fought Amir Khan, that wasn't nobody setting that up for him. Danny and his pop called Khan out, and then he knocked out. Danny didn't have to fight [Lucas] Matthysse, but they called Matthysse out. They said, "Alright, we want Matthysse." That's what separates the two different champions. Danny is a legit champ. Kid, what kind of champ is he? For real, for real, he could do it how Danny's doing it. Danny's like, "No, I want this dude," and they gave it to him. So right now, Kid could be like, "Yo, I want Rosado. I don't care if y'all talking this fight, that fight, whatever, but I want Rosado," and they would make that happen. It's crazy, man. Every true champion always does that. Sugar Ray Leonard, when he lost to Duran, he wanted another rematch with Duran and he beat Duran. Even Floyd did it when he fought Castillo. Gatti and Ward, they did it three times. Chico Corrales and Castillo; that's what true champions do. Now he's acting like there wasn't no controversy. Are you serious, dawg? That's crazy. That's what champs do, man. When people talking and they want to set the record straight, they say, "Nah, fuck this. Yo, let's make this happen." He's not doing that right now. You like a punk, yo. Like, you a straight punk, for real, for real.
I had respect for Kid because I knew him personally, but yo, I've gotten to know him on another level now and we're not built the same. Me and Kid not built the same, for real, for real. He a different dude. Me and him not built the same, yo. I thought Kid was better than that. It's crazy, man. It's like, if you a champ, people gonna have more respect for you if you fight me. He gonna lose mad credibility if he doesn't fight me because that's just how it works. You know, fans will turn on your ass quick as shit. You gotta stay loyal to the fans or they will turn on you, and real talk, that's what's happening. He's turning fans off. If he don't fight me in the rematch and he go another route, no matter how good he looks in that fight, everybody's gonna say, "You still got your ass whipped by Rosado. You need to clean that up." If he'd say, "Yo, I'ma give Rosado a rematch," at least people are going to respect him for it. Even if he was to lose, people would still respect him for doing it. When I lost to Triple G [Gennady Golovkin], people still respected me because I fought Triple G and I was man enough to fight Triple G when everybody was ducking him. I didn't lose credibility for that. He's losing credibility right now because it's like, "Dude, you talking like you won decisively." It's crazy, man.
Yo, Kid, for real, for real, man, he's not built like me, dawg. He shouldn't even be called "Kid Chocolate". He's doing the real "Kid Chocolate" [Eligio Montalvo] dirty. You not built like that, dawg. You not an old school fighter. He's really not. He looked scared ass shit. His eyes was open big as shit. He looked like the alien. Instead of Bernard being the alien, he should've been the alien.
BT: I know it's tough to take a loss like that, especially when you're willing and able, but you're just not given the chance to finish what you started. How do you move forward from this and where do you go from here?
GR: There's a couple people that are telling me, "Oh, why you crying Rosado? Stop bitching!" Yo, you'd be upset too if all this money that was on the table just gets taken away from you, you know what I'm sayin'? Everything that you worked hard for to become a champion is just taken from you. People have no idea what a fighter goes through when something like this happens. Nobody knows what I'm going through because you gotta go through this shit to really understand it. You go 2 months where all you're doing is training and thinking about a fight, and that's all you're doing every day, every day, every day. When something like this happens, you gotta wait another 4 or 5 or 6 months to get back in the ring and rejuvenate yourself. That shit ain't easy, dawg. I mean, it is what it is. We'll see how things play out and then we'll just go from there. I think there's other fights. I don't mind going to 54. I don't see why I don't fight at both weight classes. I might as well keep my options open wide. Golden Boy got all the 54's man, so I wouldn't mind fighting somebody. If the rematch don't happen, I think we can probably get maybe Angulo. Shit, I doubt they'll give me Canelo in March, but you never know. Or who knows, maybe I'll get the winner of Lara and Trout. We'll see how things play out.
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