"I believe there should be some type of association or a union, if you will, to represent the fighters in a very fair way for collective bargaining. I think that seeing the promoters coming together shows me that these fighters need to stick together because the circus can't go on without the clowns. The fights can't go on and the TV networks can't pay money to promoters if the fighters aren't fighting," stated well-known trainer Juanito Ibarra as he shared his thoughts on a union for fighters, Rampage Jackson, Javier Mora, Chris Arreola and much more. Check it out.

PC: You had Javier Mora fighting on the undercard of Klitschko-Arreola. Before we talk about his fight, what did you think of the Klitschko-Arreola fight?

JI: I'm very disappointed. The promoters did their job of hyping the fight correctly. It was great to see a Mexican American fighting for a world title. The reality of it, in the beginning, I just thought that Arreola was going to be outclassed and it shows that he was. It's not taking anything from Arreola; it's just his record and his experience. He didn't have enough of them rounds and the experience that a Klitschko has, so mentally, it's a big part of your game to feel like you belong there. It's not like, this is a dream come true and I hope I win this fight. I think the emotions weren't there for the young man in that fight and he feels like he let everyone down and that's the kind of pressure he's going to have on his shoulders. But he seems like the type of kid that is going to learn and the next time, he will feel like he belongs there.

PC: What style do you think it will take to defeat one of the Klitschkos?

JI: They're tough guys and plus they are two-handed fighters. They are very basic fighters, but Muhammad Ali, who is one of the greatest guys, if not the greatest of all time, threw a jab and a right hand and he beat the world up. I think Manny's teaching those guys the Kronk way. It's like when he got Lennox Lewis, he changed him and he changed him in a way that taught them how to be patient, use their jab, fight tall and wait for the right hand. That's what they're basically doing and in order to beat guys like that, you have to have someone with a hell of a chin, great shape and someone that doesn't stop moving. And that's what it's going to take. Those guys are very intelligent, technically smart and their patience makes up for any weakness they have. They're doing a hell of a job, they are holding the world titles and you can't give them nothing but credit.

PC: You said Javier is someone that you will be working with more on a regular basis. What do you feel is his upside?

JI: The upside of Javier is that he's had some really bad habits outside of the ring and inside from what I'm getting. He is a young man that I've come to know over the years and I love his heart. I had him for maybe 3 weeks for this last fight and he lost a close decision. I had an up-and-coming prospect that I've been working with, Rodrigo Garcia, who is a phenom in the welterweight division and possibly junior middleweight. So we've been together traveling and fighting a lot, so I didn't have much time with Javier. But my assistant worked with him diligently. He followed my regimen and I came in and taught him a couple of things and he was a hell of a listener. He came to me at 272 and he weighed in at 242 and like I said, some professional boxers and people in the industry told me he'd never looked that good. I think the biggest thing is that he was comfortable; he felt like he could be him and he was ready to be taught. That was one of the craziest things about this kid. Knowing how good of an amateur he was, he was #1 in Mexico at heavyweight and his record is 22-5, but just seeing the mistakes he was making in the ring, he had a sparring man's mentality. It's like he's been sparring the world and hasn't been taught anything. It was just crazy and I just kept telling him that. The odds were stacked against him in this fight and it was a short fight. He was fighting a Kronk Gym fighter against a guy that went to camp with the world champion. He either had to knock that guy out or really rough him up. That was our plan going in, but instead of walking the line, bobbing his head and keeping his elbows in and his hands high, he made some mistakes. I thought it was a pretty fair fight though. There was times where he took some shots and there were times that he gave them. I just watched it awhile ago and I still think Javier had at least a draw. I'm going to continue to work with him because not only is he a good spirited person, but he quit drinking alcohol and he wants to do good in his life. He's starting to believe he's here for a reason. I'm a spiritual man. I love Jesus and God and we're connecting really well and that's the kind of guys I want to teach.

PC: I know you had an opinion about all of the boxing promoters getting together recently for a meeting. You feel it's time the fighters do the same. Can you speak on that more?

JI: Absolutely. I think it was historical when I heard about the promoters coming together in New York, but it kind of put my antennas up, being a manager for so long in the fight game. I come from a union, the IOW Long Shore division. I'm retired now as of March after 25 years. Strength is in numbers and I think the promoters realize now that their dollars can't take them beyond the strength in numbers. So they've come together and that's what the fighters need to do. Use the Muhammad Ali Act and the 1996 Fighters Act or something like that that John McCain put together to help the fighters. But I believe there should be some type of association or a union, if you will, to represent the fighters in a very fair way for collective bargaining. I think that seeing the promoters coming together shows me that these fighters need to stick together because the circus can't go on without the clowns. The fights can't go on and the TV networks can't pay money to promoters if the fighters aren't fighting. And I tell you, it will be something I would love to organize. I've tried it with other people years ago, but it always fall short somewhere because nobody wants to stick their neck out. These fighters need to be represented. There needs to be a minimum wage, time vested for the rounds that they fight and have a small pension just as California has one. It's the only State that has a pension act, but this needs to be global.

These guys need a criteria to fall under to say that they are represented. It's just like the NFL and NBA. They have agents and managers, but there is a collective bargaining system. I seen Mike Tyson the other night and he was very good spirited, but when you see a guy that has made 400 to 500 million dollars and managed by the best manager in the fight game, Shelly Finkel, and to see that he doesn't have 500 million dollars anymore…why didn't somebody make him a lot of money and then show him the plan on how to keep his money? And that is why when I manage a guy, I sit down with them from day one and show them everything I'm trying to do with them because one day, if the fight thing don't work out for them, they can live off of the money they made and that way, they can go on and do something else. I have a system that is very productive and it has made guys millionaires just because they wanted to listen. It doesn't take a lot of money and it doesn't take a lot of people to do it. It just takes somebody with experience, like myself, teaching a student that I care about how to keep their dollars and put them on a budget instead of acting like a Rockstar seven days a week. Can a kid from the ghetto listen because he ain't never had anything? Well, I come from the ghetto, so I know what it is to have and not to have.

Look at that guy Steve who owned the biggest library in boxing and I believe they managed fighters. I don't know if they are still managing fighters, but they still make money off of those fights. They will make money off of those fights when these guys are in the grave. People gotta incorporate and own their own names. It takes a little bit of money and trust in good people. Not these big time lawyers saying, "I'm going to protect you the rest of your life and it costs this much money," because it really doesn't. The passion behind what you do for your kids should really mean something to you. You want to give to your students as much as you can. If I manage a fighter, I don't manage them because of money. I manage them for integrity and then you make money. I believe that the kid should own their own damn name; they were born with that name. I will teach these guys how to trademark their name because when they're 50 and their kid is 13 and they're showing their fight on ESPN, somebody had to buy the rights to show that fight, so somebody gotta pay you some money. This isn't a dream. It's something that's obtainable and reachable. It's right in front of our face and if it wasn't yesterday, it is today. I plan to organize something and do something about this.

PC: I have to ask you about your former star pupil Rampage Jackson's decision to do the A-Team movie as opposed to fighting in the UFC. What are your thoughts?

JI: My only thoughts are I'm going to pray for that young man. I'm going to pray for Rampage. I don't want to get rolling on that situation, so I will just leave it at that.

PC: Thanks for your time. You pointed out some very interesting things in the interview. Is there anything you want to say in closing?

JI: Keep watching boxing. Boxing is a lost art that has been around for hundreds of years. Keep your love in it and keep supporting the fighters and I will see you around the corner and God bless.