KELLY SWANSON: OK. Great. Everybody, please standby. At this time, we are going to be joined by Roger Mayweather and Leonard Ellerbe and please I'd like the other trainers stay on the line for just a quick minute. We're going to transition through because I haven't had a chance to see if you guys have been any more questions. But they have in the hold queue for a couple of minutes now. So I'm going to go ahead and introduce Roger Mayweather and Leonard Ellerbe, Floyd Mayweather's trainers at this time.
KELLY SWANSON: Another big hit for you in 24/7. I tell you, the trainers, I think, are making the show what it is. I don't know between you and Billy Graham I've heard a lot of great things.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: But I do know this. What (expletive) eating cereal got to do with (expletive) fighting? That don't got (expletive) to do with boxing. He's eating better. He's eating - that ain't got (expletive) to do with fighting. You can eat - you can drink beer all day and kill somebody's ass, kill win fight. It has nothing to do with (INAUDIBLE). So I don't care about his weight or he got to make this weight, he got to make that weight, what that got to do with fighting?
Floyd ain't coming from 130 pounds. He beat de la Hoya's ass at 154 pounds. So, obviously, it doesn't - what he's saying doesn't make sense. Skill wins fight. That's the only thing that do win fight, skill.
LEONARD ELLERBE: I think Roger said it - Roger covered it all. You know, when it comes down to it skill, it's always skill that's going to win the fight. Floyd's the better fighter. Floyd's the better conditioned fighter. And Floyd's the smarter fighter. So all of that, what he's talking about, him putting on all this additional weight, Ricky Hatton being strong, is a bunch of bullshit because at the end of the day, skill is what pay the bills.
FRANCES WALKER, BLACKATHLETE.COM : Thank you. Hello, everybody. Thanks for having me on the call. I have a question - I have two questions, actually for Mr. Graham, has Ricky Hatton ever fought anyone with the style and skill level similar to Mayweather during Hatton's days as an amateur?
BILLY GRAHAM: Yes, I mean Ricky's fought all kinds of styles of fighter, because he was a real tough amateur boxer. He was robbed in the world juniors. He won the Olympic games. .
But, you know, you're talking about has he fought anybody quite like Floyd? No, he's not fought quite like Floyd, because there is nobody like Floyd. I mean Floyd is the best at what he does. But he's definitely fought similar. People with fast hands. Boxers/movers. You know, he's fought people with a lot of variety, but no, there's nobody quite like Floyd. He's fought plenty of that style.
FRANCES WALKER: OK. And, the second question, and this will be my last question for you, Mr. Graham, what makes team Hatton so certain that Ricky Hatton can break Floyd Mayweather's defense, and make him fight a more offensive fight under pressure?
BILLY GRAHAM: I'm not saying he can make him fight a more defensive fight. Well yes he actually will make because he really fights. At some point in the fight, he will have to sit down and meet Ricky that's for sure. He won't be able to get on his toes and move the 12 rounds against Ricky Hatton.
What makes you think he's so comfortable he can beat Floyd is because I know Ricky Hatton better than anyone on the planet. I know what he's got. He's not just a pressure fighter. He's an awful lot more, he's blessed with all of these attributes that Floyd's blessed with like fantastic peripheral vision, great variety, fantastic balance and reflexes. Coupled with his amazing strength and ferocity I think that's going to be able to beat Floyd.
GARETH DAVIES: Just having heard what Leonard and Roger said, just then, you know, do you think they're bluffing when they say they're not all interested in the technical aspect of weight and all of those things, do you think they're just bluffing?
BILLY GRAHAM: No, I don't think they're bluffing, when they're talking about the weight training and that kind of stuff. No, I think that that's what they actually believe, to be honest with you, because an awful lot of trainers do believe that. But no, I can't really - I can't really say. I'm not so sure - I don't think they think Ricky Hatton is as basic as what they're saying. I think they're clever enough to see that Ricky Hatton is a lot more complicated than the typical pressure fighter.
GARETH DAVIES: Thank you very much.
GEORGE ROSENWASER: Hello, my question is actually for Roger First, I'm wondering if you saw 24/7 on Sunday?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Yes.
GEORGE ROSENWASER: What do you think about the body bag, that large punching bag that Billy Graham uses with Ricky Hatton, do you think that will happen in the fight?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I don't care anything about that (expletive), because, you know, what punching bags don't hit back. It don't win (expletive) fights. All of the rest of that (expletive) don't mean nothing. There ain't never been a fight over there, that the greatest fighters in the world are from where I'm from, period. He ain't nothing but another fighter. And like Ricky Hatton is very tough. He's very tough. He's going to come. He's going to come. And we're going to ask him for his ass, too. Give me that. You've got to worry about that. When he answer that door, somebody's going to answer that door with a baseball bat, beat him across his (expletive) head.
GEORGE ROSENWASER: Thank you, Roger.
EDDIE GOLDMAN: Thanks. A question for Roger, also, Billy didn't really see particularly concerned about Floyd's style and thinks that using the pressure techniques that Castillo particularly used in the first fight, that might be effective against Floyd, while at the same time saying Floyd is the best fighter in the world. Can you comment on that?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well I ain't got to say that, because when Floyd fought Castillo the first time, you see what happened the second time, right.
EDDIE GOLDMAN: Right.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: OK, then. What happened the second time.
EDDIE GOLDMAN: Right. Well I agree that Floyd won both fights. The second fight was very clear.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well go ahead, and he can put all of the pressure he wants. He can put all of the pressure he wants. That's why I'm saying he can do anything. You know, it ain't about - it ain't about can he outbox Floyd? Do he have more skill than Floyd? That's the only thing he can do is pressure Floyd. But other than that, he can't do shit else. Other than he ain't nothing but a high profile club fighter. And the only reason why he get this big reputation now is because you've got to remember this, I (INAUDIBLE) he beat (INAUDIBLE). And that fight was dead even. So I mean, and he got away with all of the (expletive) over there when he was from. He won't get away with all of that shit over here.
But besides that, as far as boxing, as far as pure skill about boxing, the part about the best fighter in the world, well the bottom line is this, Floyd never had plastic surgery, I don't believe. I bet that (expletive) has. What can I tell you? Talking about what are you going to do? He's going to bring his (expletive) face. He's going to break his face. We're going to bust that ass up too. It doesn't make no difference. What else are you going to do?
That's the only chance that he got. He got put that ass on the line. EDDIE GOLDMAN: Now, having said all of that, I'm assuming, also, on the other side of it, you're not underestimating, because you could say it's a club fighter and then it's easy to overlook somebody like that. And we know - I mean you've been in boxing for your whole life, you know what happens when you do that. How do you avoid not underestimating him.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: The bottom line is this. Floyd didn't get to where he's at. Floyd's got history to win six world championships any weight and be undefeated. Floyd's got the history to do it. Other guys have done it, but they all ready lost first. De La Hoya has done, he lost. Ali done it, he lost. But Floyd's the only guy in history to ever do it and never loss.
And I don't think - the reason he don't lose, because he doesn't take his opponent lightly because he knows what Ricky Hatton brings to the table. He knows what Ricky Hatton brings to the table. And, I mean when you bring it, I mean we've got to be ready for it. I mea he's a durable - he's a tough, durable fighter, but I want to tell him and his trainer, I'm sure they're on the line listening to this, (expletive) weight don't win a (expletive) fight, skill do. He can be 300 (expletive) pounds, what the (expletive) does that mean.
We ain't in no weight lifting contest. We're in a boxing match. So as long as we're in a boxing match, the best fighter is going to win. I'm sure he knows what the fuck that is.
EDDIE GOLDMAN: OK. Thanks. Good luck to everybody December 8.
RAYMOND RONDO: So, we've seen in some of Floyd's previous fights that, you know, he allows himself to get trapped along the ropes whether it's by choice or not, and get banged to the body. Now, obviously, we haven't really seen anybody that's been able to hurt him, or really be effective while doing it. Obviously, Hatton, that's kind of his bread and butter going to the body, are you guys at all concerned about that? I mean is Floyd looking to just make sure to not get trapped along the ropes as he usually does?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Floyd's going to do what he do. Floyd's going to do what he do anyway. It has nothing to do about all of the body punching (expletive). If you know anything about boxing, I mean, the greatest fighters in the world - the greatest heavyweight in the world is Ali, right. Keep him on the ropes, and hitting with body shots and all of that. At the end what did Joe Frasier get?
RAYMOND RONDO: Not a whole lot, at least not to the body.
ROGER MAYWEATHER : Joe Frasier hit the body - hit Ali to the body nine definitive times. So, Ali don't even throw body shots.
Now, Floyd is more skilled than Ali, so what's that case?
RAYMOND RONDO: That's true. Although, when he did fight Castillo the first time, although Mayweather did win, he was pretty effective going to the body.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Let me tell you something, you know, when he fought Castillo the first time, the fight should have never happened because certain things in fights should never happen but that's besides the point. The bottom line is this, when he asked Floyd this, they say, "You want to fight Castillo again?" What did he say, "Yes, I'll fight him again." And what did he do the second time he fought him? That's what the best fighter in the world do. He don't say I ain't going to fight him. He says, "I'm going to fight him again." And I'm going to show you why I'm going to whip his ass like I did the first time." That's because of certain things that happened in the fight prior to leading up to the fight that hindered him from - actually hindering him from using his right hand, and that's why.
GEORGE WILLIS: Hey, when you were at the press conference in New York Floyd was - actually seemed a little drained. He was talking about needing a vacation, and his schedule and this that and the other. And I was just wondering how is his mental state? Do you think he's maybe spreading himself too thin? He's been doing a lot of things, Dancing with the Stars, now he's training for a big fight. I mean how has he been able to cope with is schedule over these last four or five months?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well everything is working right according to schedule. Obviously, after the de la Hoya fight, we went on a world wide tour to several major cities, Floyd speaking with kids, you know, giving back to the community. You know, the de la Hoya fight allowed us to use that fight as a platform to cross over into the mainstream world, to go off and do a number of different things that no other fighter has been able to do because boxing isn't a mainstream sport. But, the attention and the focus that the de la Hoya-Mayweather brought to the casual fan, it was unbelievable.
So from that standpoint, there were a number of commitments that we made after the fight and it was quite a bit that we were doing. Then, I got him on the dancing with the stars show and the whole objective with that was to bring more eyes to the spot. And, I think we were very successful in doing that. And we have every indication that this fight is going to be very, very successful. It's a mega event. And with all of that being said, that I think that the timing of Floyd getting off the show, it was right on schedule because it allows us right at seven-and-a-half weeks to prepare and that's normally where we're right on track with our preparation for any fight.
So he's well rested. He's put in all of the work that he needs to put in. We had a great training camp thus far. We have tremendous sparring. We are working with two former world champions in Lovemore N'dou and Carlos Baldomir. So the preparation of this fight has been unbelievable. And we're just looking forward to go on December the eighth.
GEORGE WILLIS: So you're training with Baldomir?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Yes, Baldomir is one of the guys that we're working with. And like I said, any time that - as a - because where Floyd allows himself to do - Floyd challenges himself. And that's the key to this whole thing. You know, he don't want to just work with any sparring partners out there.
We - what me and Roger discussed is bringing in the best possible work to be able to push forward and to challenge him to be at his best. And obviously, with Ludmore and with Carlos being two former world champions, and both bring different things to the table. With Lovemore being more of a pressure fighter, and with Carlos being more of a durable guy. And both of them have four top level competition. You know, and these are the kinds of things that the great athletes and the great fighters need to challenge themselves, bringing in the best that's out there, so that they will be able to perform at their peak best, come, you know, that night.
GEORGE WILLIS: OK. Thank you. And, Roger, I have to ask you to explain something. Why do you think Floyd is more skilled than Ali?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: What you say?
GEORGE WILLIS: You said that Floyd was more skilled Ali.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Is more skilled than Ali, what the *&*^ do you mean, why do I say it?
GEORGE WILLIS: Do you believe Floyd is more skilled than Ali?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Why do I know? Because number one, have you ever seen Ali at the hand pads?
GEORGE WILLIS: Well yes, on tape.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Have you ever seen Ali hit the hand pads and miss?
GEORGE WILLIS: On tape.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I said Ali is a good heavyweight, but he ain't more skilled than Floyd. So, what do you mean, why do I say it, because I know something about boxing, obviously, you don't. He's more skilled than Ali. Hell yes, he more skilled than Ali. Ali is a great heavyweight.
GEORGE WILLIS: OK.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: That's why I responded back to you. You said, why do I think Floyd is more skilled than Ali, right.
GEORGE WILLIS: Right.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Floyd won six world championships, right.
GEORGE WILLIS: Right.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Five different weight classes, right.
GEORGE WILLIS: Right.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: OK. So out of all of those guys, he did that in just 10 years. I'm not - Ali is the greatest heavyweight. Nobody is ever going to deny Ali is the greatest heavyweight.
GEORGE WILLIS: OK.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: But Floyd is the most skilled, especially in this era and day, probably any area but Sugar Ray Robinson , Floyd Mayweather are the two most skilled fighters in the world of boxing period.
And when all of this is said and done, when Floyd is long gone and retired, they're going to say Floyd is the greatest fighter in the world, because you know what, he all ready done, what nobody's ever done. He won six world championships and stayed undefeated. Do you know anybody that ever did it?
GEORGE WILLIS: Floyd Mayweather.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Do you know anybody that ever won six world championships in five different weight classes and stay undefeated.
GEORGE WILLIS: Floyd Mayweather.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: OK, then. That's it. That's why I tell you about Ali and about Floyd. Ali is a great fighter, and nobody is denying Ali's ability to fight. Ali is a great heavyweight. But, guys when you come to skill, Sugar Ray Robinson and Floyd Mayweather is the most skilled fighters on the planet to this day.
JAMIE JACKSON : This is one for both of you, Roger first, you kind of answered it, but I was going to ask you Roger , I'm interested here, where do you put Floyd on the all time list?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: You say, where do you put Floyd on the all time list? Well, I'll tell you this, understand boxing. Who are they going to consider the greatest fighter of all time?
JAMIE JACKSON: Well I'm not an expert to say definitely
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I asked you a question. If you're asking me a question, I am asking you. Who do you consider the greatest fighter of all time?
JAMIE JACKSON: I maybe have a couple two or three.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, if you know anything about boxing there ain't no two or three greatest fighters. There is no such (expletive) thing.
You either say the guy is great, he's all right. I said, who do you consider the greatest fighter of all time, what's what I said?
JAMIE JACKSON: OK. Well my answer is, I'm not interested in what I think. I'm interested in what you think.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I ain't interested in what you think either because I'm asking you a question.
JAMIE JACKSON: OK.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well who?
JAMIE JACKSON: Ali.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: No, no, no. Ali says he's the greatest fighter of all time. Ali said that, right. But you don't really know nothing about boxing. Let me tell you something, because I'm going to explain something to you, one of the greatest - the greatest fighter that put them gloves on to this day, right now, to this day, is Sugar Ray Robinson. Sugar Ray Robinson had the longest wining record streak in the history of boxing. 127, one and one. So Ali never had it. Ali never had 70 fights. So here's a guy who had over 208 fights, so what does that tell you? He had 127 wins, one draw and one losses, right, one loss and one draw. Do you think that's better than Ali's record?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: No, no, no. Ali says he's the greatest fighter of all time. Ali said that, right. But you don't really know nothing about boxing. Let me tell you something, because I'm going to explain something to you, one of the greatest - the greatest fighter that put them gloves on to this day, right now, to this day, is Sugar Ray Robinson. Sugar Ray Robinson had the longest wining record streak in the history of boxing. 127, one and one. So Ali never had it. Ali never had 70 fights. So here's a guy who had over 208 fights, so what does that tell you? He had 127 wins, one draw and one losses, right, one loss and one draw. Do you think that's better than Ali's record?
OK. Listen, I want him to understand that Ray Robinson (ph) was 127, one and one, right. That record ain't never going to be broken. In his 30s, he won five middleweight championship, so who do you think the greatest fighter in the world is? And besides him, there was another fighter, his name was Henry Armstrong. Do you know anything about Henry Armstrong? Do you? OK.
Well Henry Armstrong was a featherweight. He won the featherweight title. He won the lightweight title. And he won the welter weight title. Remember this, and he (INAUDIBLE) with the middleweight title. This guy comes from 126 pounds. So - and he defended all of those titles that he won, he defended them 16 times in different weight divisions, something that ain't never been done in the history of boxing.
So what did you say about boxing? What did you say about somebody being great?
JAMIE JACKSON: OK. You want me to answer?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Yes, I want you to answer.
JAMIE JACKSON: OK. Well my answer to that, and this is reason why I asked the question was, is this what motivates Floyd? Is it the glory of being considered the greatest of all time? Is that why he gets in the ring?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well right now - well if Floyd stopped boxing today, if this Floyd stopped boxing to this date, nobody in history ever done what he's all ready done. You know that don't you? Right.
JAMIE JACKSON: Yes. So the answer is yes, it motivates him.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: He won 6 world championships and never lost. Right to this day, if he quit, he'll go down in history as the greatest fighter ever put on them (expletive) gloves.
JAMIE JACKSON: Is that what motivates him, Roger?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Say that again?
JAMIE JACKSON: Is that what has motivated him through his career?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: No. I don't think that's what motivates him. I mean the thing with Mayweather Floyd is that, I mean Floyd's been boxing, pretty much all of his life.
JAMIE JACKSON: Yes.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: So - and he believes what loves in boxing he believes that he's the most skilled fighter in the world. And he's going to believe that no other fighter can beat him. So, I mean he challenges skill. That's what fighters do. Fighters challenge their skill. If another fighter believes that he beat him, he got to put up or shut up.
JAMIE JACKSON: I mean, yes
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I mean do this day in the world of boxing, I don't care how many titles they won, but there ain't no fighter in history has won six world championships out of five different weight classes and still become champion to this date. There ain't no fighter in history. Not Ali. Not de la Hoya. Not Roberto Durand. Not Kane Hun. Not Sugar Ray Leonard. The only one who ever done it is my nephew, that's Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
So, if he quit boxing today, where would they consider him to be?
JAMIE JACKSON: So how much faster can he become, Roger?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I ain't going to do that. I asked you a question. I said if Floyd quit today, what would they consider Floyd to be?
JAMIE JACKSON: Well, listening to the argument you put, which is very convincing, the greatest fighter ever.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well he only got one title right and stay undefeated. So if you base it on his accomplishments of what he done from 130 to 154 and the time that he boxed, he will be the greatest fighter on the planet, period. He will be greater than Sugar Ray Robinson because he accomplished more than Sugar Ray Robinson. He didn't fight as much as Sugar Ray Robinson, but he accomplished more than Sugar Ray Robinson in a shorter period of time, in less than 10 years.
So nobody in history ever done it. So, that's besides the point about what he's going to do to Ricky Hatton's ass.
JAMIE JACKSON: So may I just ask you, Roger, then how much better can Floyd become?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: How much better can he become? Well, I mean you step up to the competition.
JAMIE JACKSON: Yes.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I mean you've got to step up when the competition steps up. The competition forces him to step up and then you're going to step up. You're only good as the opposition that you're fighting.
JAMIE JACKSON: Yes.
LEONARD ELLERBE: And this is Leonard. And really, as it stands out there is Floyd's operating on a whole other level all by himself. These other fighters out there aren't even challenging Floyd. And to be honest, Floyd hasn't even had to dig in his bag of tricks to even take it to a whole other level. Because, you know, with all due respect to all of the other fighters out there, you know, the fighters are basically, at he puts it, "A B C, 1 2, 3,"
You know, if Floyd really wanted to he could go on and win the middleweight title, if he really wanted to. So Floyd's operating at a level all by himself. He's competing by himself. That's why he challenges himself, because there's not really no other fighter out there that really pushes his buttons and really that challenges him.
JAMIE JACKSON: OK. So in that case, Leonard who else is there for him to fight? It sounds to me just maybe - if it's all about the challengers, the fighters you could fight, he's beaten every one, is there anyone left who could give him a challenge?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well really what that comes down is that, you know, in boxing now, as we all know this is a business. This is a business. And like I said, Floyd's done everything that he's needed to do in the sport. He's accomplished everything - what more can he accomplish?
JAMIE JACKSON: Yes.
LEONARD ELLERBE: I mean what more can he accomplish? He's all ready the best fighter in the world.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: He can fight against himself.
JAMIE JACKSON : In that case, then, I mean is he, you know, how much longer will he continue because, as you say, he seems to have done everything that anyone could do, really realistically?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well, Floyd will have to answer that. I mean, if this fight was Floyd's last fight, I support him wholeheartedly 100 percent because realistically, what more can he possibly accomplish? What more can he possibly accomplish?
These other guys out there, they always do the same thing they call Floyd's name, because all they're really trying to do is elevate themselves to Floyd's level. And by using Floyd's name, that's all that they're trying to do. It's all that they're trying- all of these other young fighters that are out there, they no where near accomplish what Floyd has done in a 10 or 11 year period. They haven't gone from weight class to weight class, and beat the best fighters that are out there, you know.
So, you know, really what it comes down to is that like I said, Floyd is competing with himself. He's challenging himself.
JAMIE JACKSON: OK. Thank you very much.
CHUCK JOHNSON: Let me ask you as far as the quality of boxing in this era, as opposed to Sugar Ray Robinson's era, and even the era you fought in, do you think the quality of boxing - I mean Floyd's - Floyd, of course, being in this era is as strong as the era of Sugar Ray Robinson, or even the era you fought in?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Let's say this. When you question if Floyd is the best - Floyd can fight in any era of boxing, any era, not just this era. He can fight in any era, because, you know, what when a guy can fight, fighting is the same 20 years ago as it was today.
Now, you've got - now you had more fighters back then, but still you have fighters. And you remember, Floyd don't select his opponent, HBO do. They're the ones decide who he's going to fight, who they want to see him fight. So Floyd ain't matchmaking himself. They make matches for him. So they've got to put him against the guy that they think that's the best. Or the guy, the most high profile fighter that he can fight. That's why he fought de la Hoya. That's why he fought Diego Corales. That's why Floyd fought Castillo. He's fought the best guy that they had to fight. Remember all of those guys are former world champions. All of those guys that he fought were former world champions.
So it ain't like he's fighting guys who can't fight. It's just - in the era of boxing, the era has changed. Is there greater fighters today than there was 20 years ago? I don't think so. I don't think so because 20 years ago you had Cameron Harris. Twenty years ago, you had Sugar Ray Leonard. Twenty years you had Aaron Price. You had a lot of great fighters.
I'm saying but that has nothing to do with the Floyd company. It has nothing to do with - look at the era of the date. Look at who the heavy weight champion is, do you know them.
CHUCK JOHNSON: Right. So let me ask you Roger so do you think that might have something to do with people if somebody doesn't want to five Floyd credit for being the all time greatest - the era that he's fighting
what I'm trying to say, the era he's fighting in, do you think that might have something to do with it?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: No. Because you know what this is like - you take Rocky Marciano, the only undefeated heavyweight champion, am I correct?
CHUCK JOHNSON: Right.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Rocky Marciano is a great fighter - ain't nobody talking about Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter, is he? Because people ain't no fool. People who know the history about Rocky Marciano. That's why the difference between Rocky Marciano - why do you say Al is the greatest, because Ali fought the best heavyweights in the world. That's why they called him the greatest heavyweight, right?
CHUCK JOHNSON: I agree with that.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: They call him the greatest lightweight in the world because he fought the best fighters. And he still beat the (INAUDIBLE) at the time, right. Didn't he whoop Sugar Ray Leonard and he called (INAUDIBLE) will be defended, one of the greatest fights in any era as well, because he beat the baddest middleweight at the time, am I correct?
CHUCK JOHNSON: So bottom line, you said, Floyd in any era, would have been the number one guy.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Floyd can compete. I'm not saying he would be as great as he was. I say but he can compete in any era of boxing period. It don't make - boxing hasn't been changed. It's that there were more fighters then, and then there were - remember this, there were great fighters professionally. You know one of the greatest fighters ever put them gloves on also? A guy come from lightweight, he won a junior middleweight, you know who that was?
CHUCK JOHNSON: Who was that?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I'm asking you, do you know who he was?
CHUCK JOHNSON: Who are you talking about? I can't read your mind. I'm with you, I'm asking questions.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: You ain't got to read my mind.
CHUCK JOHNSON: Well that's why am I asking questions, man. I'm trying to find out what you're thinking. I know what I think.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: OK. Well I understand. Well what guy do you think in the last - let's say the last 20 years was a great fighter, lightweight besides Roberto Durand?
CHUCK JOHNSON: Who are you talking about Pryor?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Pryor wasn't a lightweight. Pryor was junior welterweight.
CHUCK JOHNSON: OK. Who are you are talking about? That's what I'm saying man. We could save a lot of time, if you just answer my questions, because like I said, my answers don't mean nothing.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Whitaker he was one of the greatest fighters in the world, period. Whitaker from lightweight, went a title at 154 pounds. He did like Floyd did. Now, if they had fought in that same era, I don't know, I mean he was a great fighter. I'm just saying that, you have great fighters here today. It's just that Floyd surpassed those guys because he's the only guy who never lost (INAUDIBLE) because he keeps the same desire.
But my nephew always told me one time, he said, "I don't chase no championship belt." He said, "I'm chasing my legacy." He's fighting against himself. So that's what he's doing. He don't want to be known as Floyd Mayweather a great fighter. Floyd wants to be known as the greatest fighter that ever lived, that's what he wants to be known as. And if he retires to this date, regardless of what they say, he will be the greatest fighter that every put them gloves on. They can't deny him that because he's all ready shown what history has all ready told him.
CHUCK JOHNSON: Right. I appreciate that, Roger. Let me ask you Leonard, in terms of the year Floyd's had I mean, you know, going into the year to now, kind of describe, you know, the - where he is today as opposed to when this year started. It's been a remarkable year for him, hasn't it?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Yes, this has been Floyd's best year to date. It's been a remarkable year. It's been a banner year. The things that he's accomplished inside the ring and outside the ring, you know, they are historical. And these are the things that, like I said, with the great, great athletes have done, you know, over a period of time, and like I said, what Floyd has the opportunity to do, you know, at the end of this year, is that you - here it is you have a young man who comes from humble beginnings that has accomplished so much in his career, and he went on and won all titles in different weight classes, and he's become a very, very successful business man. And what a lot of the press doesn't really give Floyd credit for is that, what he's been able to do in such a short period of time, is that he's established the model on how fighters should conduct their business.
And I think that that plays a critical role into the young and upcoming fighters because what he's been able to do is to show the world that the fighters deserve the lion share of the money. And with that being said, because boxing - the boxing is structured right now, we have the worst contracts in all of sports. And, you know, the thing what Floyd is trying to educate the young fighters on is that they should be able to, you know, be in control of their business. Be able to understand structures of deals. Be able to understand how the revenue flows. And, you know, with that all being said, is he has the opportunity to become the second highest paid athlete in all of the sport this year, which is, like I said, which is a remarkable feat within itself.
And those are the kinds of things that Floyd doesn't really get credit for is that the things that he's doing are not only for himself, but for fighters down the road. You know he's all ready established his legacy. But from a business perspective, you know, he's establishing what the model is about for future fighters to come behind him.
CHUCK JOHNSON: All right, man, I appreciate that. Thanks.
RON LEWIS: Two questions, first to Leonard, obviously Floyd recently announced his retirement in May, but at the same time he's looking to develop Mayweather promotions. Is he possibly in the position that he wants to keep fighting to actually - because he's Mayweather Promotion's biggest asset as a boxer, at the moment.
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well, Floyd established Mayweather promotions, obviously for young up and coming fighters. You know, what Floyd decides to do beyond this fight, that's his decision. And like I said, earlier, I support him 100 percent, whatever that decision might be. But our focus is solely on Ricky Hatton, you know, 100 percent. We're not thinking about anything beyond December eighth.
And when it comes to Mayweather Promotions, we're just looking to, you know, follow the lead. That's why we're working with Golden Boy Promotions is that they have an outstanding company and we're just looking to model our company behind theirs, and to develop our company into one day a great company like theirs. And we're looking at developed young fighters along the way. And we don't - obviously, Floyd doesn't need to be - Floyd is obviously, the face of Mayweather promotions, but we're not looking for him to be an active fighter.
CARLOS GONZOLAZO, PRIMER HORA: Yes, this question is for Mr. Ellerbe. You mentioned earlier about Floyd's accomplishments and all of these young guys that are coming up using Floyd's name as, you know, a spring board for them, is one of those names Miguel Cotto?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well I don't - really to be honest, I'm being totally honest with you. We're not even thinking about Miguel Cotto or any other fighter that's out there. Our focus is solely Ricky Hatton. You know, here there's a guy, you know, like I said, Floyd has accomplished everything what he needs - he's accomplished everything that he's needed to do in the sport. These young and up and coming fighters that you're talking about they need Floyd. Floyd don't need them.
You know, so really it when it comes down to it, you know, when you think beyond fights in the ring, you have to say to yourself from a business perspective, what is it that these fighters are really bringing to the table?
GARETH DAVIES: Roger, I think you're a mentally entertaining and knowledgeable man in boxing. Can I just ask you to stay on the theme of skills? Who's the most skillful out of Lloyd Honeygun and Donald Curry?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Who's the most skilled, Lloyd Honeygun and Don Curry? Well it's obviously, Don Curry. I mean he got he - that has nothing to do - what you asking me
GARETH DAVIES: What I'm saying is
ROGER MAYWEATHER: What you're trying to ask me is, "Well who's the most skilled?" Donald Curry ain't no (*&*) Floyd Mayweather, that's all to it. Floyd is the best in the (expletive) world. He ain't the second best. He ain't the third best. He is the (expletive) best, period.
GARETH DAVIES: But what I'm saying is just because boxers aren't the most skilled it doesn't necessarily mean they're completely written off.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: First off, you don't know (*&%#) about boxing anyway. So you asking me these questions, you ask the question, you want to ask - or you want to answer it yourself.
Remember this, there's a whole bunch of guys who got skill, who got skill and get beat by a guy with a lesser skill. I never told you that. I never told you a guy couldn't be beat because he had lesser skills.
One of the greatest fighters in the world, Sugar Ray Robinson period. Now, Sugar Ray Robinson got beat my Jacob Lamada. (INAUDIBLE) outweighed him about 40-50 pounds, but still the bottom line is he beat him. But Ray Robinson (ph) whooped his ass five times after that.
Ain't nobody saying a guy can't lose because he had tremendous skill, ain't nobody said that. Now, if you're talking about - if you're asking me about Ricky Hatton and you're asking me about my nephew, then you actually ask. You ain't going to ask me about Ray Robinson. If you're asking about Ray Robinson and Jacob Lamada , well Ray Robinson whooped his ass five times. The fought six times. So that means, if you want to ask me does skill pay the bill? Hell yes? If Floyd would fight him five times, he's probably whoop his ass five times.
GARETH DAVIES: So in the event that Ricky did beat Floyd, he would presumably want a rematch, then.
LEONARD ELLERBE: Well let me - this is Leonard, let me clear it up. Ain't no way in hell Ricky Hatton is going to beat Floyd, so we can end that question right here.
GARETH DAVIES: If Floyd was fighting in the same period, would he have fought them and how would he have stood with him, do you think?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well, I'll put it this way. He would have probably more with Tommy Hearns because of the high reach. But Floyd can - like I said, Floyd can fight in any era of boxing, in any era. I'm talking about in era of boxing. I don't give a fuck if it's the '20s, the '30s, the '40s, the '50s, the '60s, the '70s, the '80s, the '90s and fucking 2000 if he keep in fighting maybe 3000. But anyway, we all ready know he can compete in era of boxing. When you are a great fighter, a great fighter can compete in any era, do you think Ali can compete in any era?
GARETH DAVIES: I do, indeed, yes.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Do you think Ali can beat Jack Johnson?
GARETH DAVIES: I think he probably could have, yes.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: OK, then. So certain fighters can transcend in era of boxing. So he just wanted to do - Floyd is one of those guys that can transcend from different areas of boxing. Durand did it. Ali did. Ali started in the '60s. Ali's last fight was in the '80s, right?
FRANCES WALKER: All right, I got the last question. Thanks guys for taking my question. I actually have two questions but they're short and sweet, I'll be quick. Mr. Mayweather, Ricky Hatton had a tougher than expected battle against an old injured Kostya Tsyzu. He was seriously hurt and he struggled against Luis Collazo and in his last bout he demolished the fated Jose Luis Castillo. Is Ricky Hatton over rated?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: I ain't going to say he's overrated, but he ain't ready where Floyd is going to be. Floyd ain't going to make his legacy by whooping Ricky Hatton next. Ricky Hatton will make a legacy if ever whoop Floyd. Floyd is all ready considered the best fighter in the world, you can't go no (expletive) higher than that, can you?
So the bottom line is this, Floyd will want to seal his legacy - Floyd don't want to see a legacy and saying he wasn't great. Floyd don't want to see a legacy to say that he was great because he whooped Ricky Hatton's ass. That's isn't what he wants to fill his legacy with. Floyd want to be known and to this day - Floyd - if Floyd quit today, if he quite today in boxing Floyd will be known as the greatest fighter ever that put them (expletive) gloves on. He will be known as the greatest fighter ever because ain't no guy in history ever won six world championships in five different weight classes and still remain champion - and still remain champion ain't nobody ever did it and retire undefeated. Nobody ever done it.
So, if he quit today, he's be known as the greatest fighter ever. But he fights because that's what he loves you.
FRANCES WALKER: One last question, and this is it, seriously this is it. Styles make fights. There's a lot of talk about how Ricky Hatton has the style to make Floyd Mayweather fight. Do you see Mayweather vs. Hatton to be the equivalent to a more competitive Mayweather vs Gatti fight?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: You see Ali and Joe Frasier?
FRANCES WALKER: Yes.
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Ali whooped Joe Frasier's ass. You know something about boxing, don't you? I've been talking about Ali with Joe Frasier. Obviously, you don't know the answer.
FRANCES WALKER: Thank you.
RAUL SANDS, MULTI FIGHT : Hello, Just one question for all of the readers in Latin America, a short question, it's about Carlos Valdimir . We know Carlos is just a quiet man, you know, very simple man, how's he doing now, you know, like the relationship with Floyd, training with Floyd and your training camp is so famous for, you know, a lot of music, a lot of laughing, so how's he doing over there?
LEONARD ELLERBE: Carlos is working great with Floyd. He's like, I said, he's an outstanding fighter. You know, he's had a lot of - he's had a tough role in the sport. And he's had some success. Obviously, a lot of success, you know, towards the end of his career and that's really what it's all about. We gave Carlos and opportunity to put himself in the great position, you know, with him fighting Floyd last November. And like I said, he brings certain - he brings something different to the table with us bringing him to work with Floyd. And like I say, he's a very durable fighter. And he's really outside of boxing, he's a really, really good guy. And Floyd and myself and Roger have a tremendous amount of respect for him and what he's been able to accomplish in his career, because one what you have to remember, he's not the most skilled fighter that's out there, but he brings a certain toughness, and he - like I said, he's a very good fighter.
RAUL SANDS: OK. And Mr. Mayweather, do you have something to say?
ROGER MAYWEATHER: Well, I think that being Floyd all ready fought Valdimir any time you fought a guy, generally a guy - you fought a guy, you generally don't want to spar with the guy. But he brought him here for the reason that, that experience. He has more experience fighting than Ricky Hatton does.